# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1515
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30285 "2019-02-02T08:48:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > To paraphrase The Master, once you’ve had fried chicken, watermelon and pecan pie, you know what they eat in Heaven. Chicken I’ve had, obviously, but I’ve never tried fried watermelon and pecan pie. I’ll give it a shot. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30286 "2019-02-02T09:39:17Z")
That one Mexican restaurant that used to be in Taos had the most wonderful fried ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30287 "2019-02-02T13:32:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > To paraphrase The Master, once you’ve had fried chicken, watermelon and pecan pie, you know what they eat in Heaven. It took nearly five years, but Mrs Magill and I finally got to Hattie B’s. Holy moly, that’s good chicken. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30288 "2019-02-02T14:04:50Z")
Okay, people. Focus! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30289 "2019-02-02T14:45:05Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Nitpick: the bridge over Lake Havasu called London Bridge is an entirely new structure. Only the facing stones were taken from the bridge in London. Well, the whole structure was brought over but only the outer layer of stone was used over a concrete core. The rest of the rock was sawn into one-inch cubes and handed out/sold as souvenirs. My folks owned property in Lake Havasu City, bought when it first was developed, and got one for free. It was promptly lost. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30290 "2019-02-02T15:52:54Z")
We’ve got a newcomer? Let’s explain about _“Cite?”_, a frequent request here at SDMB. > [@Airbeck](#): > > “The Media” is not a single organization that all makes decision as one. So asking what “The Media” would do is as non-nonsensical as asking what the American public are going to have for dinner tonight. I’m afraid we’ll need a cite for that. I Google “Soros Illuminati controls the media -conspiracy” and get over 200,000 hits. Note the “-conspiracy” option to get rid of the crackpot sites. [Here’s just one of the hits](https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/biography/item/25189-george-soros-the-god-who-should-be-jailed). Soros (“the Lord of Chaos”) thinks he’s a God; he controls dozens of media outlets. Among the “charities” he gives money to is the ACLU. He has caused a tsunami in Europe and is colluding with Hillary, and Obama to swamp the U.S. under a flood of Muslims. He helps fund the Global warming hoax. Just read the comments on the page I linked to. It will make you sick. So: No, I know this is the Pit but we’ll still need a cite for the claim that George Soros doesn’t control all the media (except a few lonely truthtellers; he even shut down Infowars). I won’t need you to refute _all_ 200,000 hits. How about even the top 20 or 30 hits? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30291 "2019-02-02T18:09:10Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > We’ve got a newcomer? Let’s explain about _“Cite?”_, a frequent request here at SDMB. > > I’m afraid we’ll need a cite for that. I Google “Soros Illuminati controls the media -conspiracy” and get over 200,000 hits. Note the “-conspiracy” option to get rid of the crackpot sites. > [Here’s just one of the hits](https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/biography/item/25189-george-soros-the-god-who-should-be-jailed). Soros (“the Lord of Chaos”) thinks he’s a God; he controls dozens of media outlets. Among the “charities” he gives money to is the ACLU. He has caused a tsunami in Europe and is colluding with Hillary, and Obama to swamp the U.S. under a flood of Muslims. He helps fund the Global warming hoax. > > Just read the comments on the page I linked to. It will make you sick. > > So: No, I know this is the Pit but we’ll still need a cite for the claim that George Soros doesn’t control all the media (except a few lonely truthtellers; he even shut down Infowars). I won’t need you to refute _all_ 200,000 hits. How about even the top 20 or 30 hits? Is this a joke? