# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3041 "2017-04-05T16:42:14Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Nah, prison is too good for him. I have a better idea; let’s evacuate Gary, Indiana and built a fifty foot high containment wall around it…
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> Stranger

And make Bannon pay for it!

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3042 "2017-04-05T16:51:19Z")

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Actually, I think this is one wall that Mexico would be happy to pay for. I think the European member nations of NATO would be willing to chip in as well, making up for their less than 2% GDP dues. Angela Merkel can give the opening address, and then challenge Trump to arm wrestle before putting him in a full nelson hold and handing him over to Arnold Schwarzenegger to fling him bodily over the wall.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3043 "2017-04-05T16:53:09Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Actually, I think this is one wall that Mexico would be happy to pay for. I think the European member nations of NATO would be willing to chip in as well, making up for their less than 2% GDP dues. Angela Merkel can give the opening address, and then challenge Trump to arm wrestle before putting him in a full nelson hold and handing him over to Arnold Schwarzenegger to fling him bodily over the wall.
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> Stranger

We can eliminate the EPA, as regards to anything inside the wall, and just dump all our toxic waste inside.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3044 "2017-04-05T16:55:28Z")

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Well, that was kind of the plan all along, hence starting with Steve Bannon. It can also be used as a nuclear waste repository and dumping ground for biological ape-human hybrids gone wrong.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3045 "2017-04-05T16:58:29Z")

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Of course, the crazy fucker still has top security clearance.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3046 "2017-04-05T17:03:40Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Trump 2017 shouldn’t be held accountable for what Trump 2013 tweeted. Heck, Trump Wednesday morning shouldn’t be held accountable for what Tuesday night Trump tweeted.
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> Every day, like a pheonix, a new Trump arises from the ashes of the old Trump. Reborn with none of the baggage of any of the things his previous incarnation said or did. This is how he can get away with saying things like he never promised he would [repeal Obamacare quickly.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/24/trump_says_he_never_promised_to_repeal_obamacare_quickly_a_list_of_times.html)

Trump was just a child back in 2013.

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**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3047 "2017-04-05T17:06:49Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Out of the NSC. That’s a decent start.

Out of the White House would be even better.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3048 "2017-04-05T17:07:25Z")

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Nobody could have predicted that Trump’s words would be kept in a permanent form. Trump was pretty sure that once they disappeared from his phone, they were gone forever; after all, there was no way he could find them again. So they didn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3049 "2017-04-05T17:16:01Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Well, that was kind of the plan all along, hence starting with Steve Bannon. It can also be used as a nuclear waste repository and dumping ground for biological ape-human hybrids gone wrong.
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> Stranger

Stranger, since I’m so accustomed to your wonderful but technical aerospace engineering posts, it gave me great pleasure to laugh out loud upon reading this.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3050 "2017-04-05T17:19:33Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So was Trump wrong then, or is he wrong now?

For Trump the truth, like everything else, is negotiable. Therefore, as the best negotiator, he is always right.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3051 "2017-04-05T17:35:09Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Stranger, since I’m so accustomed to your wonderful but technical aerospace engineering posts, it gave me great pleasure to laugh out loud upon reading this.

Stranger’s [skewering of the Bronze Fonz](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20116164&postcount=3), on the other hand, was completely uncalled for. 😉 (But it also made me laugh out loud).

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3052 "2017-04-05T17:56:08Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Of course, the crazy fucker still has top security clearance.

Given that Bannon seems to get most of his information about top secret government conspiracies from Breitbart and 4chan, I’m not sure there is really much impact of his having a security clearance. Sure, he’ll sell out our classified information to Russia or China (“It’s pronounced ‘gina’!”) but that just means that we’ll actually find out once and for all what is really going on at Raven Rock, just how long we’ve been creating human-alien hybrids, and the real reason Chris Carter started making _The X-Files_ suck big donkey balls.

> [@CatandMouse](#):
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> Trump was just a child back in 2013.

And now he’s all grown up like a [big boy!](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3YqndIVcAArEG_.jpg) Except for his han…oh, I can’t. It’s just too, too easy.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Stranger, since I’m so accustomed to your wonderful but technical aerospace engineering posts, it gave me great pleasure to laugh out loud upon reading this.

I am multitudinous in my talents, which include quoting the entire dialog of Bond films (up to the Dalton era only), hand balancing on moderately firm surfaces, reciting Richard III’s opening soliloquy, juggling plastic chain saws, cane fighting, and cooking Hungarian cuisine.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Stranger’s [skewering of the Bronze Fonz](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20116164&postcount=3), on the other hand, was completely uncalled for. 😉 (But it also made me laugh out loud).

I can see how the artist might feel as if he captured the inner frustration of Henry Winkler trapped in an iconic role he sought to escape from but just don’t understand the turquoise jeans. Or the placement in an otherwise little trafficked area of the riverwalk. I once exited The Safehouse and nearly preemptively attacked the statue thinking it was some kind of mutant river zombie on the rampage. Terrifying!

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3053 "2017-04-05T18:12:20Z")

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[Trump: “The world is a mess. I inherited a mess.”](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/trump-today-live-updates/index.html)

Uh, yeah. Like every single president since George Washington. Did he think being president would be as fun and easy as being urinated on by Russian prostitutes?

[Advice from a former president.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpRswM-tzc&t=1m30s)

[Advice from an experienced politician.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g)

[Advice from Bill O’Reilly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXnKxVXEIw&t=1m23s)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3054 "2017-04-05T18:15:49Z")

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They’re throwing another bus on top of Flynn. They’re claiming Bannon wasn’t thrown off the council because he shouldn’t have ever been on it. Apparently he was there just to keep an eye on Flynn.

Where’s Baghdad Bob and Jon Lovitz?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3055 "2017-04-05T18:23:02Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> [Trump: “The world is a mess. I inherited a mess.”](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/trump-today-live-updates/index.html)
> 
> Uh, yeah. Like every single president since George Washington. Did he think being president would be as fun and easy as being urinated on by Russian prostitutes?  
> …

It would be the perfect opportunity to recall President Obama skewering Trump at the correspondent’s dinner, but I don’t have a link handy. (I’m at work and can’t go browsing too much.)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3056 "2017-04-05T18:33:33Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Of course, the crazy fucker still has top security clearance.

Do you think that, in a Trump administration, security clearances mean a damn thing?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3057 "2017-04-05T18:43:01Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Do you think that, in a Trump administration, security clearances mean a damn thing?

Not much. Putin has a clearance by proxy.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3058 "2017-04-05T19:08:43Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Every day, like a pheonix, a new Trump arises from the ashes of the old Trump. Reborn with none of the baggage of any of the things his previous incarnation said or did. This is how he can get away with saying things like he never promised he would [repeal Obamacare quickly.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/24/trump_says_he_never_promised_to_repeal_obamacare_quickly_a_list_of_times.html)

No need to resort to magical thinking to explain the contradiction. Trump said he would repeal it quickly, and he would have, too, if it weren’t for those pesky liberals!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3059 "2017-04-05T19:16:29Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> No need to resort to magical thinking to explain the contradiction. Trump said he would repeal it quickly, and he would have, too, if it weren’t for those pesky liberals!

And those pesky Republicans. I’ll bet he didn’t see that coming.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3060 "2017-04-05T19:27:05Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Do you think that, in a Trump administration, security clearances mean a damn thing?

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Not much. Putin has a clearance by proxy.

Hell, Putin can just read Trump’s tweets like the rest of us and find out everything he needs/wants to know.

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