# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1470
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29385 "2019-01-13T14:39:38Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > Does it have a length or coherence standard specified? SOTU tweet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29386 "2019-01-13T14:43:26Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > SOTU tweet. Like I said. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let him tweet the SOTU. I believe a 140-character State of the Union address would be more than adequate, given the state of the union. … ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29387 "2019-01-13T15:14:34Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > …which is, BTW, the Demonrats’ fault… Really??? ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29388 "2019-01-13T17:30:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He can deliver a written SOTU report and bypass the speech. He cannot bypass the SOTU as it is a Constitutional requirement. But is there actually a requirement as to when, or how often, the SOTU has to be given? Doesn’t the Constitution just say, “He shall, from time to time …”? Source: Episode titles of _The West Wing._ ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29389 "2019-01-13T17:41:54Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He can deliver a written SOTU report and bypass the speech. He cannot bypass the SOTU as it is a Constitutional requirement. I’m not sure there’s an enforcement mechanism. Kind of like the Senate not voting on judicial nominees. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29390 "2019-01-13T17:53:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He can deliver a written SOTU report and bypass the speech. He cannot bypass the SOTU as it is a Constitutional requirement. > [@Aspidistra](#): > > Does it have a length or coherence standard specified? This is the standard: > [@Article II](#): > > “He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29391 "2019-01-13T17:58:24Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Really??? No, not “Really.” Note how **Otto** ’s post ends with “Sad!” That’s the clue. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29392 "2019-01-13T18:39:34Z")
Trump skip out on an opportunity to talk on television in prime time? It is to laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29393 "2019-01-13T18:56:11Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Well, when they don’t get their tax refund, they might notice that. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let him tweet the SOTU. I believe a 140-character State of the Union address would be more than adequate, given the state of the union. (My emphasis) > > **BEEP** Sorry, disqualification due to attributing “realization” to our so-called president. > > If thump were put into a concrete, rat-infested cell, half-submerged in water with a 3" X 3" window looking out onto an air shaft, and a big screen playing a continuous Power Point presentation of how he has lost every penny he ever had (including the pretend pennies, of which I believe there are the most); how his name has been stripped from every piece of property he ever owned, including real and personal-- signs, monograms, everything; how nobody knows where he is or cares… none of these things would produce one molecule of realization and they certainly wouldn’t trigger any “pondering” of anything except how nothing is, was, or ever will be his fault. And he won’t connect it with any “vanity” anything. The losers of the world did this to him because they ARE losers and he will never be one. It’s a mighty delusion. We see it acted out every single day. I agree he’s probably not capable of the introspection to realize if he’d never run for president he wouldn’t be under all these investigations, BUT if he were in jail and penniless he’d be super mad and the thought of that brings me great satisfaction. I’m not sure that will ever happen but it would be quite satisfying to me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29394 "2019-01-13T19:00:24Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Oh, he is willing and knows. No way he does not know, or is unwilling. He knows that he is colluding, he just thinks that he is colluding with Putin becase Putin recognizes his brilliance and worthiness to lead. He is unwitting in that he is simply a pawn in Putin’s plans to damage the only world power able to hold him in check. > [@eschereal](#): > > Are you going full- **asahi** on us now? Yes, elections have consequences, and honestly, I feel like presidents and executroids are far too well insulated from the effects of their decisions or from bearing any of the cost of their mistakes, but hanging them really helps no one, ever. If you want to punish him, confiscate everything he owns and make him try to support his newly indigent family by folding tacos – the long, drawn-out punishment is much more satisfying, and the convict does not get the relief of the quick consummation. I disagree with the death penalty on philosophical grounds, but as long as we have it, as long as the public supports the ultimate punishment for heinous crimes, then I do think that the damage that this president has done to this country and her people clears the bar, IMHO, far more than many others on death row. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Hanged. Did I say hung like a horse? Sorry, I meant hanged like a horse _thief_. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29395 "2019-01-13T19:07:47Z")
