# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30045 "2019-01-26T20:08:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I observe what you did there.

Just can’t leave good enough alone, can you?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30046 "2019-01-26T20:09:46Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Both of you
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> Go to your rooms
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> Don’t come out until you’re called

Until they’re called what?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30047 "2019-01-26T21:16:29Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Both of you
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> Go to your rooms
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> Don’t come out until you’re called

You’re going to punish kaylasdad99 and eschereal but you’re going to let elucidator get away with his comment!? That is SO unfair.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30048 "2019-01-26T21:17:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Like I’ve said before, it’s Schrodinger’s Wall, where observing it causes its nature to change. It’s Wall except for when it’s a Steel Slat Barrier, and it needs to be built, but it’s also already mostly built, and we need it because there are Caravans coming except for when they aren’t because Wall is already there.
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> Wall is whatever Wall needs to be at the given moment. Do not question Wall.

ROFL

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30049 "2019-01-26T21:18:27Z")

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> [@MN\_Maenad](#):
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> I’m amused at those who still have their heads in the sand. Quoted from the Washington Post article on how this is [splitting the right](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/01/25/trump-caves-or-genius-right-wing-splits-after-trump-ends-shutdown-with-no-wall-funding/?utm_term=.eb6751d021cd):
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> They really want to believe the emperor has clothes, don’t they?

Gorka???

Oh, fuck that Nazi bastard.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30050 "2019-01-26T22:13:11Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Both of you
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> Go to your rooms
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> Don’t come out until you’re called

_ **asahi** started it!_

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30051 "2019-01-26T22:15:32Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> _ **asahi** started it!_

Might as well punish him for it; he’ll feel terrible whether you do or not.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30052 "2019-01-27T00:25:24Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Umm… per Trump… Women are being kidnapped in Mexico and being brought to the US.
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> Um What?

This is a big right-wing talking point, and we can expect it to be hit hard in the next three weeks as the GOP desperately tries to sell the “crisis at the border” story. ‘Women and children are in peril and only a wall can save them; human trafficking is happening at epic levels,’ etc.

For example, the Alabama Attorney General:

> [@](#):
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> “As Alabama’s Attorney General, I am deeply troubled by the steady stream of dangerous illegal drugs entering my state and the impact it has on our citizens and law enforcement. Drug trafficking, human trafficking and many violent crimes committed in Alabama can be traced to criminal elements crossing our country’s borders and the failure of current efforts to secure our border.”

> **[Alabama AG Steve Marshall: Build Trump’s border wall](https://www.al.com/news/2019/01/alabama-ag-steve-marshall-build-trumps-border-wall.html)**
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> Top law enforcement official in Alabama joins chorus of Congressional supporters for Trump's border wall.

Another example: Republican Rep. Debbie Lesko of Arizona:

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> The problem we are dealing with is not just illegal immigration; there are illicit drugs flowing through our borders, human trafficking, and dangerous cartels exploiting vulnerable women and children. The biggest takeaway: We need the wall and the wall will work.

> **[We need the wall, and the wall will work](https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/2018/12/20/we-need-wall-and-wall-work-debbie-lesko/2369708002/)**
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> Rep. Debbie Lesko, R-Ariz., talks about President Trump's plan to build the border wall. She says the problems go beyond illegal immigration.

CRISIS! WOMEN & CHILDREN! WALL ONLY ANSWER!..that will be the drumbeat. Oh, and DEMOCRATS WANT OPEN BORDERS!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30053 "2019-01-27T03:14:07Z")

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I feel like this answers the question whether we’ll be seeing more of Rudy Giuliani on TV:

> **[Trump donates $100,000 from salary to alcoholism research](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427125-trump-donates-100000-from-salary-to-alcoholism-research/)**
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> President Trump has reportedly donated $100,000 from his 2018 salary to an institute that researches alcoholism.The White House confirmed to The Hill Saturday evening that Trump donated $100,0…

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30054 "2019-01-27T03:20:08Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> _But was only fantasy  
> The wall was too high, as you can see  
> No matter how he tried, he could not break free  
> And the worms ate into his brain_

I saw a pic of a sign for Trump that read:

All in all, you’re just another prick with no wall.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30055 "2019-01-27T03:23:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Like I’ve said before, it’s Schrodinger’s Wall, where observing it causes its nature to change. It’s Wall except for when it’s a Steel Slat Barrier, and it needs to be built, but it’s also already mostly built, and we need it because there are Caravans coming except for when they aren’t because Wall is already there.
> 
> Wall is whatever Wall needs to be at the given moment. Do not question Wall.

