# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1451
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29005 "2019-01-08T00:53:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > This is interesting…there’s not a lot of precedent for Trump talking to the nation. Generally he only talks to his fans. This is what Chuck Grassley had to say about that: “@realDonaldTrump when u give ur tv speech Tuesday night deliver it as if u were conversing with Iowans not New Yorkers”. First, what is he, 12? Does he always tweet like that? Second, someone apparently made him delete the tweet cause he’s a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29006 "2019-01-08T01:11:46Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is what Chuck Grassley had to say about that: > > “@realDonaldTrump when u give ur tv speech Tuesday night deliver it as if u were conversing with Iowans not New Yorkers”. > > First, what is he, 12? Does he always tweet like that? Second, someone apparently made him delete the tweet cause he’s a fucking idiot. The man is 85 years old and has been an Iowa Senator since 1981. He will be up for re-election in 2022. Surely he will retire before he runs again? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29007 "2019-01-08T01:17:00Z")
I’ve heard speculation that he will use tomorrow’s speech to declare a “National Emergency” with respect to the southern border. What legal stuff does such a declaration provide to the bastard? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29008 "2019-01-08T01:24:54Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The man is 85 years old and has been an Iowa Senator since 1981. He will be up for re-election in 2022. Surely he will retire before he runs again? Maybe his 12 year old great granddaughter types his tweets for him. “R u sure this 1 is ok w/ u ggpaw?” 😃 You would think he would be embarrassed enough to retire (oh, wait, he’s a Republican). I remember some hearing where he didn’t speak until an aide whispered in his ear and then he said something like “I have nothing to say.” Can’t even come up with that by yourself, Chuck? ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29009 "2019-01-08T01:27:30Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’ve heard speculation that he will use tomorrow’s speech to declare a “National Emergency” with respect to the southern border. What legal stuff does such a declaration provide to the bastard? And as he’s done so _ **SO** _ many times in the past, he will provide no justification whatsoever for such a declaration. He really does think he just has to speak and his word is law, doesn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29010 "2019-01-08T01:31:08Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’ve heard speculation that he will use tomorrow’s speech to declare a “National Emergency” with respect to the southern border. What legal stuff does such a declaration provide to the bastard? I would imagine this will allow him to use “the military version of imminent domain”, thus allowing him to achieve the long-held conservative dream of using military force to seize private property for public projects. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29011 "2019-01-08T01:39:47Z")
Maybe he’ll announce his resignation, then head down to the border to apply for asylum because he fears for his safety. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29012 "2019-01-08T02:24:06Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’ve heard speculation that he will use tomorrow’s speech to declare a “National Emergency” with respect to the southern border. What legal stuff does such a declaration provide to the bastard? And he’ll blame Pelosi, Schumer, and every other Democrat for this (and Obama and Hillary because they left this mess for him to fix). Also, 100% of federal workers support him and the shutdown and not getting paid. He’ll say how the American people all what this, except the unpatriotic Democrats who don’t support him and want open borders and crime and drugs and human trafficking–but they don’t count because they’re not True Americans. He might even mention how bigly he won over Hillary in the election, because it was all those illegals who crossed the border that cost him the popular vote. I wonder how much of that grudge is driving this in his dementia-onset-affected brain? > [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Maybe he’ll announce his resignation, then head down to the border to apply for asylum because he fears for his safety. That would be the opposite of a National Emergency. Except we get Pence. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29013 "2019-01-08T02:53:36Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > With the shut down, he can’t get the money for AF1 or the extra Secret Service for him to go do a bunch of rallies to bask in the glow of his racist followers … so he’s going to do this instead? Wonderful. All the networks should tell him to go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29014 "2019-01-08T02:55:16Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The Republican party is just sitting there, begging to be branded American Al Qaida, rounded up by the military, and tried for treason. Fine with me. Maybe we can bring back the gallows. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29015 "2019-01-08T02:56:21Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’ve heard about this, but have only now actually watched the video. Chris Wallace from Fox, FOX “news” I say, isn’t having any of Sarah Sanders’ steaming fucking bullshit. > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/07/what-is-point-sarah-sanders/?utm\_term=.4d0e3ec782c9](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/07/what-is-point-sarah-sanders/?utm_term=.4d0e3ec782c9) Good for him!!! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29016 "2019-01-08T02:57:50Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > And as he’s done so _ **SO** _ many times in the past, he will provide no justification whatsoever for such a declaration. He really does think he just has to speak and his word is law, doesn’t he? That’s why he’s in love with executive orders. He really does believe that government works the way it did for the Pharaoh in _The Ten Commandments_ (“So shall it be written; so shall it be done.”) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29017 "2019-01-08T02:58:43Z")
Maybe he’s finally going to produce that birth certificate we’ve heard so much about. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29018 "2019-01-08T03:01:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s why he’s in love with executive orders. He really does believe that government works the way it did for the Pharaoh in _The Ten Commandments_ (“So shall it be written; so shall it be done.”) Pharaoh? I thought that was a thing RuPaul said on _Drag Race_. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29019 "2019-01-08T03:10:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s why he’s in love with executive orders. … Just not Obama’s. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29020 "2019-01-08T04:28:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > AFGE (their union) had a national “town hall” telecom and said they ARE filing lawsuits. [They actually filed them at the very end of 2018](https://www.fedsmith.com/2018/12/31/afge-sues-government-shutdown/). The 9 page court filing is at the link. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29021 "2019-01-08T13:01:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \*\*Trump Wants to Deliver Prime Time Address on Government Shutdown and Will Visit the Border \*\* > [https://nyti.ms/2H1XJ6e](https://nyti.ms/2H1XJ6e) > “Sorry, Mr. President. No can do.” Trump thinking of a Brick Wall: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LjFtiFS4uc) ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29022 "2019-01-08T15:48:50Z")
> [@Lacunae\_Matata](#): > > I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t understand quantum mechanics, but this sounds like Schroendinger’s Government: the shutdown exists because of a national emergency, and the emergency is due to the shutdown? > > My head hurts. Not Schrödinger. The other umlaut guy. **Möbius.** ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29023 "2019-01-08T16:36:00Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is what Chuck Grassley had to say about that: > > “@realDonaldTrump when u give ur tv speech Tuesday night deliver it as if u were conversing with Iowans not New Yorkers”. > > First, what is he, 12? Does he always tweet like that? Second, someone apparently made him delete the tweet cause he’s a fucking idiot. Nope. Still there: > And, yes, he does always tweet like that. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29024 "2019-01-08T17:20:09Z")
So what do you think the odds are that Trump declares a National Emergency and closes the border tonight, saying he won’t reopen until he gets his money for the wall? I know that won’t fly legally, but will throw a new wrench into the works for a few days while the adults try to sort out his mess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1450) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1452)