# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1467
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29325 "2019-01-12T18:29:21Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > A friendly bet, sure. I wouldn’t bet the farm. > > What if we’re both right? How does the bet shake out? Right on. We’re not both right. The word is “jig” with a soft “j” sound, not “gig” which begins with a hard “g”. If you can show me 6 recorded instances of anyone saying “the gig is up”, I’ll concede that we’re both right, but you won’t be able to. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to show you cite after cite and example after example of “the jig is up”. Not only that, a “gig” is a job, and no one says “the job is up”, ever. No musician or other performer has ever ended a gig and noted that “the gig is up”. My cite is 38 years of gigging. 😛 I’ll go first: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the\_jig\_is\_up](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_jig_is_up) > > **[The Jig Is Up – A Surprising Insight into English Deceptions](https://grammarist.com/idiom/the-jig-is-up-and-the-game-is-up/)** > > The jig is up means that a deception or pretense has been uncovered and can no longer continue. It's like saying, "I've figured out your lie!" This English language idiom is mostly used when a > **[Which is correct: "The jig is up" or "The gig is up"?](https://www.quora.com/Which-is-correct-The-jig-is-up-or-The-gig-is-up)** > > Answer (1 of 17): It’s actually the jig is up, which refers to an old dance style called a Jig. The word came to mean a joke or prank, and so the phrase came to mean “the prank has been exposed”, or “the joke has been solved”. > > Many people mistakenly... > **[The jig/gig is up - phrase meaning and origin](https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/55/messages/720.html)** > > The jig/gig is up - the meaning and origin of this phrase [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXR9fbPqjQ) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29326 "2019-01-12T18:32:09Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > [Yabbut](https://www.quora.com/Which-is-correct-The-jig-is-up-or-The-gig-is-up): > > Since we’re talking about Cheetolilni’s short-term job coming to a conclusion, we could say, “the gig is up.” 😃 Wow. Okay, so now you’re going from “correcting” me to trying to show that another usage could also be right? Hey: go fuck yourself, asshole. “Correct” me like that again and I won’t offer you an easy way out, I’ll just tell you to fuck off, k? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29327 "2019-01-12T18:42:20Z")
Well that escalated quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29328 "2019-01-12T18:51:58Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Well that escalated quickly. Seemed a little intense. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29329 "2019-01-12T18:52:32Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Or an Occupy Mar-a-Lago? Not enough room and the décor sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29330 "2019-01-12T18:54:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > A gig is also the captain’s dinghy. When the gig is down (in the water), the captain is off somewhere else; when the gig is up, the captain is back onboard and you better be behaving yourself again. Does the captain’s dinghy have a strange, mushroom-like shape? And what does it mean if it is found in the quarry? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29331 "2019-01-12T19:13:23Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It took “the Russian steamroller” out of the war. Not really, though. Lenin was in Zurich at the time of the February revolution as well as when Nicky stepped down. That was the major turning point for Russia. He then gathered some friends and managed to get safe passage back to his country. The Germans did not take an active role in getting Lenin back to Russia as **JohnT** suggests, they merely allowed him to get there himself. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29332 "2019-01-12T19:22:58Z")
Hmmm. My sources say differently: > [@](#): > > The German government was at war with Russia, but it nonetheless agreed to help Lenin return home. Germany saw “in this obscure fanatic one more bacillus to let loose in tottering and exhausted Russia to spread infection,” Crankshaw writes. > > On April 9, Lenin and his 31 comrades gathered at Zurich station. A group of about 100 Russians, enraged that the revolutionaries had arranged passage by negotiating with the German enemy, jeered at the departing company. “Provocateurs! Spies! Pigs! Traitors!” the demonstrators shouted, in a scene documented by historian Michael Pearson. “The Kaiser is paying for the journey…They’re going to hang you…like German spies.” (Evidence suggests that German financiers did, in fact, secretly fund Lenin and his circle.) > **[Vladimir Lenin's Return Journey to Russia Changed the World Forever](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/vladimir-lenin-return-journey-russia-changed-world-forever-180962127/#3GQed7EO4SxRfqPB.99)** > > On the 100th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, our writer set out from Zurich to relive this epic travel ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29333 "2019-01-12T19:30:34Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![1iLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/1ileft/32/4114_2.png) [@1iLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1iLeft)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29334 "2019-01-12T19:51:12Z")
