# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1506
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30105 "2019-01-29T07:36:31Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Trump needs a pipeline for his sniffling sauce? > > EDIT: Also, why the fuck does Bolton look like he’s got McConnell-like turtle wattles growing in the picture linked? Are the wattles multiplying? Or has he never had a chin? He’s always looked like that. Or at least, in the months I’ve been aware of his existence. I’m sure that at some point he was a normal-looking baby, but that was a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30106 "2019-01-29T09:23:39Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > Holy forking shirtballs! If I had done something like this way back when I was in the military and had a clearance, my ass would have been in jail. As a minimum he should lose his clearance, and therefore his job. > > I suppose there’s a chance he did it on purpose in order to try and scare Venezuela, but this is the Trump clusterfuck we’re talking about. They don’t do subtle. You know, that’s probably it-- doing it on purpose. I doubt we’re sending troops anywhere at this point. Someone said, “Write something the press and libtards will go nuts over!” On the other hand, it probably wasn’t on purpose. The countries weren’t misspelled, right? So it wasn’t Orange Boy… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30107 "2019-01-29T09:48:55Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > How about a Potempkin wall? Build a mile section near El Paso, Tucson, or some other location near an airport capable of taking Air Force One so he won’t aggravate his bonespurs. 700 feet high so he can dig out that GoT poster again and with TRUMP on it in big letters. You could hire a couple hundred brown-skinned actors to mill around the other side, looking up plaintively and shaking their impotent fists. > > Trump comes and sees it, then returns to Mar a Lago content that his legacy is assured. It’s left up even after he out of the White House, one way or another, "as a warning to the next ten generations that some [del]favors[/del] Presidents come with too high a price. > [@jsc1953](#): > > This is absolutely brilliant. Beyond the end of the actual wall, we could add paintings with the proper perspective, to give the appearance that it extends to both horizons. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Just don’t pull a Wile E. Coyote and paint the entrance to a railroad tunnel on it. > [@running\_coach](#): > > You paint a big archway leading to a golf course. Once he [del]walks[/del] rides through, you erase it. [Looks like Junco Canche (currently filling in for Lalo Alcarez drawing _La Cucaracha_ has been reading the Dope…](https://www.gocomics.com/lacucaracha/2019/01/29?ct=v&cti=2043578) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30108 "2019-01-29T12:14:19Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > I suppose there’s a chance he did it on purpose in order to try and scare Venezuela, but this is the Trump clusterfuck we’re talking about. They don’t do subtle. They don’t do _think_. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30109 "2019-01-29T13:43:57Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Acme is the only company to give them credit. Do you have any idea how hard banks laugh at you when you try to apply for a loan for a giant magnet or rocket-propelled roller skates? They should try The Bank of Evil [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/fhTiG3a.jpeg "Bank of Evil") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/fhTiG3a) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30110 "2019-01-29T15:02:02Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Chris Hayes made the point tonight that the only place where one can seem to find duct-taped women and prayer rugs in the desert is in the movie _Sicario: Day of the Soldado_. Rachel Maddow apparently made that point last night, as well: > **[Rachel Maddow: Trump May Have Cooked Up 'Taped Women' From 'Sicario'](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rachel-maddow-suggests-trump-may-have-seen-taped-trafficked-women-on-sicario_n_5c4fdb9ae4b0d9f9be687570)** > > "in any normal administration it would be insane to suggest" this, she concedes. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump has been obsessively repeating a horror tale of trafficked women in cars at the southern border, their mouths taped shut, so they “can’t even breathe.” The problem is that trafficked women and border officials apparently have no idea what he’s talking about. Now Rachel Maddow, along with some media outlets, believe it could be possible that Trump witnessed it with his very own eyes — on the violent movie “Sicario: Day of the Soldado.” > The film shows such a scene at the Mexican border, eerily similar to what Trump has described. There is also a scene of Muslim prayer rugs in the southern desert, which has also popped up in a Trump tweet. He has talked about the smugglers’ amazing cars, just like in the movie. > All are “plot points in the same movie — which is fiction,” Maddow emphasized Monday. > “Now in any normal administration it would be insane to suggest … even joke about the president of the United States seeing stuff in a movie … and maybe thinking it was real — or at least real enough to justify an actual military deployment of thousands of active duty U.S. troops to the border,” she said. Wait – that suggests something. The President of the US seeing something in a movie and thinking it was real? Where have we heard that before? > [@](#): > > This moving tale of the World War II bomber pilot who chose to go down with his disabled plane rather than abandon a trapped gunner in his dying moments has prompted a good deal of philosophical debate: Did the pilot perform a supremely noble and heroic act of self-sacrifice in providing comfort to a dying comrade in the final moments of the latter’s life, or did he needlessly throw away his life (and deprive his side of an experienced pilot) for an inconsequential and transitory benefit? Either way, the vehemence of the debate demonstrates how