# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1459
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29165 "2019-01-10T02:39:22Z")
Has anyone asked why Trump doesn’t just send enough to the Go Fund Me site to get things moving? 5B is like couch cushion money to Trump. He is so successful and rich that he could front the money to build the wall and then negotiate payback at some later date, after the wall has proven to be a “yuge” income generator for the USA. I think he’d do it if someone just asked. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29166 "2019-01-10T02:45:37Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > And, unfortunately, I’ll agree with you, partially, that we’re gonna have to re-educate a shitload of people. Especially on basic law and government. I wouldn’t have the faintest how this idea could possibly even start to get off the ground. (My ears are open, though.) I’d wager there wouldn’t be a whole lotta keen enrollees. Anyhoos, to the little less speculative: First Mattis, then McGurk, now [Retired General Anthony Zinni,](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/politics/zinni-state-departure/index.html)the Trump administration’s envoy working to resolve the Gulf region’s diplomatic dispute. He claims there was no bad blood, that he felt he was no longer needed, but in this toxic climate, that sounds more like a slough-off, than anything. Taking the high road, when it’s likely he just simply wants nothing more to do with this ever-evolving (er DE-volving) gong show. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29167 "2019-01-10T02:50:23Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Of course, how lily-livered of me to get you to _maybe_ flesh out your sabre-rattling. > But thanks anyway for the transition (I hope) from education camps to “But protest legally of course. :-)” (heh - afterthought) > We’ll just go with the latter for now, hm? > > ::_SMACKS_ **asahi** ’s hands off my fuckin’ fries.:: They’re my fries now, bitch. #I’mhungry ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29168 "2019-01-10T03:03:05Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Has anyone asked why Trump doesn’t just send enough to the Go Fund Me site to get things moving? 5B is like couch cushion money to Trump. He is so successful and rich that he could front the money to build the wall and then negotiate payback at some later date, after the wall has proven to be a “yuge” income generator for the USA. I think he’d do it if someone just asked. I think thump is (relatively) cash poor. THAT’S why he won’t release his financials. Or were you being ironic? I wasn’t. I think, as billionaires go, he’s broke. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29169 "2019-01-10T03:18:43Z")
“Or were you being ironic?” Uh, yeah…maybe a little. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29170 "2019-01-10T03:25:37Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > They’re my fries now, bitch. > > #I’mhungry Which ones, Sparks? #notfastenoughgrasshopper To add to upthread TPM article on президент Trump’s hightailing out of today’s chin-wag with Chuck and Nancy, Yamiche Lucindor was told by Pence today that Don came into the room and passed out candy. No raised voices, no slammed tables. At [5:24](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/white-house-meeting-concludes-with-2-completely-different-stories-no-progress). > [@River\_Hippie](#): > > “Or were you being ironic?” > > Uh, yeah…maybe a little. > 😃 Thanks. (was wondering too) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29171 "2019-01-10T04:17:26Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Which ones, Sparks? > > #notfastenoughgrasshopper > To add to upthread TPM article on президент Trump’s hightailing out of today’s chin-wag with Chuck and Nancy, Yamiche Lucindor was told by Pence today that Don came into the room and passed out candy. No raised voices, no slammed tables. > At [5:24](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/white-house-meeting-concludes-with-2-completely-different-stories-no-progress).) Pence really, truly is a weasel with the weasel words: > [@](#): > > Vice President Pence told me that the president — quote — “The president walked into the room and passed out candy. I don’t recall him ever raising his voice or slamming his hands.” So Trumpy \*definitely \*did the walking into the room and the passing out of candy. But when it comes to the president yelling and pounding his tiny fists on a table? Oh, he “don’t recall.” I’d quote some Bible passages about lying and welcoming the immigrant, but I think Pence put me on ignore here, so what’s the point. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29172 "2019-01-10T04:36:01Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Pence really, truly is a weasel with the weasel words \ Chris Evans referred to him recently as an “obsequious little worm”. Accurate. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29173 "2019-01-10T05:53:44Z")
So, for Trump, what constitutes a National Emergency is whether he gets what he wants politically: [Trump accidentally admits there’s no actual emergency at the border](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/9/18175617/trump-national-emergency-border-politics) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump inadvertently admitted the emergency declaration he’s considering about the situation on the southern border is all about politics on Wednesday, saying it’s “the people that are unreasonable” who will determine if he declares one. > > Asked by a reporter why he didn’t declare a national emergency during his Oval Office speech on Tuesday night, Trump said, “because I think we might work a deal, and if we don’t, I may go that route.” Hurricane in Puerto Rico? A National Emergency that Trump doesn’t care about except to resent it. A woman tells him No today? National Emergency!