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30292 "2019-02-02T18:25:12Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Among the “charities” he gives money to is the ACLU. He has caused a tsunami in Europe and is colluding with Hillary, and Obama to swamp the U.S. under a flood of Muslims. He helps fund the Global warming hoax. > > Just read the comments on the page I linked to. It will make you sick. > > So: No, I know this is the Pit but we’ll still need a cite for the claim that George Soros doesn’t control all the media (except a few lonely truthtellers; he even shut down Infowars). I won’t need you to refute _all_ 200,000 hits. How about even the top 20 or 30 hits? So what do we get from the first link? (That site BTW is like crackpot central) > [@](#): > > George Soros, who fancies himself a god and intends to remake the world, is the Lord of Chaos and pursues a world order that is demonic, not divine. :rolleyes: Uh, at first it looked as if you did find that that “control” is not on the side of Soros, there is indeed a lot of control of the media coming from the right wing or corporate entities that are **against** Soros. But when you claim that Infowars told the truth and that Global warming is a hoax, then I have to say: Dude, what is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30293 "2019-02-02T18:54:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > We’ve got a newcomer? Let’s explain about _“Cite?”_, a frequent request here at SDMB. > > I’m afraid we’ll need a cite for that. I Google “Soros Illuminati controls the media -conspiracy” and get over 200,000 hits. Note the “-conspiracy” option to get rid of the crackpot sites. > [Here’s just one of the hits](https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/biography/item/25189-george-soros-the-god-who-should-be-jailed). Soros (“the Lord of Chaos”) thinks he’s a God; he controls dozens of media outlets. Among the “charities” he gives money to is the ACLU. He has caused a tsunami in Europe and is colluding with Hillary, and Obama to swamp the U.S. under a flood of Muslims. He helps fund the Global warming hoax. > > Just read the comments on the page I linked to. It will make you sick. > > So: No, I know this is the Pit but we’ll still need a cite for the claim that George Soros doesn’t control all the media (except a few lonely truthtellers; he even shut down Infowars). I won’t need you to refute _all_ 200,000 hits. How about even the top 20 or 30 hits? > [@Airbeck](#): > > Is this a joke? Yes. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > So what do we get from the first link? (That site BTW is like crackpot central) > :rolleyes: > > Uh, at first it looked as if you did find that that “control” is not on the side of Soros, there is indeed a lot of control of the media coming from the right wing or corporate entities that are **against** Soros. But when you claim that Infowars told the truth and that Global warming is a hoax, then I have to say: > > Dude, what is wrong with you? See above. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30294 "2019-02-02T18:58:05Z")
I know sometimes the Dope feels like [del]a hive mind[/del] The Borg, but subtle sarcasm/humor REALLY needs a footnote or some kind of explanation. We don’t always know exactly what each other is thinking, kwim? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30295 "2019-02-02T19:03:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know sometimes the Dope feels like [del]a hive mind[/del] The Borg, but subtle sarcasm/humor REALLY needs a footnote or some kind of explanation. We don’t always know exactly what each other is thinking, kwim? True, but if someone such as, say, YOU had submitted **septimus** ’s post above, I don’t imagine there would be any need to take precautions against stumbling into Poe’s Law. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30296 "2019-02-02T19:21:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > True, but if someone such as, say, YOU had submitted **septimus** ’s post above, I don’t imagine there would be any need to take precautions against stumbling into Poe’s Law. Oh well, bitten by Poe. Sorry about that then **septimus**. > **[I'm just a Poe Boy | Bohemian Rhapsody](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1181592-bohemian-rhapsody)** > > See more 'Bohemian Rhapsody' images on Know Your Meme! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30297 "2019-02-02T19:26:57Z")
Hey, to be fair, when **septimus** really cranks it up, it’s fucking Poe’s Law To The Max sometimes. More than once I’ve found my hackles raising only to realize that, hey, waitaminnit, 😕 don’t I remember this other stuff **septimus** wrote and he seemed really cool and laid back… :smack: D’oh! He got me again! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30298 "2019-02-02T19:43:22Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Hey, to be fair, when **septimus** really cranks it up, it’s fucking Poe’s Law To The Max sometimes. More than once I’ve found my hackles raising only to realize that, hey, waitaminnit, 😕 don’t I remember this other stuff **septimus** wrote and he seemed really cool and laid back… > > :smack: > > D’oh! He got me again! I can usually sort out such, especially by remembering poster history. What gets me is when I think that someone is posting something satirical :p, I laugh a bit:D, and then realize that they are being serious:smack:. “Ancient Erudite” comes to mind, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30299 "2019-02-02T21:13:34Z")
