# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1483
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29645 "2019-01-17T20:21:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Does the wanna-be dictator honestly think that he can ban overseas travel by his political opponents? He’s still the Commander in Chief, and apparently he can order the Air Force to cancel the flight. [More in this article.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46911478) ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29646 "2019-01-17T20:25:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Can I just remark that paying $50k to game an online poll is possibly the dumbest waste of money I’ve ever heard of? Nah. The dumbest waste of money is to pay $50k to _unsuccessfully_ game an online poll. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29647 "2019-01-17T20:26:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I don’t plug contaminated thumb drives into my computer. Stormy Daniels managed to avoid infection, so far as we know. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29648 "2019-01-17T20:30:44Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Can I just remark that paying $50k to game an online poll is possibly the dumbest waste of money I’ve ever heard of? > [@Celidin](#): > > Nah. The dumbest waste of money is to pay $50k to _unsuccessfully_ game an online poll. Point taken. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29649 "2019-01-17T20:33:32Z")
From a PR perspective, Shitgibbon should’ve let her go and blasted her for skipping the country and blowing off negotiations while federal workers went unpaid. So Mr. Master Negotiator can’t even get public relations right anymore. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29650 "2019-01-17T20:33:51Z")
Trump is telling Pelosi that “during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me”, but also saying she’s welcome to fly commercial? Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29651 "2019-01-17T20:52:18Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > Nah. The dumbest waste of money is to pay $50k to _unsuccessfully_ game an online poll. $12,000 and a boxing glove. What’s wrong with these people? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29652 "2019-01-17T20:59:11Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Also Pelosi can (and should) now blame Trump for publicizing the previously secret trip. Now that the secret is out, it won’t be safe for her to fly commercial. We all remember Trump made a war zone trip just a few weeks ago in complete secret. Actually, she should emphasize the aircrew and base personnel Cadet Bone Spurs put at risk and downplay the issue of her own safety. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29653 "2019-01-17T21:01:39Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Also Pelosi can (and should) now blame Trump for publicizing the previously secret trip. Now that the secret is out, it won’t be safe for her to fly commercial. We all remember Trump made a war zone trip just a few weeks ago in complete secret. And promptly exposed the (previously) secret presence of a SEAL team. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29654 "2019-01-17T21:16:37Z")
What was the reason for Pelosi’s trip? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29655 "2019-01-17T21:40:05Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > He’s still the Commander in Chief, and apparently he can order the Air Force to cancel the flight. [More in this article.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46911478) I retract my earlier statement and substitute: Does this idiot man-boy think that it’s a good idea to remove protection from a member of the opposition going to a war zone? Does his think it’s a good idea to make this trip public and increase the danger to others for political gain? (note; rhetorical question) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29656 "2019-01-17T21:48:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I retract my earlier statement and substitute: > > Does this idiot man-boy think that it’s a good idea to remove protection from a member of the opposition going to a war zone? Does his think it’s a good idea to make this trip public and increase the danger to others for political gain? > > (note; rhetorical question) As long as he “wins”, yes. Remember, he was _proud_ that his supporters are so lacking in morals that they would ignore him randomly murdering someone. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29657 "2019-01-17T21:51:49Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > Nah. The dumbest waste of money is to pay $50k to _unsuccessfully_ game an online poll. To rig a poll to show that their candidate was winning an election that they actually won. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29658 "2019-01-17T21:58:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Good holy God… we’ve\* been saying that around here from Day One of this so-called administration! Deny him the audience, don’t engage, don’t wind him up, don’t give him the satisfaction, don’t play HIS GAME. IOW treat him the way we treat SDMB trolls. The narcissist craves attention. Do not give it to him. Make his head explode. > > \*Well, I have, anyway. :dubious: I’ll see your Inauguration Day and raise you an escalator ride. (I know you were there too.) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29659 "2019-01-17T22:10:37Z")
> [@simster](#): > > and, from some of the responses in the thread, classified information. And, I loved this exchange of comments on Sanders’ tweet: “Best president of my lifetime.” “So you’re 2?” ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29660 "2019-01-17T22:30:07Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What was the reason for Pelosi’s trip? It wasn’t just Pelosi. It was a congressional delegation. It was cancelled after the members of Congress had [boarded a bus](https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-hill-chaos-after-trump-cancels-congressional-trip-to-afghanistan-2019-1)to take them to the plane. > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — When President Donald Trump canceled a congressional delegation’s plans to travel to Afghanistan on Thursday, he set off a firestorm of angry lawmakers that resulted in a wild-goose chase around the grounds of the United States Capitol. > > In apparent retaliation for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s suggestion that the State of the Union be postponed until the partial government shutdown is over or be submitted in writing, Trump nixed the trip to Afghanistan, which included a stop in Brussels for members of Congress to meet with military officials and NATO partners. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29661 "2019-01-17T22:32:24Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Also Pelosi can (and should) now blame Trump for publicizing the previously secret trip. Now that the secret is out, it won’t be safe for her to fly commercial. We all remember Trump made a war zone trip just a few weeks ago in complete secret. No, no, no. Now is the time to ignore him. Don’t play his childish game. She needs to be the grown-up and not take the bait. Just let him twist in the wind with drool running down his big double chin. He has jumped down in the mud pit and he’s beckoning to her and taunting her. _“Jump in here and roll around in the mud! You know you want to! Come down to MY level!”_ She must not take the bait. Just walk away. Don’t engage with trolls. It works here and it works there. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29662 "2019-01-17T22:36:43Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > This. And quit reporting every goddamn thing he tweets! I’d love for the media to start saying “The President had no comment” if his only comment is on Twitter. I’d love for them to start saying, “Today, the President told the truth about X. Everything else he said or tweeted was a bald-faced lie, and he knows it.” Unless, of course, he said nothing truthful, then they should say that the President had nothing to say. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29663 "2019-01-17T22:40:25Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Stormy Daniels managed to avoid infection, so far as we know. Fifty years later, and Trump’s personal Vietnam could have claimed another victim. She’s lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29664 "2019-01-17T23:04:45Z")
Not that [everybody](https://twitter.com/KaivanShroff/status/1086023358117003264) has to stay home… > [@](#): > > So workers aren’t being paid, Pelosi isn’t allowed to visit troops abroad, but Melania is flying on taxpayers’ dime to Palm Beach right now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1482) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1484)