# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30465 "2019-02-12T22:49:46Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Bush was a big fan of signing statements that would significantly alter a bill.

For what it’s worth, the signing statements only stated how the Executive branch would enforce whatever was in the bill.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30466 "2019-02-12T22:58:26Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Someone should erect a banner at his next rally that says, “Wall’s done! Yay!” and see who falls for it. Who knows? Maybe that’ll just be the end of the whole stupid thing.

Trump fans are willing to accept a lot of lies—big and small—from the guy who’s delivering to them that ‘_you are the only Real Americans_’ message.

But I suspect they may have trouble with a new imperative to ‘_let’s all pretend the Wall is real, and if we stick together, that will make the Libtards just as angry as if there were an actual Wall_.’

For one thing, the level of abstract thinking required would present a lot of them with difficulties.

But the main problem is that what they want The Wall for is fairly specific—something that can’t be supplied by a ‘let’s all pretend’ Wall. They want the Wall so their kids can taunt their darker-skinned classmates with ‘_Go back behind the Wall; you’re not welcome here!_’ They want the Wall so they can sneer openly at the Hispanic-last-name guy at work. They want the Wall so they can hold Wall Day, at which ham on mayonnaise sandwiches will be served and country music will be played and everyone will wear flag pins and NASCAR will be discussed.

It’s a symbol. It will be a problem if it’s tough for them to pretend that the symbol actually has physical existence.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30467 "2019-02-12T23:33:27Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> The BBC. This is damned embarrassing.

I am totally down for the Queen slapping him should he visit England again.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30468 "2019-02-12T23:35:03Z")

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Maybe James Cameron can come up with hologram projection technology that allows a simulation of a wall to be thrown up to satisfies these yahoos.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30469 "2019-02-13T00:30:06Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> They want the Wall so they can hold Wall Day, at which ham on mayonnaise sandwiches will be served and country music will be played and everyone will wear flag pins and NASCAR will be discussed.

If we can lose the stupid pins and NASCAR discussion (used to be a big fan, dead to me now), I’ll bring the 'tater salad. Sounds like a party!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30470 "2019-02-13T01:01:33Z")

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Yeah, I’m thinking I’d be willing to dress up in overalls and flannel if there’s a ham ‘n’ mayonnaise sandwich involved.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30471 "2019-02-13T01:20:13Z")

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That doesn’t sound good to me, but to each their own!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30472 "2019-02-13T01:34:08Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> If we can lose the stupid pins and NASCAR discussion (used to be a big fan, dead to me now), I’ll bring the 'tater salad. Sounds like a party!

I just got back from vacation in South Korea. I had a lengthy conversation about NASCAR there, with my SK relatives. They did most of the talking. Turns out NASCAR racing back in the US is popular in SK. I haven’t had a discussion about that sport in years.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30473 "2019-02-13T01:36:08Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> 😃 I want to see Trump in that flight suit! (Oh wait: no I don’t.)

Come now, this is a man who thinks gold taps are chic. Think less GWB in flight suit and more Elvis in Las Vegas.

(I’m thinking something like Uncle Sam, but star spangled in a cacophony of red, white, and blue rhinestones with a screaming American Eagle on the back in sequins.) 😉

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30474 "2019-02-13T01:55:41Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Trump fans are willing to accept a lot of lies—big and small—from the guy who’s delivering to them that ‘_you are the only Real Americans_’ message.
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> But I suspect they may have trouble with a new imperative to ‘_let’s all pretend the Wall is real, and if we stick together, that will make the Libtards just as angry as if there were an actual Wall_.’

Sure, it’d be hard for them to PRETEND, but aren’t they also gullible enough to believe it if he says it’s true? If he says it’s done, how many are going to doubt? Who would they believe that would tell them otherwise?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30475 "2019-02-13T01:57:25Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> 😃 I want to see Trump in that flight suit! (Oh wait: no I don’t.)

Supposedly, he had his physical a few days ago, but no word yet on his current height and weight. Apparently his doctors can’t figure out any numbers that are both acceptable to their client and not guaranteed to set off even louder gales of laughter than the previous claim of 6’ 3" and 239 pounds…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30476 "2019-02-13T01:58:25Z")

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> [@Apollyon](#):
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> I’m thinking something like Uncle Sam, but star spangled in a cacophony of red, white, and blue rhinestones with a screaming American Eagle on the back in sequins. 😉

I heard a rumor that Uncle Sam was a homosexual – best not ask about the Russian bear.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30477 "2019-02-13T02:03:49Z")

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Also, [the American Eagle hates him too](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/10/donald-trump-attacked-by-american-bald-eagle-video).