> [@Someone on Twitter](#): > > Why don’t we protect the border with thoughts and prayers? It’s what we use to protect our schools. And we should get Mexico to pray for it. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29335 "2019-01-12T20:07:22Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Seemed a little intense. Perhaps the gig is indeed up. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29336 "2019-01-12T20:10:49Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Wow. > > Okay, so now you’re going from “correcting” me to trying to show that another usage could also be right? > > Hey: go fuck yourself, asshole. “Correct” me like that again and I won’t offer you an easy way out, I’ll just tell you to fuck off, k? Whoa, dude – might wanna switch to decaf there, mmkay? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29337 "2019-01-12T20:52:39Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Well that escalated quickly. We might need to brring Cecil out of retirement to settle this one. I wonder what his consultant fee is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29338 "2019-01-12T21:23:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > We aren’t actually. A _sitting_ president can be impeached, and subsequent to conviction, be removed from office; only _THEN_ can he be tried for treason, convicted, and executed. > > But as **Johnny L.A.** points out, he _shouldn’t_. This is because capital punishment is morally wrong, always and everywhere, and always has been, since the beginning of time. Tan the Conman is certainly anti-America and a traitor to America and its values in more ways than one; however, he hasn’t met the constitutional definition of treason…yet. > [@enipla](#): > > We may all get their wish. Many already are. Of course, according to Trump, they like not getting paychecks. I think they should camp out on his golf courses. > > I think that one way out of this is that Trump supporters (except for the top 1%) are going to get hit the hardest. They will, or course, continue to avoid those nasty things called facts. I suspect that if Trump makes it to 2020, they will simply not vote. Dream on. They will never blame him. They will turn out in greater numbers to ensure his re-election. And if he gets impeached or assassinated before then, every conspircy known previously will pale in comparison to the one they will create as to why and how that happened. And innocent people will die at their hands “for being part of the takedown of the greatest president we ever had”. > [@1iLeft](#): > > And we should get Mexico to pray for it. Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29339 "2019-01-12T21:30:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Tan the Conman is certainly anti-America and a traitor to America and its values in more ways than one; however, he hasn’t met the constitutional definition of treason…yet. > > Dream on. They will never blame him. They will turn out in greater numbers to ensure his re-election. And if he gets impeached or assassinated before then, every conspircy known previously will pale in comparison to the one they will create as to why and how that happened. And innocent people will die at their hands “for being part of the takedown of the greatest president we ever had”. > > Awesome! It’s true. Trump supporters have a sado-masochistic relationship with their hero. The more he hurts them, the more they like him. It’s a very strange phenomena. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29340 "2019-01-12T21:34:23Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It’s true. Trump supporters have a sado-masochistic relationship with their hero. The more he hurts them, the more they like him. It’s a very strange phenomena. If he’s hurting them, they just imagine how much he’s hurting the people they don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29341 "2019-01-12T21:54:36Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > ^This. Too many media figures are going with “Trump versus Pelosi” as the ratings-grabbing story. > > The actual story is that McConnell, by refusing to act on his oath of office, is almost single-handedly responsible for the continuance of this debacle. > > This may be part of what’s going on with McConnell–if he’s not personally compromised, his wife may be. > (my emphasis) I think he’s just another ReTrumpican who is dirty as hell and belongs to Putin. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29342 "2019-01-12T21:56:34Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I can’t help but wonder how many people still believe the election of Trump was as a result of a legitimate election. Huh? I think it’s more a case of “we ‘won’ and don’t give a fat flying orange fuck how”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29343 "2019-01-12T22:03:20Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Huh? I think it’s more a case of “we ‘won’ and don’t give a fat flying orange fuck how”. He “won” on a procedural technicality. Not the same thing as outright winning. And that fact will be stuck in his craw forever. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29344 "2019-01-12T22:04:58Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I think he’s just another ReTrumpican who is dirty as hell and belongs to Putin. One liberal conspiracy theory I’ve heard is that McConnell, Ryan, et al have been recorded telling the NRA how to funnel Russian/oligarch money to the RNC and cover it up. What seemed totally crazy at the beginning of this clusterfuck doesn’t seem so surprising anymore. I don’t think I’d be shocked if that turned out to be true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1466) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1468)