# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30425 "2019-02-10T21:19:43Z")

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Hey, folks, will someone please start a separate Randy Rainbow thread?

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30426 "2019-02-11T01:40:23Z")

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I wish Trump would axe the chairman of the FCC and appoint [Mancow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancow_Muller) to that post. It’s always tickled me what a [loving Christian](https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20190125/mancow-speaking-my-truth-to-harvest-bible-chapels-pastor-james) Mancow is. I’m sure he’d exercise self-restraint and not offend his devout brethren.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30427 "2019-02-11T01:48:14Z")

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Mancow is an idiot fucking jackass, so he’d fit right in with Trump and the rest.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30428 "2019-02-11T02:45:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Mancow is an idiot fucking jackass, so he’d fit right in with Trump and the rest.

The one time I wish we had a “Like” button…

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30429 "2019-02-11T03:43:10Z")

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I wonder if Trump would even know who Mancow is if someone brought him up? Despite sometimes appearing on Fox and Alex Jones, the only thing he’s gotten any major attention from in the last decade-plus was when they demonstrated “waterboarding” on him and he bailed almost as quickly as Mr. Bone Spurs would. It’s depressing how huge that guy was in the Chicago market in the early 2000s.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30430 "2019-02-11T20:42:32Z")

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The National Enquirer actually contacted the Department of Justice to ask them if they should register as an agent for a foreign government because of their publishing of an entire issue slathering the Saudi government with praise. The DOJ said, “nah.”  
[WSJ: National Enquirer Publisher Asked DOJ If It Should Register As Saudi Agent - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/wsj-national-enquirer-publisher-asked-doj-if-it-should-register-as-saudi-agent)?

This is just me putting things together, but since Khashoggi was a Washington Post reporter, and Jeff Bezos is trying to ferret out all of the details of his murder, and since Saudi is responsible, and since the National Enquirer just went through multi million debt reconciliation with an unknown sponsor, could that sponsor have been the Saudi government, and could the Enquirer be going after Bezos not just because he’s on Trump’s enemies list, but also because he’s on Saudi’s enemies list?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30431 "2019-02-11T22:51:45Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The National Enquirer actually contacted the Department of Justice to ask them if they should register as an agent for a foreign government because of their publishing of an entire issue slathering the Saudi government with praise. The DOJ said, “nah.”  
> [WSJ: National Enquirer Publisher Asked DOJ If It Should Register As Saudi Agent - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/wsj-national-enquirer-publisher-asked-doj-if-it-should-register-as-saudi-agent)?
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> This is just me putting things together, but since Khashoggi was a Washington Post reporter, and Jeff Bezos is trying to ferret out all of the details of his murder, and since Saudi is responsible, and since the National Enquirer just went through multi million debt reconciliation with an unknown sponsor, could that sponsor have been the Saudi government, and could the Enquirer be going after Bezos not just because he’s on Trump’s enemies list, but also because he’s on Saudi’s enemies list?

It’s not just you.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30432 "2019-02-12T00:11:02Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/markblei/status/1092438151354826752?fbclid=IwAR2guEn8A6wV4-MMfCOWDpKM_iPXt7K4kabbE18nES6LtCfyBUERWw1bK6o>

This is massive political malpractice. Obama screwed this up too, but Trump and the GOP have bungled it even worse.

Oddly enough, Dubya got the politics right: if you want to curry favor with the voters using a tax cut, you send them rebate checks. You don’t just bury the money in their weekly paychecks, where each bit is relatively small and not noticed (even though economists will tell you it’s the most effective approach for Keynesian stimulus); and you certainly don’t set them up for an unpleasant surprise on April 15, when they find out their counted-on refund will be smaller than last year!

But even though Dubya’s presidency immediately preceded Obama and Trump, they failed to learn from his example. Strange.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30433 "2019-02-12T00:15:50Z")

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Lol, I was going to ask why you’re quoting cinephiliac w/o attribution… and then I looked closer. 😉

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30434 "2019-02-12T01:09:56Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Lol, I was going to ask why you’re quoting cinephiliac w/o attribution… and then I looked closer. 😉

LOL…although looking at it, I’d say I paraphrased myself more than directly quoting myself. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30435 "2019-02-12T14:28:44Z")

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Since the prime instigator, IMHO, of this incident is the Twerp-in-Chief, I figure this is the place to put this:

[**Donald Trump Supporter Launches ‘Incredibly Violent Attack’ On BBC Cameraman At El Paso Rally**](https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-supporter-launches-apos-incredibly-105355973.html).

