# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1537
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30725 "2019-02-18T18:06:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mike Pence made a speech at an international security conference in Munich where he started out by saying, “I bring greetings from the 45th president of the United States of America, President Donald Trump” > He stood there expecting applause, and got nothing. > [PAINFUL: Pence Mentioned Greetings From Trump At A Speech In Munich And Got ZERO Applause | Crooks and Liars](https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/painful-pence-mentioned-greetings-trump?utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_content=10617) disconnect Huckabeast: _It was out of respect for our President that world leaders observed a moment of silence during Vice President Pence’s speech in Munich._ (this was taken from an image of a tweet by Jeremy Newberger, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy) ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30726 "2019-02-18T18:26:01Z")
If any Wall gets built using Trump’s “national emergency” funds, the next Democratic president should immediately have it torn down. Just like Trump has done to anything Obama tried to accomplish. Of course the MAGAts will just see it as proof that Democrats want open borders so all those drugs and thugs and duct-taped wimmin can be snuck across. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30727 "2019-02-18T18:28:43Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > disconnect > > Huckabeast: _It was out of respect for our President that world leaders observed a moment of silence during Vice President Pence’s speech in Munich._ > > (this was taken from an image of a tweet by Jeremy Newberger, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy) WHOA!! :eek: _\_ ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30728 "2019-02-18T18:46:11Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > WHOA!! :eek: > > _\_ I think this was satire on the Twitter poster’s part, but it says something when one can’t tell the difference between satire and actual press releases from the Trump White House. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30729 "2019-02-18T19:10:20Z")
“_That was some weird shit._” – G. W. Bush Yeah, this is unfamiliar territory. Where is Rod Serling when you need him? ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30730 "2019-02-18T19:11:21Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I think this was satire on the Twitter poster’s part, but it says something when one can’t tell the difference between satire and actual press releases from the Trump White House. We do appear to be reaching a state of perfect Poe. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30731 "2019-02-18T20:08:01Z")
Gotta call this new reality the Poeverton Window: When Political Discourse Merges with the Purely Satiric ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30732 "2019-02-18T20:45:13Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I think this was satire on the Twitter poster’s part, but it says something when one can’t tell the difference between satire and actual press releases from the Trump White House. > [@Apollyon](#): > > We do appear to be reaching a state of perfect Poe. Well, I’ll bet if someone told thump that that was the meaning of “dead silence/no applause” he’d believe it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30733 "2019-02-18T21:02:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Well, I’ll bet if someone told thump that that was the meaning of “dead silence/no applause” he’d believe it. Pretty sure his administration will tell him just about anything to avoid toddler temper tantrums. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30734 "2019-02-18T22:43:41Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > disconnect > > Huckabeast: _It was out of respect for our President that world leaders observed a moment of silence during Vice President Pence’s speech in Munich._ > > (this was taken from an image of a tweet by Jeremy Newberger, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy) Perhaps it was a moment of silence for the Late Great USofA. They were morning our passing. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30735 "2019-02-18T22:51:37Z")
> [@Apollyon](#): > > We do appear to be reaching a state of perfect Poe. There is the precedent from Sanders when Trump was laughed at by the UN when he claimed his administration had accomplished more than any other. IIRC, Sanders was claiming the assembly was laughing _with_ Trump, not _at_ him. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30736 "2019-02-19T00:02:48Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > He can veto Congress’s resolution if the Republicans support him in his fake national emergency/power-grab/overreach that they’d condemn if a Democrat did it; to be veto proof, a 2/3 vote is required. > > Looked at another way: If enough Republicans set aside their servile sycophancy for one vote, Trump would be helpless. > [@SteveG1](#): > > I’m not counting on those traitor bastards. They already made their choice. True. But many of them are increasingly bothered by, er, what they’re swallowing. Many of them, for example, will be facing constituents directly affected by the proposed cuts to military construction projects and Homeland Security. As of now the votes still seem to be in flux to some extent. It’s a numbers game in the sense that if enough Republicans sense they’ll have cover for voting against Trump, then they might just vote against Trump. Never bet against herd instinct. > [@Folacin](#): > > So you’re saying Trump is going to win? In Congress, maybe. In the courts–that’s less certain. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30737 "2019-02-19T01:07:37Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > If any Wall gets built using Trump’s “national emergency” funds, the next Democratic president should immediately have it torn down. Just like Trump has done to anything Obama tried to accomplish. > > Of course the MAGAts will just see it as proof that Democrats want open borders so all those drugs and thugs and duct-taped wimmin can be snuck across. What about all those prayer rugs? You seem to be okay with that, you traitor! (That would be joking, for the humor-impaired.) > [@dasmoocher](#): > > There is the precedent from Sanders when Trump was laughed at by the UN when he claimed his administration had accomplished more than any other. > > IIRC, Sanders was claiming the assembly was laughing _with_ Trump, not _at_ him. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to tell a toddler to stop their tantrum when someone’s laughing at them? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30738 "2019-02-19T01:24:48Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Isn’t that what you’re supposed to tell a toddler to stop their tantrum when someone’s laughing at them? Trump is a toddler and it seems that all his lackeys and surrogates realize that when they are on TV, they are being/are going to be watched by their primary audience of one and that’s who they’re really performing for. But I’m sure a lot of his base also believes their bullshit. Did Fox play the UN video of Trump being laughed at? How many of his base would look for the video on their own? One guy I know kept on denying that Trump had assaulted any woman ever. He thought the “pussy grabbing” tape was Trump bragging about “getting some pussy” because he had never bothered to listen to it himself. It was FAKE NEWS to him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30739 "2019-02-19T01:43:45Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > Perhaps it was a moment of silence for the Late Great USofA. They were morning our passing. Now you are channeling Ronnie “_It’s mourning in America_” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30740 "2019-02-19T02:01:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > … > One guy I know kept on denying that Trump had assaulted any woman ever. He thought the “pussy grabbing” tape was Trump bragging about “getting some pussy” because he had never bothered to listen to it himself. > > It was FAKE NEWS to him. Gee, like a president bragging about “getting some pussy” is totally acceptable, right? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30741 "2019-02-19T02:32:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Gee, like a president bragging about “getting some pussy” is totally acceptable, right? :smack: After Rubio made fun of Trump’s small hands, Trump wanted to make sure everyone knew there was no size problem “down there” (or whatever he actually said). Classy. And since we know Trump is all about psychological projection, the opposite must be true. It’s really a tiny mushroom. Or, possibly a baby carrot. Whichever salad additive it is, it’s probably the cause of his massive insecurity and overcompensation for everything, including his belief he’s an expert on any subject. And that reminds me. I just saw this meme: > [@](#): > > BREAKING NEWS > > Sarah Huckabee-Sanders is stepping down as Press Secretary. She apparently is suffering from Dunning-Kruger syndrome. The syndrome is contagious and effects the brain and perception of the real world. Huckabee-Sanders apparently caught the syndrome from the President, who has been suffering from it his entire life. It is feared that many others in the Administration are also showing effects. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30742 "2019-02-19T02:34:32Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Some excerpts from the _Post’s_ review of McCabe’s book: > > [Andrew McCabe’s disturbing account of working for Sessions and Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/andrew-mccabes-disturbing-account-of-working-for-sessions-and-trump/2019/02/14/91eba5a4-3081-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.64e982c7f480) > > [my bold] > > Yes, because Putin is trustworthy and has America’s best interest at heart. The Russian internet trolls were the best investment Vlad ever made. > > The reviewer does talk about McCabe’s baggage and the book’s shortcomings and how McCabe has an ax to grind. If McCabe cared about justice more than he cared about himself, he would let Mueller do his work. Instead, he injects himself into the most important news story of our time and potentially serves as a distraction from the real work Mueller does. In fact, he potentially discredits that work. He does so knowingly. Hate to say it but McCabe and Comey are both…showboats. ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30743 "2019-02-19T02:59:40Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > If McCabe cared about justice more than he cared about himself, he would let Mueller do his work. Instead, he injects himself into the most important news story of our time and potentially serves as a distraction from the real work Mueller does. In fact, he potentially discredits that work. He does so knowingly. > > Hate to say it but McCabe and Comey are both…showboats. I think when the president calls you a liar it’s OK to defend yourself. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30744 "2019-02-19T03:06:33Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > I think when the president calls you a liar it’s OK to defend yourself. Maybe, but how does McCabe’s tell-all book help Mueller, and how does it help the general public? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1536) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1538)