# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29105 "2019-01-09T13:51:42Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> “This was the night that Mister Trump finally became Presidential!”
> 
> — at least a half dozen TV pundits, probably

Or Lindsay Graham.  
[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/graham-lauds-trump-speech-most-presidential-ive-seen](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/graham-lauds-trump-speech-most-presidential-ive-seen)

Seriously, what is up with Lindsay Graham lately? When John McCain was still alive, those two were inseparable. And given the way Trump treated McCain, you’d think Graham would harbor some ill feelings towards Trump. But lately he seems to be winning the “which Republican can shove their noses the furthest up Trump’s ass” contest.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29106 "2019-01-09T14:31:25Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What was he trying to achieve by the speech? How about [fundraising](https://www.vox.com/2019/1/8/18174142/trump-border-crisis-fundraising-speech)?
> 
> He’s brought televangelism tactics to the White House.

Brian Williams on MSNBC pointed out that the fine print on the fundraising indicates that there is no special Border Fund. Any contribution go to his re-election campaign.

Sleazebag douche criminal huckster.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29107 "2019-01-09T14:43:00Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Maybe someone was fantasizing about the blue screen of death.
> 
> Did he stretch out his hand to the camera and ask viewers to stretch out their own hands and touch the TV screen so as to receive the healing goo?
> 
> Thanks to those who took one for the team and watched. What was the Dem rebuttal like? (What color did Nancy Pelosi wear?)

[https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/0c49865dbc860a787416c3349a3044aa.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/0c49865dbc860a787416c3349a3044aa.jpg)

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29108 "2019-01-09T15:19:38Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Or Lindsay Graham.  
> [Graham Lauds Trump Speech: ‘The Most Presidential I’ve Seen’ Him - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/graham-lauds-trump-speech-most-presidential-ive-seen)
> 
> Seriously, what is up with Lindsay Graham lately? When John McCain was still alive, those two were inseparable. And given the way Trump treated McCain, you’d think Graham would harbor some ill feelings towards Trump. But lately he seems to be winning the “which Republican can shove their noses the furthest up Trump’s ass” contest.

Trump-Graham 2020

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29109 "2019-01-09T15:35:06Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Brian Williams on MSNBC pointed out that the fine print on the fundraising indicates that there is no special Border Fund. Any contribution go to his re-election campaign.
> 
> Sleazebag douche criminal huckster.

Lawrence O’Donnell made the same point on his show. And after the speech an email went out to those who hadn’t availed themselves of the opportunity to get on The List™ offering them another chance (although from what I could see there were more amounts available, implying that they should’a joined when they could have done so for $5). No mention of the re-election campaign disclaimer, but I’m sure it was there in spirit.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29110 "2019-01-09T16:08:17Z")

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Trump cuts off FEMA aid to California.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.8f27e8f480f9](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f27e8f480f9)

Of all the outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional and utterly douche-y things he’s done, this may just be the one that pisses me off the most. (And not just because I live in California.) He’s taken the one function of the federal government that’s the most altruistic, the least controversial – banding together and helping each other in our hour of need – and turned it nakedly partisan and political. Fuck you, Trump, and may you rot in hell.

And by the way … half the forests in California are federal land. If you’re not happy with the amount of floor sweeping going on, fire your Secretary of Agriculture.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29111 "2019-01-09T16:11:08Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I’m a fan of both those guys. I was just poke’n a little fun. 🙂

I’m a fan, too, and I must admit it was [pretty funny](https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/schumer-and-pelosis-response-trumps-address-becomes-instant-meme-sensation-twitter). 😃 (KYW News Radio)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29112 "2019-01-09T16:19:54Z")

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[“You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work.”](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/09/donald-trump-jr-compares-border-wall-zoo-instagram-post/2523385002/)-Donald Trump Jr.

Incidentally, Donnie One-Scoop, they’re also good for keeping people in prison. FYI.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29113 "2019-01-09T16:22:31Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [“You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work.”](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/09/donald-trump-jr-compares-border-wall-zoo-instagram-post/2523385002/)-Donald Trump Jr.
> 
> …

Deep thinking philosopher types, those Trumps!

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29114 "2019-01-09T16:22:56Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [“You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work.”](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/09/donald-trump-jr-compares-border-wall-zoo-instagram-post/2523385002/)-Donald Trump Jr.

My first thought: the zoo analogy is actually coherent. Bet he copied ‘n’ pasted it from somewhere…

My second thought: Wait, but the zoo analogy only works if _WE’re_ the vicious animals that the rest of the world needs protection from.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29115 "2019-01-09T16:25:27Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Heh. That was Shep Smith, their token decent human being facsimile. No real Foxite will pay any attention to him.

Yeah, but they do pay attention–I’ve noticed petitions on Facebook and such to have him fired because…gasp!..he’s criticized the president and that makes him FAKE NEWS!

