# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2941 "2017-04-02T20:23:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> It was a mistype. I meant to say legislator, not legislature. It was a mistake.

Now sing the “Very Sorry” song. [Do it](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/68468856810175076/). :mad:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2942 "2017-04-02T20:40:22Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> If this were the first time you went off half-cocked on these stories, i’d be happy to chalk it up to a typo. But this is a symptom of the bigger issue: your obsession with posting every small or large outrage, whether it’s relevant to the discussion or not.
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> Tell me, what does this one idiot’s idiocy have to do with Trump? How does the stupidity of a state legislator who represents Dubuque, Iowa, help us understand the clusterfuck that is the Trump administration?

Why not assume **Rick** meant to post in the [Stupid Republican thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831)?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2943 "2017-04-02T20:46:58Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> If this were the first time you went off half-cocked on these stories, i’d be happy to chalk it up to a typo. **But this is a symptom of the bigger issue: your obsession with posting every small or large outrage, whether it’s relevant to the discussion or not.**
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> Tell me, what does this one idiot’s idiocy have to do with Trump? How does the stupidity of a state legislator who represents Dubuque, Iowa, help us understand the clusterfuck that is the Trump administration?

And that was a mistake, too. I meant to put it in the Stupid Republican Ideas thread. But it was too late to change it.

And prove the highlighted contention.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2944 "2017-04-02T20:47:53Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Why not assume **Rick** meant to post in the [Stupid Republican thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831)?

And why not assume that we already have mods here, and we don’t need any more self-appointed netcops?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2945 "2017-04-02T21:03:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> WTF??
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> There goes the label “pro-life.”

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> What the ever lovin’ FUCK!!!

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> It was a mistype. I meant to say legislator, not legislature. It was a mistake.

It’s outrageous that even ONE legislator had this idea and spoke it out loud. So get off **Rick Kitchen’s** back.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2946 "2017-04-02T21:29:08Z")

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Although this thread seems to concentrate on laughable blunders, tomorrow the serious shit starts.

Trump is stupid, ignorant, and arrogant, but he is about to get his first win, and it will more than make up for any possible combination of failures he has had, and will continue to have.

Gorsuch will become a Supreme Court Justice, and will exacerbate the pro-corporation slant of the court for the next 40 years or more. If Ginsburg dies or retires in the next three years, which seems likely, then Trump gets another pick (and if the Republicans still control the Senate, you can be sure that they will develop amnesia about their steadfast belief that for the purposes of appointing a Justice, Presidential terms last less than three years). Between Trump’s and W’s abysmal appointments, we’ll have decades of an ultra-conservative court.

Not funny at all.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2947 "2017-04-03T01:41:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Iowa state legislature says that women who miscarry must carry the dead fetus till term.  
> [http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Lawmaker-Miscarrying-women-must-carry-dead-11041280.php](http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Lawmaker-Miscarrying-women-must-carry-dead-11041280.php)

Well, it appears [The Cunt](http://www.newsweek.com/iowa-abortion-shannon-lundgren-miscarriage-dead-fetus-term-577289) misspoke. Oh yeah, this piece of shit has also backed bills to limit workplace injury claims, to prohibit cities and countries from enacting bans on possession of firearms, and to limit collective bargaining for public employees.

No doubt this “Christian” likes to take it right up the ass.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2948 "2017-04-03T02:15:24Z")

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Don’t you mean “cities and counties”?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2949 "2017-04-03T11:29:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> As it was said before, the Trump voters actually did lose too. They have not figured it out yet. Of course the half assed ‘emperor has no clothes’ failure negociating health care should had been a big clue to those voters already, but I guess one should be drunk to not see it.

[Cognitive dissonance at its best](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0).

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> Banks, a 70-year-old struggling to get by, said she voted for Trump because “he was talking about getting rid of those illegals.” But Banks now finds herself shocked that he also has his sights on funds for the Labor Department’s Senior Community Service Employment Program, which is her lifeline. It pays senior citizens a minimum wage to hold public service jobs.
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> “This program makes sense,” said Banks, who was placed by the program into a job as a receptionist for a senior nutrition program. Banks said she depends on the job to make ends meet, and for an excuse to get out of the house.
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> “If I lose this job,” she said, “I’ll sit home and die.”
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> Yet she said she might still vote for Trump in 2020.

