# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1492
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29825 "2019-01-21T17:41:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Who is “They”? Why is there a picture for this thread, but no others? Do the Tapatalk people insert it? > > Just puzzled by it all. Why don’t other threads in the other forums have pix? > [@CannyDan](#): > > Wondering the same thing myself! Also viewing with Tapatalk. Does not appear on my desktop. I have been using Tapatalk for some years now, and it seems that in the thread overviews, they show the last picture (or video) that has been posted to a thread. Note that Tapatalk also shows those pictures (and videos) inline in the posts, whereas in a browser you only see the links. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29826 "2019-01-21T19:01:25Z")
Individual 1 and his Vice went to the MLK memorial this morning. They said Hi, how ya doin’, commented on the weather, and left after two minutes without mentioning Martin Luther King. > **[Trump marks MLK day with 2-minute memorial visit](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/21/trump-mlk-day-memorial-visit-1116559?fbclid=IwAR1spCYN_jSAHu-rYngzHVqcX5KV4HWVCGDQBHCcFcHY4AbRWOb65nEkCz4)** > > At the memorial, Trump and Pence laid a wreath at the base of a sculpture of King. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29827 "2019-01-21T19:05:24Z")
Trump probably figured he’d been snubbed when King wasn’t there to greet him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29828 "2019-01-21T19:07:59Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Trump probably figured he’d been snubbed when King wasn’t there to greet him. Or afraid if King showed up, he’d ask to rent an apartment. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29829 "2019-01-21T20:34:39Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > They are not so much hats as caps. They ought to be known as the maga redcaps, just for the sake of twisting them. > > besides, there is a [Red Hat Society](https://www.redhatsociety.com/) already, which should in no way be connected with magats I’d like to make it perfectly clear that they are in no way toques. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29830 "2019-01-21T21:21:25Z")
Well, you know how to spot MAGA caps? Look for the unpaid bills. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29831 "2019-01-21T23:29:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, I’m not seeing deep thought at work, either. Trump’s schtick for decades has been to create a false reality, then sell that reality with confidence in the hopes that someone else will accept that false reality as the\* real\* reality. At that point you are a sucker and he has made his sale (or you’re a supporter and he has your vote). If the lies coming from Trump & Giuliani seem more and more ridiculous, they are just following this pattern of repeating the nonsense until it is finally accepted as fact. They really have nothing else to work with. That’s all true, I think. There’s also a specific (non-4th-dimensional-chess) reason for Giuliani’s revelations in general though: to get out ahead of that particular piece of news and hang a ‘No Big Deal’ sign on it. In this case, Guiliani told the world yesterday that Trump had talked with Cohen before Cohen’s testimony to Congress, _about_ that testimony. Guiliani didn’t say that Trump had told Cohen to lie because Trump & Co. believe that the evidence Mueller has about that is of the “plausibly deniable” type. In other words, there may be emails referring to Trump asking “what are you going to say?” and Cohen answering “that the Trump-Tower-Moscow stuff was all over before you started running for President” and Trump then talking about the weather or such. Or there may even be tapes made by Cohen of such an interchange. It would be something that pretty clearly is Trump making sure that Cohen would lie. But it wouldn’t include Trump saying the words “be sure you lie to them.” So, in the minds of Trump enablers, “plausibly deniable.” It would be bad if this information came from investigators into Trump. Better to put it out first. Rudy would want the world to know that this evidence exists, and he’d want to sell the idea that it’s ‘a nothingberder’ (as we say now). ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29832 "2019-01-22T00:00:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Trump probably figured he’d been snubbed when King wasn’t there to greet him. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Or afraid if King showed up, he’d ask to rent an apartment. Or glad that he didn’t show because президент Trump forgot his gift basket with the usual water bottles, bag o’steaks, ties, Trump Eau de Toilette Spray, Vodka… (And maybe a roll of paper towels to boot.) ---
**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29833 "2019-01-22T06:57:37Z")
I had a cheerful thought recently since no one is being paid to inspect our food anymore there is a good chance that Trump could die of salmonella poisoning from one of his ketchup steaks or McDonalds’s hamburders. We might all die, too, but unless he’s gonna be buying all his food from Canada he’s just as at risk as we are. There’s a silver lining in every tragedy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29834 "2019-01-22T15:18:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Red MAGA hats are the new white hoods. I’ve seen videos of Trump in a _white_ MAGA hat the last few days. I guess the point comes next? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29835 "2019-01-22T15:55:46Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > So Rudy G is on Meet the Press this morning once again tearing another hole in this whole Russian Collusion thing: [Giuliani: Trump Tower Moscow negotiations 'as far as October, November' 2016](https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/giuliani-trump-tower-moscow-negotiations-as-far-as-october-november-2016-1429088835567) > > Has anyone seriously considered that maybe Rudy is a double agent working for Bob Mueller? Ala “learn all of Trump’s secrets then go on TV and spill the beans all while claiming you’re ‘defending’ him?” > > I mean it’s either that or Rudy is a certifiable class-A moron, so I get we won’t be sure either way… One wonders how many _mafiosi_ are sitting in prison, wishing they could put out a hit on their lawyers. _“You let THIS guy put me away?”_ ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29836 "2019-01-22T17:20:55Z")
Gotta wonder what Michael Milken thinks, given RudyG pinched him for $1.2 billion for a fake $5 million invoice. ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29837 "2019-01-22T17:39:51Z")
oops ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29838 "2019-01-22T18:27:24Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > oops +1 That really kinda says it all about this clusterfuck of an administration. /close thread ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29839 "2019-01-22T19:38:24Z")
Individual 1 has received a Razzie Award nomination for Worst Actor for both Dinesh D’Souza’s **Birth of a Nation** and Michael Moore’s **Fahrenheit 11/9**. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29840 "2019-01-22T21:03:03Z")
Mitch McConnell’s plan to end the shutdown, based on Individual 1’s “compromise” from his speech the other day: 1300 pages $1 billion plus more for ICE to fund more prosecutions and hire more than 2000 more agents. A $2 million fund to award informants against undocumented residents. Detention beds for 52,000 detainees Bar minors from El Salvador, Guatemala or Honduras from applying for asylum inside the United States, and instead require them to apply at “a Designated Application Processing Center in Central America.” The bill would also restrict the number of Central American minors even allowed to apply for asylum annually to 50,000 per year, and place a 15,000-person cap on the number of asylum applications that could be approved. The bill would also prevent them from applying at the borders, but the application processing centers wouldn’t be open for nine months. The bill would also move the adjudication of asylum cases for Central American minors from the jurisdiction of immigration judges and courts, and instead would be decided by Department of Homeland Security “asylum or refugee officers.” [GOP’s Shutdown ‘Compromise’ Turbocharges ICE, Slashes Asylum Admissions](https://www.thedailybeast.com/gops-shutdown-compromise-turbocharges-ice-slashes-asylum-admissions)? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29841 "2019-01-22T21:06:12Z")
Sounds like basically nobody will ever be granted asylum again under that scheme. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29842 "2019-01-22T21:44:43Z")
That’s the idea. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29843 "2019-01-22T22:17:33Z")
And the application must be filled out in English. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29844 "2019-01-22T23:25:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > …A $2 million fund to award informants against undocumented residents… Of all the goddam motherfucking rotten shit! Whats the going rate, thousand bucks for the parents, two fifty each for the kids? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1491) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1493)