# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1529
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30565 "2019-02-15T00:23:32Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > … It’s almost as though he has no coherent view of what the hell is going on. Ya think? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30566 "2019-02-15T01:18:52Z")
“Coherent” does not belong in any sentence that includes Individual-1. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30567 "2019-02-15T01:36:13Z")
There’s a hilarious video of McConnell going on the Senate floor to announce the signing and likely emergency. It was apparently _ **so important** _ that he interrupted a speech by Chuck Grassley, which did not go over well. Grassley was not pleased at being interrupted, and said he would just put the rest of his speech into the record, and next time, he might be allowed to finish what he had to say. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30568 "2019-02-15T02:07:32Z")
Did I miss anyone posting about how his doctor claims he’s only gained 4lbs since last year? 4lb per inch, perhaps. He was not svelte in 2016 and is looking worse and worse. And even though the official pronouncement is CLEARLY way too low at 243, at his professed height (which is too high) he is now technically obese on his own paperwork. (Not hating on being large, but I hate liars and hypocrites) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30569 "2019-02-15T04:07:40Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Did I miss anyone posting about how his doctor claims he’s only gained 4lbs since last year? > > 4lb per inch, perhaps. He was not svelte in 2016 and is looking worse and worse. > > And even though the official pronouncement is CLEARLY way too low at 243, at his professed height (which is too high) he is now technically obese on his own paperwork. > > (Not hating on being large, but I hate liars and hypocrites) From the Wiki entry on [rosuvastatin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosuvastatin), which the official report said the twerp’s taking: > [@](#): > > It is recommended to be used together with dietary changes, exercise, and weight loss. ISTM someone’s not following the guidelines. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30570 "2019-02-15T04:38:02Z")
Rachel was wondering tonight why it’s so important to him that he is regarded as being taller than he really is, complete with illustrations of him standing next to people of his claimed height and shorter. He claims to be 6’3", but next to a bunch of 6’2" and 6’3" people, he is visibly shorter. He’s even a smidge shorter than Obama (I think Obama is about 6’1¾"), which must just drive him crazier. And then she showed how his campaign committee had photoshopped a meme they created of him so that he looked tidier, taller, and with long(er) fingers. The man is mentally ill. It doesn’t seem to matter what it is, he lies. He lies about his height. He lies about his weight. He lies about the size of his hands. He lies about his net worth. He lies about contacts with Russia. Whether it’s something that can be proven wrong or not, he lies. If it’s something on which he \*has \*been proven wrong (inauguration crowd size, for example), he doubles and triples down with the lies. And we’re all becoming numb to it. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30571 "2019-02-15T04:55:47Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > And then she showed how his campaign committee had photoshopped a meme they created of him so that he looked tidier, taller, and with long(er) fingers. Then there is this Photoshop where his skin color matches the color around his eyes, no hair dye and no combover - [you have been warned](https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/52/2019/02/EvilBigGuy.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30572 "2019-02-15T05:09:51Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Then there is this Photoshop where his skin color matches the color around his eyes, no hair dye and no combover - [you have been warned](https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/52/2019/02/EvilBigGuy.jpg). Oh, yes, I’ve seen that. He actually looks somewhat more human-like. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30573 "2019-02-15T05:12:02Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Then there is this Photoshop where his skin color matches the color around his eyes, no hair dye and no combover - [you have been warned](https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/52/2019/02/EvilBigGuy.jpg). That is not Individual-1 on the right, it is clearly L. Ron Hubbard. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30574 "2019-02-15T05:19:26Z")
This is the danger: America is increasingly being sucked into a dangerous maelstrom of oligarchal corruption. It’s happening right now, before our very eyes. > **[Russian-Style Kleptocracy Is Infiltrating America](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/how-kleptocracy-came-to-america/580471/)** > > When the U.S.S.R. collapsed, Washington bet on the global spread of democratic capitalist values—and lost. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30575 "2019-02-15T05:33:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “Coherent” does not belong in any sentence that includes Individual-1. Oh, I dunno; how about “Individual-1 didn’t realize until it was too late that the structures on the heads of the sharks surging toward him were emitting coherent light aimed straight for his covfefe.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30576 "2019-02-15T06:07:42Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > That is not Individual-1 on the right, it is clearly L. Ron Hubbard. Can’t be. L Ron Hubbard’s has been dead for 30 years. Although now that you mention it maybe it is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30577 "2019-02-15T08:31:41Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > The man is mentally ill. It doesn’t seem to matter what it is, he lies. He lies about his height. He lies about his weight. He lies about the size of his hands. He lies about his net worth. He lies about contacts with Russia. Whether it’s something that can be proven wrong or not, he lies. If it’s something on which he \*has \*been proven wrong (inauguration crowd size, for example), he doubles and triples down with the lies. **And we’re all becoming numb to it.** The part in bold is the plan. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30578 "2019-02-15T13:22:22Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The last thing Trump wants is for ‘The Wall’ to actually be built. That would leave him with no role to play. Actually, I think he _does_ want the wall built… eventually. He desperately wants a legacy which is why I have suggested a Potemkin wall and/or changing the ICE and Border Patrol SWAT jackets to say TRUMP on the back. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30579 "2019-02-15T13:28:15Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Actually, I think he _does_ want the wall built… eventually. He desperately wants a legacy which is why I have suggested a Potemkin wall and/or changing the ICE and Border Patrol SWAT jackets to say TRUMP on the back. Rename them? Terrorist Reduction Unit - Military Police ? Actually moving them into the military could be problematic (posse comitatus and what not), but it could work. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30580 "2019-02-15T13:38:24Z")
The wall distracts us from the broader significance of what’s really happening, which is the disruption of the federal government - something that plays into the hands of global kleptocrats. The struggle we have now is to preserve a government that continues to serve the public and letting it devolve into something that serves primarily the interests of a corrupt elite class. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30581 "2019-02-15T14:31:19Z")
NPR this morning is reporting that he is likely to use funds allocated for construction and renovation of military bases. Probably because it’s harder to stop him from misusing those funds. It’ll be fun to see how the propagandists try to spin that. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30582 "2019-02-15T14:57:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > There’s a hilarious video of McConnell going on the Senate floor to announce the signing and likely emergency. It was apparently _ **so important** _ that he interrupted a speech by Chuck Grassley, which did not go over well. Grassley was not pleased at being interrupted, and said he would just put the rest of his speech into the record, and next time, he might be allowed to finish what he had to say. The reporting last night is that he did this because he had gotten an agreement by Trump, but was concerned that Trump would back out of it. So, this was to lock Trump into his decision. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30583 "2019-02-15T18:10:59Z")
Apparently during his press conference today (I haven’t watched it) to declare a National Emergency at the southern border, Trump admitted that it wasn’t really an emergency. > > [@Peter Alexander](#): > > Trump, responding to my question, concedes there’s no national emergency to justify building his wall: “I didn’t need to do this… I just want to do it faster.” > That answer will complicate his legal case. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30584 "2019-02-15T18:19:26Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Apparently during his press conference today (I haven’t watched it) to declare a National Emergency at the southern border, Trump admitted that it wasn’t really an emergency. > > [https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1096443896245219330](https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1096443896245219330) More evidence of how easy it is to goad and manipulate him. Trump simply cannot admit he’s wrong or failed at anything. He didn’t get his way with congress, and he won’t be able to get funding in the future. He knows this, but to acknowledge it is a failure. So, he declares the National Emergency to get his money, but still has to say that he’d be able to get his money from congress because he’s the master negotiator and always wins in the end. He just can’t realize the damage he does to his case to satisfy his ego. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1528) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1530)