Wall and Wall! What is Wall !?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30056 "2019-01-27T03:29:02Z")

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Trump could save some money if he went to Walmart. Probably made in China.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30057 "2019-01-27T04:58:21Z")

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Or maybe Wall Drug?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30058 "2019-01-27T05:08:42Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Wall and Wall! What is Wall !?

Street in lower Manhattan where the bulls run rampant profiting as their excrement overwhelms the middle class.

Drugstore/Tourist Trap in South Dakota, as \*\*eschereal \*\*points out.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30059 "2019-01-27T10:17:53Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I feel like this answers the question whether we’ll be seeing more of Rudy Giuliani on TV:
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> [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427125-trump-donates-100000-from-salary-to-alcoholism-research](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427125-trump-donates-100000-from-salary-to-alcoholism-research)

As much as I hate to do this, I have to give Trump credit for the donation. My mother developed into an alcoholic during the last few years of her life. So, begrudgingly, I applaud this move.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30060 "2019-01-27T12:16:34Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> As much as I hate to do this, I have to give Trump credit for the donation. My mother developed into an alcoholic during the last few years of her life. So, begrudgingly, I applaud this move.

(The story is at The Hill website, and is about Trump’s presidential salary being donated to various good causes, with the latest quarterly installment ($100,000) going to an alcohol research institution.)

I can’t quibble with the action as reported, but… I also can’t forget that Trump has a terrible record of lying about charible donations, and about everything else. Hower, for the moment, I’ll move Donnie from 90% amoral traitor to 89.95% amoral traitor.

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**Author:** ![RonPaulWhistleblower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RonPaulWhistleblower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RonPaulWhistleblower)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30061 "2019-01-27T13:46:01Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So their master plan is that Donald Trump is going to fix everything by delivering a speech.
> 
> Have these people ever seen Trump deliver a speech? Trump’s not Reagan or Kennedy. He’s more like your crazy uncle going off a rant.
> 
> I’m guessing the Democrats are looking forward to Trump’s State of the Union. Because one of their strongest weapons is letting Trump be Trump. And letting the public see it.

That is funny because my crazy uncle loves Trump. The only one in the family that adores Trump and his policies is the crazy uncle.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30062 "2019-01-27T14:52:03Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> You’re going to punish kaylasdad99 and eschereal but you’re going to let elucidator get away with his comment!? That is SO unfair.

I was gonna go internet surfing, but my wave collapsed.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30063 "2019-01-27T15:20:14Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Schroedinger’s Wall.

How about a Potempkin wall? Build a mile section near El Paso, Tucson, or some other location near an airport capable of taking Air Force One so he won’t aggravate his bonespurs. 700 feet high so he can dig out that GoT poster again and with TRUMP on it in big letters. You could hire a couple hundred brown-skinned actors to mill around the other side, looking up plaintively and shaking their impotent fists.

Trump comes and sees it, then returns to Mar a Lago content that his legacy is assured. It’s left up even after he out of the White House, one way or another, "as a warning to the next ten generations that some [del]favors[/del] Presidents come with too high a price.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30064 "2019-01-27T15:59:18Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> How about a Potempkin wall? Build a mile section near El Paso, Tucson, or some other location near an airport capable of taking Air Force One so he won’t aggravate his bonespurs. …

This is absolutely brilliant. Beyond the end of the actual wall, we could add paintings with the proper perspective, to give the appearance that it extends to both horizons.

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