No better than CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Post, PennySaver,…I tells ya! Get your real news from social media like a true American Trump Patriot!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29116 "2019-01-09T16:26:57Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump cuts off FEMA aid to California.
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.8f27e8f480f9](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f27e8f480f9)
> 
> Of all the outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional and utterly douche-y things he’s done, this may just be the one that pisses me off the most. (And not just because I live in California.) He’s taken the one function of the federal government that’s the most altruistic, the least controversial – banding together and helping each other in our hour of need – and turned it nakedly partisan and political. Fuck you, Trump, and may you rot in hell.
> 
> And by the way … half the forests in California are federal land. If you’re not happy with the amount of floor sweeping going on, fire your Secretary of Agriculture.

We’re going to suffer many outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional and utterly douche-y things he’s going to do as his “presidency” unravels. This is going to be a very bad year.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29117 "2019-01-09T17:02:55Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Lawrence O’Donnell made the same point on his show. And after the speech an email went out to those who hadn’t availed themselves of the opportunity to get on The List™ offering them another chance (although from what I could see there were more amounts available, implying that they should’a joined when they could have done so for $5). No mention of the re-election campaign disclaimer, but I’m sure it was there in spirit.

I hadn’t seen one of the fundraising emails before. Do they think his fans actually believe that Trump sees their names? The second one basically said “Donald noticed that your name was not on the list! Send money now so he will, with his own eyes, see your name!”. I know they think his fans are stupid, but do they think they are that stupid?

And speaking of his stupid fans, I guess if they see any news about his meeting with journalists yesterday where he actually said he did not want to give the speech or go to the border, they will believe that is fake news. It really is astounding how they are brainwashed.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29118 "2019-01-09T17:10:29Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I hadn’t seen one of the fundraising emails before. Do they think his fans actually believe that Trump sees their names? The second one basically said “Donald noticed that your name was not on the list! Send money now so he will, with his own eyes, see your name!”. I know they think his fans are stupid, but do they think they are that stupid?  
> …

Yes, they absolutely believe it. Yes, they are that stupid.

Just like people watching televangelists believe that when they touch the TV screen, they are actually getting big doses of healing juice directly from the Prophet’s hand.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29119 "2019-01-09T17:20:30Z")

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29120 "2019-01-09T17:37:36Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Did he stretch out his hand to the camera and ask viewers to stretch out their own hands and touch the TV screen so as to receive the healing goo?

Not to outdo the Arb Orb.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump cuts off FEMA aid to California.
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.8f27e8f480f9](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f27e8f480f9)
> 
> Of all the outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional and utterly douche-y things he’s done, this may just be the one that pisses me off the most. (And not just because I live in California.) He’s taken the one function of the federal government that’s the most altruistic, the least controversial – banding together and helping each other in our hour of need – and turned it nakedly partisan and political. Fuck you, Trump, and may you rot in hell.
> 
> And by the way … half the forests in California are federal land. If you’re not happy with the amount of floor sweeping going on, fire your Secretary of Agriculture.

Curious how Californian Trump supporters will try squaring this, with - ?.  
What kinda scapegoating will they contort themselves into _now_?

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [“You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work.”](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/09/donald-trump-jr-compares-border-wall-zoo-instagram-post/2523385002/)-Donald Trump Jr.
> 
> Incidentally, Donnie One-Scoop, they’re also good for keeping people in prison. FYI.

I’m sure you can enjoy your day at the African game farm without the need for any walls, though, Donny Jr.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29121 "2019-01-09T18:07:13Z")

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[FDA sharply curtails food inspections](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/experts-warn-of-safety-and-security-risks-from-government-shutdown/2019/01/08/855472e4-1362-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html).

> [@](#):
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> The agency, which oversees 80 percent of the food supply, has suspended all routine inspections of domestic food-processing facilities, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said in an interview. He said he’s working on a plan to bring back inspectors as early as next week to resume inspections of high-risk facilities, which handle foods such as soft cheese or seafood, or have a history of problems.

Now we can have true maggots for the MAGAts.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29122 "2019-01-09T18:18:10Z")

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Better double-check that all breakable objects are out of the Toddler-in-Chief’s reach!

[TV Ratings: Democrats’ Response to Trump Speech Outdraws President in Early Numbers](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/trump-primetime-speech-tv-ratings-tuesday-jan-8-2019-1174810)

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29123 "2019-01-09T18:29:03Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [FDA sharply curtails food inspections](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/experts-warn-of-safety-and-security-risks-from-government-shutdown/2019/01/08/855472e4-1362-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html).
> 
> Now we can have true maggots for the MAGAts.

And the next few (dozen) _e. coli_ deaths will be the Democrats’ fault, amirite?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29124 "2019-01-09T19:26:20Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump cuts off FEMA aid to California.
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.8f27e8f480f9](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/09/trump-threatens-cut-off-fema-aid-california-forest-fires/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f27e8f480f9)
> 
> Of all the outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional and utterly douche-y things he’s done, this may just be the one that pisses me off the most. (And not just because I live in California.) He’s taken the one function of the federal government that’s the most altruistic, the least controversial – banding together and helping each other in our hour of need – and turned it nakedly partisan and political. Fuck you, Trump, and may you rot in hell.
> 
> And by the way … half the forests in California are federal land. If you’re not happy with the amount of floor sweeping going on, fire your Secretary of Agriculture.

Has the Minority Leader of the House, you know, that guy from California, said anything about this?

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