# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1527
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30525 "2019-02-14T04:38:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It is worse than that, it is Kraft Salad Dressing. .\>urp\< Wait. What?! You, sir (or madam) have crossed a line! It’s Duke’s or nothing. Have you no sense of decency, sir (or madam), at long last? Have you left no sense of decency? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30526 "2019-02-14T04:40:51Z")
Some Americans must believe and trust our orange president, when he excretes lies; I’m calling it just “the **doorhinge** precedent” as it is useful in marking fools For though the language used to basely tweet that dreck is purple and braggadocious, lame - a graceless bleat it marks the _derpful_ and shows them off as twitted tools [sub]Sorta[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30527 "2019-02-14T05:35:49Z")
> [@simster](#): > > more like Offul Knofful. Close. Offal Knoffal. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30528 "2019-02-14T12:58:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by simster > > more like Offul Knofful. > > Close. Offal Knoffal. I like both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30529 "2019-02-14T14:41:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Close. Offal Knoffal. When I was a kid and Evel Knievel was very popular, I’d always assumed his ‘cousin’ (or whomever) was **Aweful** Knoffel. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30530 "2019-02-14T15:14:15Z")
Andrew McCabe book. Yet another one… From [Axios](https://www.axios.com/andrew-mccabe-book-the-threat-excerpts-trump-5201ae73-6d7e-48d9-b2d4-1d97bbc43a98.html): > [@](#): > > Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe calls President Trump “a deliberate liar who will say whatever he pleases to get whatever he wants” in his new book “The Threat,” according to excerpts published Thursday in The Atlantic. > > … > > Highlights from his thoughts on Trump in [The Atlantic’s\*](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/andrew-mccabe-fbi-book-excerpt-the-threat/582748/) excerpts: > > [ul] > [li]“I wrote memos about my interactions with President Trump for the same reason that [former FBI director James] Comey did: to have a contemporaneous record of conversations with a person who cannot be trusted.”[/li] > [li]“People do not appreciate how far we have fallen from normal standards of presidential accountability. Today we have a president who is willing not only to comment prejudicially on criminal prosecutions but to comment on ones that potentially affect him.”[/li] > [li]“The president has stepped over bright ethical and moral lines wherever he has encountered them. Every day brings a new low, with the president exposing himself as a deliberate liar who will say whatever he pleases to get whatever he wants.”[/li]… > [/ul] This is what some of us have been harping on from the beginning: _“People do not appreciate how far we have fallen from normal standards of presidential accountability.”_ We’ve gotten used to it. What used to be [outrageous](https://imgur.com/vQ7gDr4)and unthinkable is the New Normal. Hard to believe Obama was once raked over the coals for wearing a tan suit. :dubious: \*Title of The Atlantic article: _“Every Day Is a New Low in Trump’s White House”_ ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30531 "2019-02-14T15:43:45Z")
Don’t worry. It will be outrageous and unthinkable once a Democrat returns to the Oval Office. Tan suits and imperfect salutes will control Faux news cycles for weeks. Every punctuation error will be proof that the Democrat is unfit for office. Let’s not even imagine the outrage that will occur if the Democrat or his/her spouse exchanges pleasantries with the AG. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30532 "2019-02-14T17:18:57Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Don’t worry. It will be outrageous and unthinkable once a Democrat returns to the Oval Office. Tan suits and imperfect salutes will control Faux news cycles for weeks. Every punctuation error will be proof that the Democrat is unfit for office. Let’s not even imagine the outrage that will occur if the Democrat or his/her spouse exchanges pleasantries with the AG. And the Terrorist Fist Bump. _Don’t_ forget the Terrorist Fist Bump. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30533 "2019-02-14T17:25:31Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Andrew McCabe book. Yet another one… > > From [Axios](https://www.axios.com/andrew-mccabe-book-the-threat-excerpts-trump-5201ae73-6d7e-48d9-b2d4-1d97bbc43a98.html): > > This is what some of us have been harping on from the beginning: \*“People do not appreciate how far we have fallen from normal standards of presidential accountability.” And the majority of Republican voters are just fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30534 "2019-02-14T17:43:07Z")
> [@MN\_Maenad](#): > > And the majority of Republican voters are just fine with it. Not to mention Republican Senators and Congresspersons. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30535 "2019-02-14T17:47:10Z")
> [@MN\_Maenad](#): > > And the majority of Republican voters are just fine with it. The lying and the crushing of norms and the shitting on ethics are considered to be a perk, not a bad thing by Republicans. When you elect a party whose platform is “government is bad and must be destroyed”, don’t be surprised when they try to destroy government. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30536 "2019-02-14T20:01:21Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > > [@D\_Odds](#): > > > > Don’t worry. It will be outrageous and unthinkable once a Democrat returns to the Oval Office. Tan suits and imperfect salutes will control Faux news cycles for weeks. Every punctuation error will be proof that the Democrat is unfit for office. Let’s not even imagine the outrage that will occur if the Democrat or his/her spouse exchanges pleasantries with the AG. > > And the Terrorist Fist Bump. _Don’t_ forget the Terrorist Fist Bump. :rolleyes: Let’s not get started about Obama not returning a Marine’s salute (which the President should **not** do, being neither in the military nor in uniform). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30537 "2019-02-14T20:08:31Z")
Meanwhile, Dotard the Individual-First, is looking at not-signing the funding resolution. > **[Trump will sign bill to avoid shutdown, then declare national emergency to...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/donald-trump-wall-funding-bill/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump plans to sign a compromise border security measure Friday and then announce that he is using executive action, including declaring a national emergency, to spend $8 billion for border barriers, a White House official said. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30538 "2019-02-14T20:10:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Meanwhile, Dotard the Individual-First, is looking at not-signing the funding resolution. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/donald-trump-wall-funding-bill/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/donald-trump-wall-funding-bill/index.html) But, Chuck Grassley is praying that he sign it. If he doesn’t sign it, does that mean that Individual 1 is NOT God’s chosen, or that He doesn’t listen to Chuck Grassley? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30539 "2019-02-14T20:14:28Z")
Well, now Mitch the McConnell is on the Senate floor saying that Dotard will sign it _and_ do the National Emergency bit, which Mitch… to no-ones surprise… has now decided he will support. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30540 "2019-02-14T20:16:40Z")
Senior adviser to the president, Laura Ingraham, has told Trump that he will not sign it. So he won’t. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30541 "2019-02-14T20:19:38Z")
What really matters is what Ivanka tells him to do. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30542 "2019-02-14T20:24:24Z")
So this means that congress can force an ‘on the record’ vote for the wall in the senate, right? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30543 "2019-02-14T20:25:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, now Mitch the McConnell is on the Senate floor saying that Dotard will sign it _and_ do the National Emergency bit, which Mitch… to no-ones surprise… has now decided he will support. This is possibly the best possible outcome. Government stays open; no meaningful funding for his freaking wall. He declares an emergency which immediately is tied up in court forever. If somehow his grabbing of emergency power stands, then the next Democratic president can declare a Gun Control Emergency and a Global Warming Emergency. Win-Win. Other than living in a dictatorship, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30544 "2019-02-14T20:26:50Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > This is possibly the best possible outcome. Government stays open; no meaningful funding for his freaking wall. He declares an emergency which immediately is tied up in court forever. If somehow his grabbing of emergency power stands, then the next Democratic president can declare a Gun Control Emergency and a Global Warming Emergency. Win-Win. Other than living in a dictatorship, of course. Not a win win if he raids things like California fire recovery funds and Puerto Rico recovery funds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1526) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1528)