# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29865 "2019-01-23T15:17:46Z")

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Thing is, while ~40% may be his ceiling, at this point you have to say it’s his floor, too.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29866 "2019-01-23T15:20:58Z")

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His worst average polling number on 538 is 36.4% approval, which happened in Dec. 2017. His peak on disapproval is 57.4%, same month.

Just for those watching at home…

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29867 "2019-01-23T15:21:37Z")

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It is beginning to feel like an attack. Hmm, let’s lift sanctions of Russian oligarchs while imposing sanctions on our own country by starving out a bunch of agencies. Only a monument to hate against our closest neighbor can stop it!

I wonder how McConnell (R- ussia) can face his colleagues.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29868 "2019-01-23T15:22:38Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> His worst number on 538 is 36.4% approval, which happened in Dec. 2017. His peak on disapproval is 57.4%, same month.
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> Just for those watching at home…

Who made this survey, CNN or Fox?  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29869 "2019-01-23T15:35:56Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Who made this survey, CNN or Fox?  
> :dubious:

Currently neither, it’s an aggregate.

> **[How We’re Tracking Donald Trump’s Approval Ratings](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-were-tracking-donald-trumps-approval-ratings/)**
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> President Trump’s first real test on the ballot will come 20 months from now, when Republicans face voters at the midterm elections. But those Republicans have …

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29870 "2019-01-23T16:36:43Z")

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Has this been posted yet?

[Trump alters photos to make his fingers look longer](https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-altered-pics-fingers/)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29871 "2019-01-23T17:08:26Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Has this been posted yet?
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> [Trump alters photos to make his fingers look longer](https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-altered-pics-fingers/)

It’s been posted before, but if Trumpelthinskin can obsess over being called a “short-fingered vulgarian” for three decades, surely we can be excused for repeatedly mocking his insecurity for three days.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29872 "2019-01-23T18:24:34Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> His worst average polling number on 538 is 36.4% approval, which happened in Dec. 2017.

Well that’s still a healthy 10% above the [crazification factor](http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29873 "2019-01-23T18:36:17Z")

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Or else the Crazification Factor has risen in recent years.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29874 "2019-01-23T19:18:07Z")

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Individual 1 has sent a letter to the Speaker of the House saying he WILL be making the State of the Union Address FROM the House chamber next Tuesday. Will Pelosi lock him out, or have the sergeant at arms tell him he can’t come in?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29875 "2019-01-23T19:24:07Z")

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Shrug it off. By next Tuesday, who fucking knows? Maybe if he gets a victory to crow about, he’ll sign whatever we put in front of him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29876 "2019-01-23T19:33:31Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Shrug it off. By next Tuesday, who fucking knows? Maybe if he gets a victory to crow about, he’ll sign whatever we put in front of him.

And then whip out an Executive Order rescinding it.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29877 "2019-01-23T19:50:23Z")

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Pelosi sent a letter back to Individual 1 saying, “No, you won’t.”

> **[Pelosi officially disinvites Trump from State of the Union address](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/01/pelosi-cancels-trump-state-of-the-union-1/)**
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> Hours later, the president finally conceded and said he'd deliver the address after the government reopened.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29878 "2019-01-23T19:53:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 has sent a letter to the Speaker of the House saying he WILL be making the State of the Union Address FROM the House chamber next Tuesday.

Got a link for that, Rick?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29879 "2019-01-23T20:00:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Got a link for that, Rick?

> **[After House Blocks SOTU, Trump Announces "Alternative" Event](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/politics/2019/01/23/trump-letter-to-pelosi-state-of-the-union)**
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> Pelosi had called for delay, citing security concerns

But then, she has since sent him another letter saying No.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29880 "2019-01-23T20:13:36Z")

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Individual 1 wanted to give NASA an unlimited amount of money to send humans to Mars before his term ends.

> **[How Trump Offered NASA Unlimited Funding to Put People on Mars by 2020](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html)**
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> “What if I gave you all the money you could ever need?” the president asked a baffled NASA official, according to former aide Cliff Sims.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29881 "2019-01-23T20:24:37Z")

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Note that he didn’t say anything about bringing humans BACK from Mars…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29882 "2019-01-23T20:25:48Z")

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It’s going to devolve to and hand-scrawled note that reads:

NANCY

DO YOU LIKE ME I AM REALLY TREMENDOUS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY SO

YES

NO

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29883 "2019-01-23T20:28:43Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 wanted to give NASA an unlimited amount of money to send humans to Mars before his term ends.  
> [Trump Offered NASA Unlimited Funding to Go to Mars By 2020](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/trump-offered-nasa-unlimited-funding-to-go-to-mars-by-2020.html)

Meanwhile, NASA is staffed by unpaid volunteers, FTTB.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/29884 "2019-01-23T20:48:54Z")

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I-1 has recognized the opposition leader as the legitimate President of Venezuela.

> **[Juan Guaidó: US backs opposition leader as Venezuela president](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46980913)**
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> Donald Trump's move comes as tens of thousands of Venezuelans take part in anti-government protests.

Maduro has ordered all US State department people out of the country.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the\_americas/opposition-launches-protests-to-oust-maduro-as-us-venezuela-tensions-rise/2019/01/22/0416687a-1e4f-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/opposition-launches-protests-to-oust-maduro-as-us-venezuela-tensions-rise/2019/01/22/0416687a-1e4f-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20_story.html)?

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