# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1538
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30745 "2019-02-19T03:19:46Z")
\*\*16 States Sue to Stop Trump’s Use of Emergency Powers to Build Border Wall \*\* > **[16 States Sue to Stop Trump’s Use of Emergency Powers to Build Border Wall...](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/18/us/politics/national-emergency-lawsuits-trump.html)** > > A coalition of 16 states, including California and New York, is challenging President’s Trump use of emergency powers to spend billions on a border wall. > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — A coalition of 16 states, including California and New York, on Monday challenged President Trump in court over his plan to use emergency powers to spend billions of dollars on his border wall. > > The lawsuit is part of a constitutional confrontation that Mr. Trump set off on Friday when he declared that he would spend billions of dollars more on border barriers than Congress had granted him. The clash raises questions over congressional control of spending, the scope of emergency powers granted to the president, and how far the courts are willing to go to settle such a dispute. > > The suit, filed in Federal District Court in San Francisco, argues that the president does not have the power to divert funds for constructing a wall along the Mexican border because it is Congress that controls spending. > … Ho-hum. _yawn_ Thump _lurves_ lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30746 "2019-02-19T12:52:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \*\*16 States Sue to Stop Trump’s Use of Emergency Powers to Build Border Wall \*\* > [https://nyti.ms/2GOE7AW](https://nyti.ms/2GOE7AW) > > Ho-hum. _yawn_ > > Thump _lurves_ lawsuits. Just to clarify: I believe the states definitely should sue, as has been discussed elsewhere. That should definitely happen. And while it’s happening, thump will spin it as the Forces of Evil trying to block him from preserving Truth, Justice, and the American Way. So he gets points with his ass-licking base and at the same time, doesn’t have the burden of _doing_ anything (which the rest of us don’t want him to do anyway). My head hurts. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30747 "2019-02-19T13:20:33Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > If any Wall gets built using Trump’s “national emergency” funds, the next Democratic president should immediately have it torn down. Just like Trump has done to anything Obama tried to accomplish. Yes. It should be one of the first things done. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30748 "2019-02-19T13:23:16Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > If McCabe cared about justice more than he cared about himself, he would let Mueller do his work. Instead, he injects himself into the most important news story of our time and potentially serves as a distraction from the real work Mueller does. In fact, he potentially discredits that work. He does so knowingly. > > Hate to say it but McCabe and Comey are both…showboats. But … what if everythig corroborates all the shit we and Meuller know, and reveals some we don’t know? Trump loves punching down - shitting on people who won’t or can’t fight back. He loves his NDAs too. It’s about time ALL his dirt was made public. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30749 "2019-02-19T13:31:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Huh? It was in response to your Aunt Bee’s Sunday sinner typo and then your reaction. Should have made it a separate post. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30750 "2019-02-19T13:46:18Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > It was in response to your Aunt Bee’s Sunday sinner typo and then your reaction. Should have made it a separate post. Oh, ok. Yeah, it didn’t fit with the other things you quoted. Did you ever see the very [first episode](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0512599/?ref_=ttep_ep1) of the series when Aunt Bee came to live with Andy and Opie? It’s perfectly lovely. Ron Howard really was six years old and sooo cute. (He grew up cute, too.) Aside: in TVLand back then there were quite a few single fathers, but no single mothers. And the mothers were never spoken of. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30751 "2019-02-19T14:01:31Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Trump loves punching down - shitting on people who won’t or can’t fight back. Has Trump come up with a nickname for Pelosi, yet? Didn’t he tweet something like “Nancy Pelosi, or as I call her, Nancy…” Wow! What a zinger! On second thought, just SAD!!! Just shows what a loser bully he is, not afraid to “punch down” but won’t face off against someone who would take him. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30752 "2019-02-19T15:00:18Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Has Trump come up with a nickname for Pelosi, yet? > > Didn’t he tweet something like “Nancy Pelosi, or as I call her, Nancy…” > > Wow! What a zinger! > > On second thought, just SAD!!! > > Just shows what a loser bully he is, not afraid to “punch down” but won’t face off against someone who would take him. He’s afwaid of Nancy. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30753 "2019-02-19T15:10:02Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Has Trump come up with a nickname for Pelosi, yet? > > Didn’t he tweet something like “Nancy Pelosi, or as I call her, Nancy…” > > Wow! What a zinger! > > On second thought, just SAD!!! > > Just shows what a loser bully he is, not afraid to “punch down” but won’t face off against someone who would take him. My understanding is that her name was McGill, and she called herself Lil. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30754 "2019-02-19T15:11:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He’s afwaid of Nancy. Fuckin’ Hell, I’m afraid of Nancy and I’ve never met the woman. Don’t get me wrong, I love her but she clearly does not suffer fools and I’m firmly in that category. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30755 "2019-02-19T15:12:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe, but how does McCabe’s tell-all book help Mueller, and how does it help the general public? It helps the general public in that it confirms many of the ‘main stream media’ reports with regards to things within this administration., It helps McCabe defend himself against Trumps and others allegations. But since when does someone writing their story/view/etc have to specifically ‘help’ anything other than the person writing it? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30756 "2019-02-19T15:26:01Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He’s afwaid of Nancy. Dude - She’s an Italian grandmother. They eat Scary Flakes for breakfast. My wife’s only halfway there, and I’m scared shitless of her. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30757 "2019-02-19T15:46:30Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Dude - She’s an Italian grandmother. They eat Scary Flakes for breakfast. > > My wife’s only halfway there, and I’m scared shitless of her. I think I saw Nancy’s picture on the Scary Flakes cereal box at the grocery store, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30758 "2019-02-19T16:33:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Maybe, but how does McCabe’s tell-all book help Mueller, and how does it help the general public? Do you not understand that but for McCabe, there would have been no Mueller? Andrew McCabe is our version of Christopher Steele in the FBI. He’s a 20-year veteran of counter intelligence operations, an expert in Russia, a former Republican (not that his political affiliation should matter one whit). He was the one who opened the counter intelligence investigation into Trump and his campaign, then took every step he could think of to ensure what they were finding would not be disappeared. McCabe lost his job – and his retirement pension – owing to the fact that he threw himself on the grenade to protect the investigation. As a former civil servant who collects a pension myself, I can tell you this is a big-ass deal to both McCabe and his family. I am quite sure he did not envision his post-FBI career as an author, but you know, a guy’s gotta eat. His book was scrubbed for accuracy by Mueller’s team and to make certain it did not reveal anything Mueller wasn’t ready to reveal. For all you know, Mueller is glad to have someone speaking up in defense of the FBI, the actions it took after Comey was fired and most importantly, why. My guess is, the FBI has no problem with McCabe writing a book to recoup some measure of financial security in his retirement years after a long, distinguished career in service, to make up for was taken from him by Trump. If he is able to say some of the things that Mueller can’t yet say, so much the better. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30759 "2019-02-19T16:35:36Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > After Rubio made fun of Trump’s small hands, Trump wanted to make sure everyone knew there was no size problem “down there” (or whatever he actually said). Hence, the clownishly-long ties. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30760 "2019-02-19T18:21:02Z")
Lindsey Graham’s response to McCabe’s book is a threat to hold hearings, to get to the bottom of the whole 25th Amendment discussion. To which I say: is that a promise? I’d love to give McCabe an opportunity to discuss just what he thinks of Trump. And Graham describes it as an “administrative coup”. Well, isn’t that what the 25A is for? There are 2 possible explanations for what happened: 1 - a cabal in the Justice Dept/FBI is discussing the (extremely long-shot) possibility of using the 25A to get rid of a president they don’t like; or 2 - a group of patriots is horrified at the thought that the President is a Russian spy, and are looking for a way out. For some reason Graham thinks option 1 is the problem that needs to be investigated. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30761 "2019-02-19T20:33:47Z")
The House Oversight Committee, now containing a Democratic majority, has released a report contending that the Individual 1 administration is trying to send US nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in violation of federal law. > **[Trump Officials Tried To Rush Nuclear Technology To Saudis, House Panel Finds](https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695954246/trump-officials-tried-to-rush-nuclear-technology-to-saudis-house-panel-finds)** > > Whistleblowers told the Oversight committee that efforts by some national security officials to try to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to the Saudi government potentially violated the law. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30762 "2019-02-19T20:46:13Z")
When this is all over Trump will get a library, they all do. I suggest bolting shelves to the wall and stocking it with Dr. Suess books only in Spanish. The Berlin Wall had some great graffiti, but it will be nothing compared to hundreds of miles of painted Trump Tweets. People from all over the world will come and hike The Trail of Laughs. It’ll stimulate the economy and bring us closer together with out neighbors to the south. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30763 "2019-02-19T21:02:49Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > When this is all over Trump will get a library, they all do. I suggest bolting shelves to the wall and stocking it with Dr. Suess books only in Spanish. My hope is that he establishes a prison library…in his prison. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30764 "2019-02-19T21:06:29Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > My hope is that he establishes a prison library…in his prison. And leaves us after carving “Trump was here” on a ceiling beam… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1537) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1539)