Well, unless she dies, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2950 "2017-04-03T12:08:09Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Cognitive dissonance at its best](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0).  
> Well, unless she dies, obviously.

I thought Trumplelthinskin had proved that dead people routinely vote. Or is that just dead Democrats?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2951 "2017-04-03T13:09:44Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Cognitive dissonance at its best](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0).  
> Well, unless she dies, obviously.

It’s not exactly cognitive dissonance. Well, not entirely. It’s emotional investment.

If you’re a Trumpist and he suddenly proposes to hurt you, you aren’t going to give up on him THIS fast. Trumpists are deeply, deeply emotionally invested in him; that’s how he got sixty million people to vote for the him. Emotions aren’t changed this quickly, not in a couple of months. Your first reaction to him stiffing you is going to be “this is bad, but, he’s my guy, he’ll change his mind or something.”

For the voters to turn away from their preferred candidate will take much longer than this, like a couple of years, and they’ll have to be actually, materially damaged by him, not just “this would theoretically hurt me but it hasn’t actually happened yet.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2952 "2017-04-03T13:17:54Z")

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Yeah, let’s not forget that [over 8% of all Germans had to _die_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Nazi_Germany) before they could get rid of Hitler.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2953 "2017-04-03T13:21:16Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Cognitive dissonance at its best](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0).

She never thought the leopards would eat _her_ face.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2954 "2017-04-03T14:06:33Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> She never thought the leopards would eat _her_ face.

This is it exactly. Trump was always going to cut that unspecified government waste being paid out to those unspecified lazy scroungers living off benefits, never the actual programs involving actual poor people and certainly never the ones that affect actual Republicans even though poor Republicans are the main recipients of government support.

One of the other people in the article says that the problem isn’t Trump, it’s the budget which is cutting the wrong things. Mistakes were made, cuts happened, nothing to do with Trump or the Republicans at all.

But maybe they could cut those Obamaphones, as one interviewee suggested. Which aren’t funded via the budget at all.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2955 "2017-04-03T14:31:36Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> One of the other people in the article says that the problem isn’t Trump, it’s the budget which is cutting the wrong things. Mistakes were made, cuts happened, nothing to do with Trump or the Republicans at all.

Wonder how long it’ll take them to figure out that the Cossacks work for the Czar.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2956 "2017-04-03T15:46:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Iowa state legislature says that women who miscarry must carry the dead fetus till term.  
> [http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Lawmaker-Miscarrying-women-must-carry-dead-11041280.php](http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Lawmaker-Miscarrying-women-must-carry-dead-11041280.php)

What, once it’s outside? Now would that make a lovely addition to any workplace! :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2957 "2017-04-03T15:48:47Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> This is it exactly. Trump was always going to cut that unspecified government waste being paid out to those unspecified lazy scroungers living off benefits, never the actual programs involving actual poor people and certainly never the ones that affect actual Republicans even though poor Republicans are the main recipients of government support.
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> \*\*One of the other people in the article says that the problem isn’t Trump, it’s the budget which is cutting the wrong things. Mistakes were made, cuts happened, nothing to do with Trump or the Republicans at all.
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> But maybe they could cut those Obamaphones, as one interviewee suggested. Which aren’t funded via the budget at all\*\*.

I _really_ tried to muster even the slightest bit of sympathy. Then I read the bolded part, and it was collapsed beneath the horrifying realization that these people will _never learn_. We’d all be a lot better off if they fucking died. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2958 "2017-04-03T15:58:17Z")

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What on Earth is an “Obamaphone”?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2959 "2017-04-03T16:04:07Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What on Earth is an “Obamaphone”?

One of the more stupid false memes that have been whispering around the alt-right crowd for quite some time: [The Obama Phone](http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/)

So many, hard to choose just one. Stupid false memes, I mean.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/2960 "2017-04-03T16:06:58Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What on Earth is an “Obamaphone”?

While the word is not used in [this article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund#Low_income_.28Lifeline.29), it sums up the program that is sometimes referred to as Obamaphones.

ETA: ninja’d by Aspenglow. Brava!

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