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30478 "2019-02-13T03:02:40Z")

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I couldn’t decide if this was just a Stupid Republican Idea of the Day but since it is uniquely Trump stupid, I’ll put it here.

Trump wants to start a “new” tradition. Yeah!

> [@you keep thinking Butch](#):
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> “We’re thinking about doing, on the 4th of July or thereabouts, a parade, a ‘Salute to America’ parade. I guess it’d be really more of a gathering than a parade. Perhaps at the Lincoln Memorial. We’re looking at sites. But we’re thinking about doing something that would, perhaps, become a tradition,” Trump said.

A gathering! To celebrate America on the 4th of July! Only Trump could think up something so clever!

[https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/trump-parade-july-4/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/trump-parade-july-4/index.html)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30479 "2019-02-13T03:25:54Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> 😃 I want to see Trump in that flight suit! (Oh wait: no I don’t.)

I want to see him in a flight suit tailored for a guy that weighs 239.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30480 "2019-02-13T03:29:37Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I couldn’t decide if this was just a Stupid Republican Idea of the Day but since it is uniquely Trump stupid, I’ll put it here.
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> Trump wants to start a “new” tradition. Yeah!
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> A gathering! To celebrate America on the 4th of July! Only Trump could think up something so clever!
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/trump-parade-july-4/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/trump-parade-july-4/index.html)

You should have seen the intro to Rachel’s A-block tonight, about this wonderful idea Trump had come up with to start a new tradition celebrating the beginning of America. And maybe he’ll invent a new game for us, that involves somebody standing still with a stick in their hand while someone else throws a ball at them so the ball can be hit and there’ll be lots of running involved around this pieces of plastic set in a diamond pattern in the dirt … and on and on. It was hysterical.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30481 "2019-02-13T03:34:24Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I want to see him in a flight suit tailored for a guy that weighs 239.

Ha! I mean, it would be horrifying to look at, but it would be worth it for his humiliation.

> [@Apollyon](#):
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> Come now, this is a man who thinks gold taps are chic. Think less GWB in flight suit and more Elvis in Las Vegas.
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> (I’m thinking something like Uncle Sam, but star spangled in a cacophony of red, white, and blue rhinestones with a screaming American Eagle on the back in sequins.) 😉

Good point. Now I’m picturing something out of Robert Altman’s _Nashville_.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30482 "2019-02-13T05:47:38Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Supposedly, he had his physical a few days ago, but no word yet on his current height and weight. Apparently his doctors can’t figure out any numbers that are both acceptable to their client and not guaranteed to set off even louder gales of laughter than the previous claim of 6’ 3" and 239 pounds…

The report said he’s going to be healthy enough to survive to the end of his term, and real doctors are saying, “Doctors don’t predict that you’re going to live for any particular length of time.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30483 "2019-02-13T06:18:38Z")

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A tiny church in Texas is suing Individual 1’s administration to prevent the building of the wall on the grounds of religious freedom - that the government can’t claim their property under eminent domain.

> **[A tiny chapel — and a law beloved by evangelicals — might stand in the way of...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/church-uses-religious-freedom-restoration-act-to-contest-trumps-new-wall-section-221341325.html)**
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> The Catholic Church looks to block further construction of a border barrier.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30484 "2019-02-13T10:41:26Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Supposedly, he had his physical a few days ago, but no word yet on his current height and weight. Apparently his doctors can’t figure out any numbers that are both acceptable to their client and not guaranteed to set off even louder gales of laughter than the previous claim of 6’ 3" and 239 pounds…

No, no. You misunderstood. Last year, the doc’s supervisor ordered the doc to “weigh that ass”, clearly referring to Trump being a complete ass. The fool doc, on the other hand, thought he was just to weigh Trump’s buttocks.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I want to see him in a flight suit tailored for a guy that weighs 239.

Damn skippy!

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A tiny church in Texas is suing Individual 1’s administration to prevent the building of the wall on the grounds of religious freedom - that the government can’t claim their property under eminent domain.  
> [Church uses Religious Freedom Restoration Act to contest Trump’s new wall section](https://www.yahoo.com/news/church-uses-religious-freedom-restoration-act-to-contest-trumps-new-wall-section-221341325.html)

When I read that, I was thrilled to see that the law was “beloved of evangelicals”. Then I thought, “Hey, don’t those fools hate Catholics and especially brown Catholics?” Ah, that’ll be awesome to see more and more people turn on Trump.

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