# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30125 "2019-01-29T23:37:30Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s “spiritual adviser”, Paula White, is telling everybody to send her their first month’s salary.  
> [Donald Trump's Spiritual Adviser Paula White Suggests People Send Her Their January Salary or Face Consequences From God](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228)?

From the link: “the president’s evangelical advisory committee”

I just don’t have the words to express my outrage that such a committee even exists within the US Government. This is just so fucked up that I can’t believe it’s allowed to be. If you managed to throw out all the other stupid, illegal, immoral, and just plain evil shit that Trump has done, this alone should disqualify him from being President.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30126 "2019-01-29T23:52:19Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> True words. People always defended Journey by claiming tha Neil Schon was an awesome guiter player. If he was such an awesome player, how come Journey’s music sucks so much, hmm?

Lots of talent but not a lot of soul. Steve Perry has a great set of pipes, though.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30127 "2019-01-30T00:13:59Z")

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Rep. Ted Lieu has won the internet today.

> <https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1090379963885338624>

I just became a big fan. So funny.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30128 "2019-01-30T00:34:09Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> Just want to point out, again, that she is the celebrity wife of Jonathan Cain, keyboard player for Journey.

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Journey always sucked.

Ableist.

:flees:

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30129 "2019-01-30T01:21:23Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> True words. People always defended Journey by claiming tha Neil Schon was an awesome guiter player. If he was such an awesome player, how come Journey’s music sucks so much, hmm?

[Here is a good song](https://youtu.be/HYpwmqM-SNk) with Schon carrying one of the more memorable bridges from the '80s. Journey sucked because of writing and production. Schon was apparently just along for the ride.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30130 "2019-01-30T01:24:26Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Rep. Ted Lieu has won the internet today.  
> [https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1090379963885338624](https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1090379963885338624)
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> I just became a big fan. So funny.

Isn’t he marvelous? I’ve been a big fan for some time. Very squared-away guy, with a wicked sharp sense of humor.

His latest is indeed hilarious. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30131 "2019-01-30T01:57:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> John Bolton photographed carrying a yellow notepad discussing the option of sending 5000 troops to Colombia.  
> [John Bolton's Notes Indicate U.S. Troop Deployment An Option On Venezuela | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-bolton-notebook-troops-venezuela_us_5c4f8fcce4b0d9f9be6850e2)?

> [@Locrian](#):
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> You know, that’s probably it-- doing it on purpose. I doubt we’re sending troops anywhere at this point. Someone said, “Write something the press and libtards will go nuts over!” …

> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Rep. Ted Lieu has won the internet today.  
> [https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1090379963885338624](https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1090379963885338624)  
> I just became a big fan. So funny.

Lieu’s response is probably close to universal–most people who are paying attention will have assumed from the moment the news broke that Bolton was displaying that notepad on purpose. Floating the idea of a hot war, so to speak.

Bolton is a noted lover of hot wars. No doubt he wanted to provide some evidence of public enthusiasm for the idea, to persuade Trump and Jared and Stephen Miller that this is the way to go.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30132 "2019-01-30T02:17:53Z")

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Since we’re not having regular press conferences, let’s play a game. Let’s pretend there is one coming up and you are going to be there and guaranteed to ask a question. What would you ask?

You know you’re not going to get the truth unless you rattle him so much he accidentally slips up or doesn’t really understand the honest answer is incriminating. Do you try to trick him? Do you try to anger him? Embarrass him?

I think I’d go mean and low. “Which of your children do you hope gets the least prison time? Do you want Ivana to take care of Javanka’s kids when they’re in prison or are you going to pull strings so they serve time not-simultaneously?”

I mean, it’d be fun to talk about Toad and spray tans and fake hair and stuff, but I feel going after his kids would get the reaction I’d like to see most.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30133 "2019-01-30T03:18:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’m sure she needs another round. Being a spiritual charlatan doesn’t come cheap.

Yeah, she said first month’s takings. It’s a new year and the first month is nearly over…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30134 "2019-01-30T03:34:20Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> Since we’re not having regular press conferences, let’s play a game. Let’s pretend there is one coming up and you are going to be there and guaranteed to ask a question. What would you ask?

“What the fuck is wrong with you people?”

….aaaand that, I suspect, is why I would never cut it as a journalist.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30135 "2019-01-30T04:18:35Z")

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“On December 8, 2018, you publicly stated that there had been ‘no Russian collusion’. Would you be willing to repeat that statement while under oath?”

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30136 "2019-01-30T04:21:55Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Chris Hayes is the one that looks like Captain Nice
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> Chris Hayes
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> [MSNBC’s Chris Hayes Compares Confirming Kavanaugh To Rape… – WCBM TALKRADIO AM 680](http://www.wcbm.com/2018/09/24/msnbcs-chris-hayes-compares-confirming-kavanaugh-to-rape/)

Nope. Chris Hayes is the second coming of Steve Allen.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30137 "2019-01-30T08:11:42Z")

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When is Operation Venuzvelan Freedom kicking off?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30138 "2019-01-30T09:16:19Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> From the link: “the president’s evangelical advisory committee”
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> I just don’t have the words to express my outrage that such a committee even exists within the US Government. This is just so fucked up that I can’t believe it’s allowed to be. If you managed to throw out all the other stupid, illegal, immoral, and just plain evil shit that Trump has done, this alone should disqualify him from being President.

I suspect that committee has more to do with Mike Pence than Donald Trump.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30139 "2019-01-30T13:46:26Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Nope. Chris Hayes is the second coming of Steve Allen.

No way. Hayes hasn’t got Allen’s nose, nor that threatening, imposing look. He looks cute, like Captain Nice.  
I’ll grant that, as a commentator and wit, he has much in common with the Tonight show creator and reputed writer of a zillion songs, but he still _looks_ like Carter Nash.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30140 "2019-01-30T14:29:44Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> Since we’re not having regular press conferences, let’s play a game. Let’s pretend there is one coming up and you are going to be there and guaranteed to ask a question. What would you ask?

I wouldn’t ask him any kind of question that would make him react out of anger. I’d ask him something that would lead him to use his reasoning and logic in front of all America so they can see how truly out-of-touch with reality he is, like “Mr. President, have you ever considered rebuilding the Berlin Wall?”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30141 "2019-01-30T15:42:20Z")

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Like Mr Hayes just fine, only wish he didn’t look like the Pencil Neck Liberal Weenie from Central Casting.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30142 "2019-01-30T16:03:50Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> No way. Hayes hasn’t got Allen’s nose, nor that threatening, imposing look. He looks cute, like Captain Nice.

Captain Nice was also John Adams in **1776**. Not as good as Paul Giamatti, but he was the picture I had in my head for “John Adams” for years.

He was also Dustin Hoffman’s dad in **The Graduate.**

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30143 "2019-01-30T16:31:29Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Captain Nice was also John Adams in **1776**. Not as good as Paul Giamatti, but he was the picture I had in my head for “John Adams” for years.

And KITT in Knight Rider. I saw _1776_ with him as Adams (on July 4th, 1976!) and it was amusing when he became a talking car. I always pictured a very proper elder statesman schooling The Hoff with his superior-sounding “Michael…”.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30144 "2019-01-30T16:34:32Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Captain Nice was also John Adams in **1776**. Not as good as Paul Giamatti, but he was the picture I had in my head for “John Adams” for years.
> 
> He was also Dustin Hoffman’s dad in **The Graduate.**

And Dr. Daniel Craig in _St. Elsewhere_ and the voice of KITT in _Knight Rider_. Dude’s been around.

Edit: ninja’d on the _Knight Rider!_

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