Does Soros control _Time_ magazine? [nothing to see here](http://time.com/5518947/donald-trump-intelligence-briefings-national-security/?xid=tcoshare) (emphases mine) \*In the wake of (CFSG)’s renewed attacks … senior intelligence briefers are breaking two years of silence to warn that (he) is endangering American security with … stubborn disregard … Citing multiple in-person episodes, these intelligence officials say (Shitgibbon) **displays what one called “willful ignorance”** when presented with analyses generated by … intelligence services. … briefers themselves, describe futile attempts to keep his attention … … Two intelligence officers even reported that they have been warned to avoid giving the President intelligence assessments that [contradict stances he has taken in public](http://time.com/5518174/trump-claims-same-page-intelligence-chiefs/). … the Directors of National Intelligence, the CIA and the FBI contradicted Trump on issues relating to North Korea, Russia, the Islamic State, and Iran. In response, Trump said the intelligence chiefs were “passive and naïve” and suggested they “should go back to school.” … in preparation for a meeting with British Prime Minister Theresa May, for example, the subject turned to the British Indian Ocean Territory of Diego Garcia. The island is home to an important airbase and a U.S. Naval Support Facility … (Clusterfuckhead) asked two questions: **[COLOR=“DarkOrange”]Are the people nice, and are the beaches good?**\*[/COLOR] Honestly, when will our patience run thin enough to snap? Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30300 "2019-02-03T00:05:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Good news, everybody: [Skeptic on radiation limits will head EPA radiation panel](https://apnews.com/78752620f7124421b69a9bb80a9c3108)! > > > [@](#): > > > > Acting EPA head Andrew Wheeler on Thursday announced the appointment of Brant Ulsh, a health physicist, as one of the EPA’s science advisers and the panel chairman. Ulsh has been a leading critic of the EPA’s decades-old position that exposure to any amount of ionizing radiation is a cancer risk. > > > > In a paper he co-wrote last year, Ulsh and a colleague argued that the position was based on outdated scientific information and forced the “unnecessary burdens of costly clean-ups” on facilities working with radiation. Sounds like a really committed believer. And there’s a way he can prove to us all that his beliefs are true! Just install some of that radiation-emitting equipment that the bad old EPA has been regulating, right in his own office. Make sure he’s getting plenty of rads each day. Don’t just talk the talk—walk the walk! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30301 "2019-02-03T02:37:34Z")
Re Dirgo Garcia. Are the beaches good? Not bad at all, but you have to swim in the lagoon, not on the other side of the island. Are the people nice? Well, they [got screwed over pretty hard and there are no more locals on the island](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNfXK6QpqY). ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30302 "2019-02-03T07:56:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know sometimes the Dope feels like [del]a hive mind[/del] The Borg, but subtle sarcasm/humor REALLY needs a footnote or some kind of explanation. We don’t always know exactly what each other is thinking, kwim? > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > True, but if someone such as, say, YOU had submitted **septimus** ’s post above, I don’t imagine there would be any need to take precautions against stumbling into Poe’s Law. I feel duly shamed and have amended my .sig. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30303 "2019-02-03T08:36:35Z")
That link you posted was off the map. How can people write shit like that? And then just fucking put it on the web, where anyone can see it? Have they no sense of shame? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30304 "2019-02-03T08:44:34Z")
Sometimes you eat a bad oyster and you need to get rid of it ASAP…\* \*kidding. When ingested, ALL oysters are bad; not being made out of food, they are fit only for use as pearl factories and props in inappropriate hazing rituals.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1514) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1516)