compelling many have found this anecdote to be. > > As suggested in the example cited above, this tale was a favorite of Ronald Reagan, who repeated it many times during his 1980 presidential campaign. The following excerpt from an April 1980 news report about a Reagan campaign swing through Wisconsin demonstrates how frequently and effectively the actor-turned-politician made use of it: > > … > We can’t say whether Ronald Reagan might have encountered this story somewhere and believed it to be true, whether he saw it in a film and misremembered it as a real-life incident, or whether he simply repeated the anecdote as an inspirational tale without regard for its literal truthfulness. We can verify that the tale was incorporated into the 1944 film Wing and a Prayer, > **[Wing and a Prayer](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wing-and-a-prayer/)** > > Rumor: Pilot of a disabled bomber goes down with the plane to comfort a gunner who is trapped in his turret. one also recalls that Ronald Reagan had played Secret Service agent “Brass” Bancroft in _Murder in the Air_\* (1940). in which a high-tech “inertia Projector” was able to knock down enemy aircraft and missiles from the ground. Some people have suggested that this fed Reagan’s appetite for the high-tech fixes that became the Strategic Defense Initiative, or “Star Wars” Well, Maddow DID say you don’t expect such misremembering fiction as fact from a “normal administration”. \*The previous film, _Secret Service of the Air_, featured high-tech “coyotes” smuggling Mexicans over the border in planes. Maybe Trump should watch it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30111 "2019-01-29T15:07:29Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Rachel Maddow apparently made that point last night, as well: Whoops; yeah, it was Maddow, not Hayes. You’d think I’d be able to tell them apart. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30112 "2019-01-29T15:12:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Whoops; yeah, it was Maddow, not Hayes. You’d think I’d be able to tell them apart. :smack: Chris Hayes is the one that looks like Captain Nice Chris Hayes > **[MSNBC’s Chris Hayes Compares Confirming Kavanaugh To Rape…](https://www.wcbm.com/2018/09/24/msnbcs-chris-hayes-compares-confirming-kavanaugh-to-rape/)** > > MSNBC’s Chris Hayes Compares Confirming Kavanaugh To Rape… Captain Nice (William Daniels) [https://www.google.com/search?q=Captain+Nice&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmlIqZo5PgAhUvSN8KHbRDBRMQ\_AUIDygC&biw=1440&bih=680#imgrc=vO6JtPEg320aFM:&spf=1548774657477](https://www.google.com/search?q=Captain+Nice&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmlIqZo5PgAhUvSN8KHbRDBRMQ_AUIDygC&biw=1440&bih=680#imgrc=vO6JtPEg320aFM:&spf=1548774657477) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30113 "2019-01-29T15:26:45Z")
I always thought he looked like a young Captain Binghamton from _McHale’s Navy_. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30114 "2019-01-29T15:34:48Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Wait – that suggests something. The President of the US seeing something in a movie and thinking it was real? Where have we heard that before? Not to mention those damn war rooms. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30115 "2019-01-29T15:36:47Z")
The previous Republican administration seemed to model its anti-terrorism strategy after “_24_”. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30116 "2019-01-29T15:52:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The previous Republican administration seemed to model its anti-terrorism strategy after “_24_”. [Reagan saw Rambo](http://articles.latimes.com/1985-07-01/news/mn-10009_1_hostage-crisis) and commented “Boy, after seeing ‘Rambo’ last night, I know what to do the next time this happens.” Cal, next time you link to an image, right-click on it and choose “Copy image address.” Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30117 "2019-01-29T19:55:06Z")
Trump’s “spiritual adviser”, Paula White, is telling everybody to send her their first month’s salary. [Donald Trump's Spiritual Adviser Paula White Suggests People Send Her Their January Salary or Face Consequences From God](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228)? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30118 "2019-01-29T20:05:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump’s “spiritual adviser”, Paula White, is telling everybody to send her their first month’s salary. > [Donald Trump's Spiritual Adviser Paula White Suggests People Send Her Their January Salary or Face Consequences From God](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228)? Year-old news. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30119 "2019-01-29T20:05:47Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30120 "2019-01-29T20:25:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Year-old news. I’m sure she needs another round. Being a spiritual charlatan doesn’t come cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30121 "2019-01-29T22:17:27Z")
Just want to point out, again, that she is the celebrity wife of Jonathan Cain, keyboard player for Journey. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30122 "2019-01-29T22:35:47Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > Just want to point out, again, that she is the celebrity wife of Jonathan Cain, keyboard player for Journey. Journey always sucked. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30123 "2019-01-29T22:40:28Z")
True words. People always defended Journey by claiming tha Neil Schon was an awesome guiter player. If he was such an awesome player, how come Journey’s music sucks so much, hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30124 "2019-01-29T23:02:24Z")
Hey! Don’t stop believing! As I write this, it’s only one asylum-seeker (the first) so far, but more will start getting [sent back.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-administration-begins-returning-asylum-seekers-mexico-n964256) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1505) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1507)