# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3021 "2017-04-05T13:09:39Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Hey Okie, can you guess who made the following tweets?  
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You, Sir, have just set a new standard for “SMACKDOWN”.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3022 "2017-04-05T13:15:43Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Who says Trump hasn’t distinguished himself in any way? (My bold.)
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> “President Trump’s Record-Low Approval Rating Continues to Slide”  
> [President Trump’s 100 Days of Record-Low Approval Ratings - The New York Times](https://nyti.ms/2m1SPtW)
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> WTG, Mr. President!

To paraphrase Stephen Colbert, doesn’t this mean 62% approve of the job he’s not doing? Winning so bigly, he must be getting tired.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3023 "2017-04-05T13:16:33Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So was Trump wrong then, or is he wrong now?

Trump was right when he urged Obama to stay out of Syria. He’s wrong about most other things.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3024 "2017-04-05T13:20:25Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You’re contorting so hard to defend your guy that you’re going to end up with your head tucked up your ass

They say imitation is the sincerest for of sycophancy.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3025 "2017-04-05T13:23:45Z")

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Y’know, ISTM the “in the Making” part of the thread title is fast becoming superfluous.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3026 "2017-04-05T13:27:47Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So was Trump wrong then, or is he wrong now?

You can’t go by his words, you have to go by what was in his heart. And in his heart his was right then and he’s right now.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3027 "2017-04-05T13:29:55Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You’re contorting so hard to defend your guy that you’re going to end up with your head tucked up your ass

What makes you think that’s not Okie’s starting position?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3028 "2017-04-05T13:51:10Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Y’know, ISTM the “in the Making” part of the thread title is fast becoming superfluous.

As the creator of this thread, I was just thinking that the other day myself. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3029 "2017-04-05T13:55:36Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You can’t go by his words, you have to go by what was in his heart. And in his heart his was right then and he’s right now.

Gosh. I didn’t even realize he had a heart.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3030 "2017-04-05T15:30:55Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Gosh. I didn’t even realize he had a heart.

He doesn’t. The only organs he has are skin and eyes. Internally, it’s nothing but untreated sewage

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3031 "2017-04-05T15:51:03Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So was Trump wrong then, or is he wrong now?

Trump 2017 shouldn’t be held accountable for what Trump 2013 tweeted. Heck, Trump Wednesday morning shouldn’t be held accountable for what Tuesday night Trump tweeted.

Every day, like a pheonix, a new Trump arises from the ashes of the old Trump. Reborn with none of the baggage of any of the things his previous incarnation said or did. This is how he can get away with saying things like he never promised he would [repeal Obamacare quickly.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/24/trump_says_he_never_promised_to_repeal_obamacare_quickly_a_list_of_times.html)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3032 "2017-04-05T16:00:55Z")

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How’s that plan to defeat ISIS coming along? Has Trump told the generals what to do, since he’s smarter than them, or has he demanded that the generals come up with an amazing plan, since they’re really smart?

I think that Trump honestly thought that Obama was deliberately keeping ISIS going by not allowing a simple plan from the military to be put into place. I really do think that Trump thinks that every solution is simple, and only needs a Strong Man Leader to Tell People What To Do.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3033 "2017-04-05T16:03:43Z")

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[Bannon is out!](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/bannon-removed-from-national-security-council-role-in-shakeup)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3034 "2017-04-05T16:05:26Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Bannon is out!](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/bannon-removed-from-national-security-council-role-in-shakeup)

Out of the NSC. That’s a decent start.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3035 "2017-04-05T16:21:01Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Every day, like a pheonix, a new Trump arises from the ashes of the old Trump. Reborn with none of the baggage of any of the things his previous incarnation said or did.

[Dark Phoenix Trump?](https://twitter.com/StarCoreOne02/status/797942602054115328) It would explain the hair.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Bannon is out!](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/bannon-removed-from-national-security-council-role-in-shakeup)

There are more frequent reorganizations in this cabinet than of the deck chairs on the _RMS Titanic_, and the ship of state is being piloted with the same degree of deft navigation as that fine vessel, with Trump on the bowsprit shouting, “I’m king of the world!”

I sincerely hope this has ruined the film by association for everyone involved.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3036 "2017-04-05T16:26:24Z")

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I thought bannon was only on it because cheeto didn’t read his own executive order putting him there.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3037 "2017-04-05T16:28:10Z")

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Getting Bannon out is a start. Sending him to Fort Leavenworth would be a good finish.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3038 "2017-04-05T16:32:23Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> As the creator of this thread, I was just thinking that the other day myself. :dubious:

Eh, any poststructutalist social scientist can tell you it’s all about process. Becoming, not being. Even a fully formed clusterfuck is in a constant state of renewal, of evolution, of emergence, of reproduction…yes, _in the making_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3039 "2017-04-05T16:33:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Sending him to Fort Leavenworth would be a good finish.

Leavenworth is a prison, Republicans don’t go to prison. They go to Club Fed, where the most onerous burden is a chef who cannot make a decent white sauce.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3040 "2017-04-05T16:34:12Z")

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Nah, prison is too good for him. I have a better idea; let’s evacuate Gary, Indiana and built a fifty foot high containment wall around it…

Stranger

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