# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1512
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30225 "2019-01-31T23:10:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > A year ago? Ancient history. After all, the man has the attention span of a goldfish (apologies to goldfish). And he’s the same color. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30226 "2019-01-31T23:15:30Z")
But not koi about _anything_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30227 "2019-01-31T23:18:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But not koi about _anything_. Not to carp, but enough with the fish jokes! ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30228 "2019-01-31T23:19:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But not koi about _anything_. _slaps you with a limb trout_ ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30229 "2019-01-31T23:52:06Z")
Amusingly, even though the Dow was down on the day, the broader market was higher. All dozen or so of my mutual funds were up, which includes all different capitalization sizes and international and real estate. It’s only because the Dow is a very small cross-section of industrial stocks, a few of which posted poor earnings reports that led to a slide in their stock price, that the narrow index was down. The Dow is also price-weighted, not market-cap weighted, so if somehow a $10,000 stock entered the Dow, nearly 1/3 of the entire index’s movement would be due to that stock, even if it only had 1,000 shares outstanding, while a $10 stock with 5 billion shares outstanding would be barely given any weight. But the Dow has history and that’s what people know. Plus the numbers are bigger! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30230 "2019-02-01T00:04:17Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > One of the absolute classics. Daniels will be turning 92 at the end of March. Long may he snark. One more bit of hijack: And to add to what you said about _The President’s Analyst_: yes, it’s very 1960s, but I’d say that having lived through that era isn’t necessary—except maybe for understanding the plot point about The Phone Company. It’s not quite as dark as _Network_, but those who liked _Network_ will like this. So will Beatles fans, fans of hippies, spy stories, better US-Soviet relations, and monologues by Godfrey Cambridge. It’s caviar for those who love satire, as well as those who consider paranoia about our surveillance culture to be the only sensible position. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30231 "2019-02-01T01:15:24Z")
Well wouldn’t this just make everything awesome :dubious:: [President Donald Trump has met with Herman Cain about an opening on the Federal Reserve’s board of governors.](https://apnews.com/ff622308ef3947e2807f2cad7f8b569e) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30232 "2019-02-01T12:11:18Z")
For those who can stomach it, here’s a piece on thump’s interview with the [New York Times.](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBT1EvB?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare) No surprises, just the usual Donnie being Donnie. He loves being president, but financially, the job is a “loser.” Yeah, that’s what it’s all about. :dubious: Here are some [transcripted excerpts](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/us/politics/trump-interview-transcripts.html?module=inline) for the strong ones among us. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30233 "2019-02-01T16:27:37Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Man, I wish Hillary would stop messing with the Dow… > [@dasmoocher](#): > > The point of the article I posted in #30190 was that the Dow broke 25000 last January and Trump was bragging about it. The Dow is basically where it was a year ago. Using the [data readily available at Yahoo](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history?period1=1391187600&period2=1548954000&interval=1d&filter=history&frequency=1d) I discover that since the Inauguration there have been 296 days when DJIA rose open-to-open; the average gain on those days was 120.1 points. There have also been 214 down days, residuals from the Obama Nightmare, when the DJIA declined an average of 142 points each day. Simple arithmetic proves that the Dow would now be sitting pretty at 60,513 points without the ghosts of Hillary and Hussein casting dark shadows on the stock market. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30234 "2019-02-01T16:44:37Z")
OK, I’m totally confused. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/russia-vows-to-respond-after-trump-pulls-out-of-missile-treaty](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/russia-vows-to-respond-after-trump-pulls-out-of-missile-treaty) > [@Bloomberg](#): > > Accusing Russia of violating the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, President Donald Trump Friday announced the U.S. is suspending its obligations under the agreement and beginning the six-month process of formal withdrawal. After basically kissing Putin’s ass for his entire term, now the Presidential Pustule decides to blow up the INF treaty? What’s really going on here? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30235 "2019-02-01T16:46:44Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > OK, I’m totally confused. > > [Russia Vows to Respond After Trump Pulls Out of Missile Treaty - Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/russia-vows-to-respond-after-trump-pulls-out-of-missile-treaty) > > After basically kissing Putin’s ass for his entire term, now the Presidential Pustule decides to blow up the INF treaty? What’s really going on here? Maybe Putin wants out of the treaty but doesn’t want to take the heat for it. So, he asks his buddy. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30236 "2019-02-01T16:47:35Z")
Putin wants out of the treaty, so Cheeto-Baby is blowing it up for him. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30237 "2019-02-01T16:50:56Z")
If he pulls out, then Putin can pull out scot-free. He’s still being Putin’s patsy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30238 "2019-02-01T16:55:11Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Maybe Putin wants out of the treaty but doesn’t want to take the heat for it. So, he asks his buddy. > [@silenus](#): > > Putin wants out of the treaty, so Cheeto-Baby is blowing it up for him. Exceptional minds engage in parallel thought processes. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30239 "2019-02-01T16:58:51Z")
Yep, still Putin’s bitch. After we pull out, Vlad can build his doomsday device without any pesky treaty standing in his way. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30240 "2019-02-01T17:00:13Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > If he pulls out, then Putin can pull out scot-free. He’s still being Putin’s patsy. I’m still wishing that Fred Trump had pulled out. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30241 "2019-02-01T17:04:44Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > If he pulls out, then Putin can pull out scot-free. He’s still being Putin’s patsy. No Patsy. No Patsy. You’re the patsy! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30242 "2019-02-01T17:15:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > For those who can stomach it, here’s a piece on thump’s interview with the [New York Times.](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBT1EvB?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare) No surprises, just the usual Donnie being Donnie. He loves being president, but financially, the job is a “loser.” Yeah, that’s what it’s all about. :dubious: > > Here are some [transcripted excerpts](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/us/politics/trump-interview-transcripts.html?module=inline) for the strong ones among us. Some of my favorite lines: “So there’s been more of a burden on me than other presidents.” “We had all of our secretaries, many of our secretaries here, probably half of them.” “What’s more important than The New York Times? Ok, nothing, nothing.” “I think it was sent to almost like a public address for Moscow.” I did have to read what I said. What did I say? I don’t know. What did I say?" ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30243 "2019-02-01T17:23:09Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I’m still wishing that Fred Trump had pulled out. You mean Frederick Trumpf, right? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30244 "2019-02-01T18:35:30Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I’m still wishing that Fred Trump had pulled out. 3½ years ago in [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner): That April, Ivana began to tell her friends that she was worried about Donald’s state of mind. She had been completely humiliated by Donald through his public association with Marla Maples. “ **How can you say you love us? You don’t love us! You don’t even love yourself. You just love your money** ,” twelve-year-old Donald junior told his father, according to friends of Ivana’s. “ **What kind of son have I created?** ” Trump’s mother, Mary, is said to have asked Ivana. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1511) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1513)