# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1523
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30445 "2019-02-12T18:23:32Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > Maybe hes praying. Preying, more like. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30446 "2019-02-12T18:34:42Z")
Well, it appears that congressional negotiators have reached an agreement to avoid a government shutdown. Trump of course does not like this, and says that if he refuses to sign off on this deal agreed to by Congress, then it is the Democrat’s fault. Is there anyone outside of the Maga-capped mouth breathers who thinks this makes one iota of sense? Both parties in Congress agrees on a deal, and Trump tries to blame one party if he himself refuses to sign? Any Republican supporter here care to defend this? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30447 "2019-02-12T18:50:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, it appears that congressional negotiators have reached an agreement to avoid a government shutdown. > > Trump of course does not like this, and says that if he refuses to sign off on this deal agreed to by Congress, then it is the Democrat’s fault. > > Is there anyone outside of the Maga-capped mouth breathers who thinks this makes one iota of sense? Both parties in Congress agrees on a deal, and Trump tries to blame one party if he himself refuses to sign? > > Any Republican supporter here care to defend this? Hey - he was willing to compromise - he would sign the bill IF the democrats gave him what he wanted - but if they don’t, its their fault. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30448 "2019-02-12T19:06:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, it appears that congressional negotiators have reached an agreement to avoid a government shutdown. > > Trump of course does not like this, and says that if he refuses to sign off on this deal agreed to by Congress, then it is the Democrat’s fault. > > Is there anyone outside of the Maga-capped mouth breathers who thinks this makes one iota of sense? Both parties in Congress agrees on a deal, and Trump tries to blame one party if he himself refuses to sign? > > Any Republican supporter here care to defend this? He also says he is adding things to the bill. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30449 "2019-02-12T19:08:28Z")
At Individual 1’s rally last night, there was a woman standing behind him who was wearing a Green Bay Packers shirt (what she was doing in Texas, I have no idea). She applauded wildly when he criticized Socialism. The Packers are publicly owned. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30450 "2019-02-12T19:09:06Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > He also says he is adding things to the bill. :smack: Doesn’t he mean Stephen Miller is adding things to the bill? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30451 "2019-02-12T19:16:35Z")
Individual 1 now says he wants his military parade on the 4th of July. I can just imagine hundreds of thousands of people showing up to watch a parade in Washington, DC in the middle of July, all passing out from heatstroke. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30452 "2019-02-12T19:19:50Z")
Individual 1’s campaign staff is trying to silence ex-aide Cliff Sims for publishing a book despite his non-disclosure agreement. Sims has in turn turned around and is suing them. > **[Ex-White House Aide Sues Trump Over Tell-All Book](https://news.yahoo.com/ex-white-house-aide-sues-123303484.html)** > > Former White House communications aide Cliff Sims, who wrote "Team of Vipers," alleges Trump is using his campaign to try to silence him. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30453 "2019-02-12T19:21:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > At Individual 1’s rally last night, there was a woman standing behind him who was wearing a Green Bay Packers shirt (what she was doing in Texas, I have no idea). She applauded wildly when he criticized Socialism. > > The Packers are publicly owned. So, AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft (also publicly owned) are also examples of socialism? Or did you think the team was owned by the city of Green Bay? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30454 "2019-02-12T19:33:39Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > So, AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft (also publicly owned) are also examples of socialism? Or did you think the team was owned by the city of Green Bay? > [@](#): > > It is the third-oldest franchise in the NFL, dating back to 1919,[7][8] and is the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team based in the United States.[9] Home games have been played at Lambeau Field since 1957. > **[Green Bay Packers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)** > > Independent (1919–1920) > National Football League (1921–present) > The Green Bay Packers are a professional American football team based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Packers compete in the National Football League (NFL) as a member club of the National Football Conference (NFC) North division. It is the third-oldest franchise in the NFL, dating back to 1919, and is the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team based in the United States.\[a\] Home games have been play... ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30455 "2019-02-12T19:35:52Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > So, AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft (also publicly owned) are also examples of socialism? Or did you think the team was owned by the city of Green Bay? Well, by the citizens of Green Bay… some of whom I know. They’re very proud of grandpa’s shares that’ve been handed down, along with his season tickets. [Green Bay Packers, Inc. - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers,_Inc). > [@](#): > > The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. > > Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. > > It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports. ETA: Ninja’d by a Typo. Though we did quote different paragraphs… ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30456 "2019-02-12T19:56:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > (what she was doing in Texas, I have no idea). There are Cheeseheads everywhere in Texas. There’s at least one, if not several, Cheesehead bars in each major city in Texas where the faithful go to root for the Packers. Lots of Steelers fans, too, for that matter. Vastly outnumbered by Cowboys fans and, near Houston, Texans fans, but a definite presence, nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30457 "2019-02-12T19:58:35Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > There were “Finish the Wall” signs at the rally, since it appears he wants his base to think he’s actually accomplished something on the wall when reports are that no new sections of the wall have been built, just existing parts repaired. Someone should erect a banner at his next rally that says, “Wall’s done! Yay!” and see who falls for it. Who knows? Maybe that’ll just be the end of the whole stupid thing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30458 "2019-02-12T20:15:48Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Someone should erect a banner at his next rally that says, “Wall’s done! Yay!” and **see who falls for it.** Who knows? Maybe that’ll just be the end of the whole stupid thing. Bets on him being the first one? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30459 "2019-02-12T20:33:21Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Someone should erect a banner at his next rally that says, “Wall’s done! Yay!” and see who falls for it. Who knows? Maybe that’ll just be the end of the whole stupid thing. I believe there’s an old “Mission Accomplished!” banner rolled up someplace, possibly behind the White House Christmas decorations in the basement. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30460 "2019-02-12T21:15:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 now says he wants his military parade on the 4th of July. The idea got shot down last time when the price tag was unveiled. Maybe the great Artist of the Deal can get Mexico to pay this time… ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30461 "2019-02-12T21:55:26Z")
I’m feeling the need for a meme: Trump: “We’re building the wall anyway.” Pelosi : “Bollards!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30462 "2019-02-12T22:05:13Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Doesn’t he mean Stephen Miller is adding things to the bill? Only if Miller can convince the committees in either house (or the whole chamber once the bills are out of committee) to amend. And if any changes made it through conference. Trump is so ignorant of basic civics I wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks the executive can change a bill or that he can line-item veto. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30463 "2019-02-12T22:37:03Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I believe there’s an old “Mission Accomplished!” banner rolled up someplace, possibly behind the White House Christmas decorations in the basement. 😃 I want to see Trump in that flight suit! (Oh wait: no I don’t.) > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > At Individual 1’s rally last night, there was a woman standing behind him who was wearing a Green Bay Packers shirt (what she was doing in Texas, I have no idea). She applauded wildly when he criticized Socialism. > > The Packers are publicly owned. Ha, good point. Although it pains me as a diehard Minnesota Vikings fan to be reminded that the Packers have such a cool ownership setup. I wish all NFL teams were like this! > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s better that he doesn’t. It’s called “Executive Time” on his official daily schedule, btw. Yeah, I was gonna say. We don’t want him working harder! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30464 "2019-02-12T22:45:09Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Only if Miller can convince the committees in either house (or the whole chamber once the bills are out of committee) to amend. And if any changes made it through conference. Trump is so ignorant of basic civics I wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks the executive can change a bill or that he can line-item veto. Bush was a big fan of signing statements that would significantly alter a bill. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1522) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1524)