Yeah. That’s what we need. Presidential campaign rallies with people listening to an idiot who just happens to be the president and then doing what he clearly enjoys having them do. It’s not just that jackass in the crowd attacking the media.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30436 "2019-02-12T14:43:32Z")

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Another article on Trump’s El Paso rally:

**Trump pretended that Congress hadn’t just demolished his wall**

_Analysis: Lawmakers refused to authorize funding to pay for the president’s big campaign promise. Then he took the stage in El Paso._

> [@](#):
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> Trump was undeterred by the new information on Monday night.
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> “They said that progress is being made with this committee,” he said at the rally. “Just so you know, we’re building the wall anyway.”
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> …
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> He also continued to say Democrats are for open borders, even as they had just agreed to spend billions of dollars more on border security.
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> “The Democrat Party has never been more outside the mainstream,” he said. “They’re becoming the party of socialism, late-term abortion, open borders and crime.”
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> That is to say, logic and the facts weren’t the strong suit of his argument.
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> But it’s understandable that Trump — who gave a shoutout to the Alamo during his remarks — didn’t want to turn the spectacle of his first big campaign rally of the presidential election season into an acknowledgment that he had just suffered another stinging defeat on the central promise of his last campaign.
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> By all accounts, including his own, he had been looking forward to this moment. There can be little doubt that, after watching Democrats pile into the presidential race over the last couple of months, Trump had been more than ready to let loose. And, as he said Monday night, it was **“more fun”** to go to a campaign rally than to deliver his State of the Union address last week.
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> The next part — the reality of Congress outright rejecting his wall yet again — promises to be a lot less fun.

[my bold]

“more fun”

As it’s been pointed out, Trump doesn’t seem to actually want to be president, he just wants to play one on TV and at rallies. And then spend hours watching cable news coverage of them. Does he actually do any real work?

There were “Finish the Wall” signs at the rally, since it appears he wants his base to think he’s actually accomplished something on the wall when reports are that no new sections of the wall have been built, just existing parts repaired.

I wonder how much of his base still believes he’s a great businessman and negotiator?

That’s why a lot of Trumppets I know voted for him.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30437 "2019-02-12T14:46:16Z")

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The BBC. This is damned embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30438 "2019-02-12T16:35:22Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> As it’s been pointed out, Trump doesn’t seem to actually want to be president, he just wants to play one on TV and at rallies. And then spend hours watching cable news coverage of them. Does he actually do any real work?

It’s better that he doesn’t. It’s called “Executive Time” on his official daily schedule, btw.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30439 "2019-02-12T16:37:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It’s better that he doesn’t. It’s called “Executive Time” on his official daily schedule, btw.

It’s called “Goofing Off” on mine.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30440 "2019-02-12T16:45:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Since the prime instigator, IMHO, of this incident is the Twerp-in-Chief, I figure this is the place to put this:
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> [**Donald Trump Supporter Launches ‘Incredibly Violent Attack’ On BBC Cameraman At El Paso Rally**](https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-supporter-launches-apos-incredibly-105355973.html).
> 
> Yeah. That’s what we need. Presidential campaign rallies with people listening to an idiot who just happens to be the president and then doing what he clearly enjoys having them do. It’s not just that jackass in the crowd attacking the media.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that “security” is just a big dude in a MAGA hat?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30441 "2019-02-12T16:49:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that “security” is just a big dude in a MAGA hat?

Troubling/depressing/distressing? Yes. But odd? No.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30442 "2019-02-12T17:13:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It’s better that he doesn’t. It’s called “Executive Time” on his official daily schedule, btw.

Yep. Apparently 60% of his workday:

[Axios: Since midterms, Trump has spent nearly 60% of his scheduled time in unstructured ‘executive time’](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/03/politics/trump-executive-time-schedules/index.html)

But don’t worry:

[Trump responds to leaked schedules, says ‘Executive Time’ is ‘a positive, not a negative’](https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/usa_today/trump-responds-to-leaked-schedules-says-executive-time-is-a/article_c639ebe6-9590-5840-94ab-50322dd4e449.html)

> [@](#):
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> The report triggered a wave of outrage and indignation from people who claimed the schedule showed that the president was spending most of his time watching Fox News, firing off tweets or chatting on the phone.
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> Not so, the president explained. In fact, “Executive Time” should be “reported as a positive, not negative,” he said.
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> “When the term Executive Time is used, I am generally working, not relaxing. In fact, I probably work more hours than almost any past President,” Trump tweeted.
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> He followed up with another tweet explaining that when he took office, the U.S. was such “a mess” that he “had no choice but to work very long hours!”

I believe Trump also said he was the hardest working president in history. It’s not like Lincoln or FDR had any messes to deal with. I bet FDR spent a lot of time listening to the radio coverage of him and Lincoln probably sat around reading personal telegrams.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30443 "2019-02-12T17:32:59Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> I believe Trump also said he was the hardest working president in history.

‘We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.’ – [Ascribed to] Benjamin Franklin.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30444 "2019-02-12T17:40:59Z")

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Maybe hes praying.

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