More word salad from the Shit Gibbon, unable to answer even a simple yes or no question (“Are you now or have you ever worked for the Russian government?”). [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-no-would-have-been-helpful-here](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-no-would-have-been-helpful-here) My favorite snippet: “I fired James Comey… I call him Lyin James Comey, because he’s a terrible liar…” Hmmm, I guess that’s why we call Trump “President Trump”? Because he’s a terrible president? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29396 "2019-01-13T19:15:36Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He knows that he is colluding, he just thinks that he is colluding with Putin becase Putin recognizes his brilliance and worthiness to lead. It’s just “business”. Screw anyone for a buck is trumps great business strategy. Run away if it doesn’t work out as planned. Trump doesn’t have a clue of who and what he’s dealing with. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29397 "2019-01-13T19:21:35Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > More word salad from the Shit Gibbon, unable to answer even a simple yes or no question (“Are you now or have you ever worked for the Russian government?”). > > [A ‘No’ Would Have Been Helpful Here - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-no-would-have-been-helpful-here) > > My favorite snippet: > “I fired James Comey… I call him Lyin James Comey, because he’s a terrible liar…” > > Hmmm, I guess that’s why we call Trump “President Trump”? Because he’s a terrible president? No, it’s because Trump thinks he’s a great liar. Just business don’t cha’know. Actually, IMHO, Trump is too stupid to know that he lies and misleads. Whatever odd thing that pops into his head is policy. That has been his entire life. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29398 "2019-01-13T19:43:37Z")
Anthony Scaramucci is going to be a contestant on Celebrity Big Brother. > **[Anthony Scaramucci among 12 new 'Celebrity Big Brother' houseguests](https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/13/celebrity-big-brother-cast-anthony-scaramucci/?__twitter_impression=true)** > > Joey Lawrence, Kato Kaelin, and other oddballs also have been sentenced to the Big Brother house. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29399 "2019-01-13T20:04:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let him tweet the SOTU. I believe a 140-character State of the Union address would be more than adequate, given the state of the union. It’s now 280 characters. And I think, as a service to our country, that we Dopers should assist in composing a tweet-worthy SOTU. There are a lot of smart and well-spoken folks on this board; surely somebody can compose a well-written speech in 280 keystrokes or less? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29400 "2019-01-13T20:14:51Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He is unwitting in that he is simply a pawn in Putin’s plans to damage the only world power able to hold him in check. “Trump-o pawn in game of life.” -Lying Saddles > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Did I say hung like a horse? Sorry, I meant hanged like a horse _thief_. MamaPlant the Engliah teacher would be content. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29401 "2019-01-13T20:48:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Anthony Scaramucci is going to be a contestant on Celebrity Big Brother. Will the first elimination be eleven days after the show starts? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29402 "2019-01-13T21:05:05Z")
I’m hearing Chump not only personally confiscated interpreters’ transcripts of his meeting between him and Putin but also warned the interpreters never to tell White House officials what was discussed. Can’t the House now subpoena those interpreters and make them talk? > [@Shoeless](#): > > More word salad from the Shit Gibbon, unable to answer even a simple yes or no question (“Are you now or have you ever worked for the Russian government?”). > > [A ‘No’ Would Have Been Helpful Here - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-no-would-have-been-helpful-here) Odd he can’t just lie and say no. He’s had no trouble lying about anything else even if it could mean legal liability later down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29403 "2019-01-13T21:37:59Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Odd he can’t just lie and say no. He’s had no trouble lying about anything else even if it could mean legal liability later down the road. I know it was Fox, so his word salad was likely to go unchallenged, but it would be hilarious to have a real reporter get that response and then follow up with “So… that’s a yes?” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29404 "2019-01-13T22:45:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Anthony Scaramucci is going to be a contestant on Celebrity Big Brother. > [https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/13/celebrity-big-brother-cast-anthony-scaramucci/amp/?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/13/celebrity-big-brother-cast-anthony-scaramucci/amp/?__twitter_impression=true) Not to junior mod, but can we keep the entertainment news in CS? 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1469) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1471)