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29174 "2019-01-10T09:54:41Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > So [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has called Trump a racist](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/424435-ocasio-cortez-trump-is-racist-and-that-should-make-you-uncomfortable). The White House has responded with, “President Trump supported and passed historic criminal justice reform … and … has repeatedly condemned racism and bigotry in all forms.” > > Is it just me, or is there an…unsavory implication in that response? Your first instinct when challenged about racism is to essentially say you’re making prisons nicer for them, for when, you assume, they’ll commit crimes? Recall that during his campaign the concepts of “black”, “urban” and “crime” were always inextricably linked, and he rarely mentioned one without the other two. In his mind black people only live in cities and criminals are always urban blacks. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29175 "2019-01-10T13:28:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Blue screen is also used. Green is more common, though. Chroma-key works well with either, red not so much. I suspect the shift from blue to green was made because blue is much more popular as a clothing color. > [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > And he was squinting with one eye while the other one was normally open. I wondered if it might be some kind of symptom, but it’s probably just him being too vain to use any corrective lenses at an age where most people need them. Orange make-up stings when you get some in your eye. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > And the next few (dozen) _e. coli_ deaths will be the Democrats’ fault, amirite? Well, those border crossers are carrying _e. coli_ in their gut, aren’t they? Right next to the smallpox viruses. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29176 "2019-01-10T13:38:50Z")
Just… watch. [https://twitter.com/jules\_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19](https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29177 "2019-01-10T14:01:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Just… watch. > > [https://twitter.com/jules\_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19](https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19) Not very informative, and it won’t play on my computer. Here’s the gist of it: > **[Did a 1950s TV Episode Feature a Character Named Trump Who Offered to Build a...](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trackdown-trump-character-wall/)** > > An episode of the 1950s TV series 'Trackdown' featured a character named Walter Trump who claimed he would build a wall in order to protect a town from the end of the world. > [@](#): > > In November 2016, a clip from an episode of the 1950s western television series Trackdown was published to YouTube, along with the claim that it “predicted Donald Trump” by featuring a snake oil salesman character named “Trump” who claimed that only he could prevent the end of the world … by building a wall around the town: > **[This Television Show Predicted Donald Trump . . . in 1958](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/tv-show-predicts-donald-trump)** > > In which a con man named Trump scares a town into letting him build a wall. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29178 "2019-01-10T14:13:29Z")
Trump used to understand that walls don’t work: [Donald Trump Wagner College, 2004 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39mZ4tqemf8) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29179 "2019-01-10T14:20:10Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Just… watch. > > [https://twitter.com/jules\_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19](https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19) :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29180 "2019-01-10T14:35:54Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Just… watch. > > [https://twitter.com/jules\_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19](https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1083355853611253760?s=19) That Trump con man has better hair than the present-day one. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29181 "2019-01-10T15:22:39Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Chris Evans referred to him recently as an “obsequious little worm”. > > Accurate. You remember how Pence had to put his water bottle on the floor after Master did so? Fast forward to 4:20 or so: After longingly gazing at Master during his comments, he notices Master is now shaking hands. "Oh, I better shake hands. Let me pull off a smooth spin until I find a hand to shake". Pence is a creepy motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29182 "2019-01-10T15:36:30Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > You remember how Pence had to put his water bottle on the floor after Master did so? > > Fast forward to 4:20 or so: After longingly gazing at Master during his comments, he notices Master is now shaking hands. "Oh, I better shake hands. Let me pull off a smooth spin until I find a hand to shake". > > Pence is a creepy motherfucker. They way he looks at Trump makes my skin crawl. There is something deeply wrong with him in an unearthly kind of way. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29183 "2019-01-10T16:00:15Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > They way he looks at Trump makes my skin crawl. There is something deeply wrong with him in an unearthly kind of way. Pence = Wormtongue ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29184 "2019-01-10T16:03:43Z")
The Dotard explains that he never said what everybody heard him say over and over: > [@The Liar-in-Chief](#): > > During the campaign, I would say Mexico would pay for it, I NEVER SAID THIS [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1458) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1460)