# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3061 "2017-04-05T19:42:43Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> No need to resort to magical thinking to explain the contradiction. Trump said he would repeal it quickly, and he would have, too, if it weren’t for those pesky liberals!

Nobody could have foreseen that the Democrats would vote against trashing Obamacare and replacing it with an abomination that would have thrown 24 million people off of insurance. I mean, it was just not expected!

Also, nobody could possibly have known that being president was hard. I mean, the president gives orders, and his people follow the orders, right? How hard can that be?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3062 "2017-04-05T19:46:54Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> It would be the perfect opportunity to recall President Obama skewering Trump at the correspondent’s dinner, but I don’t have a link handy. (I’m at work and can’t go browsing too much.)

[Here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxFkEj7KPC0&t=19m57s), even cued up to his sick roast of Trump. “Trump knows a thing or two about running waterfront properties into the ground.”

I love the way the crowd demands an encore after Obama announces that he’s going to move on.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3063 "2017-04-05T19:50:08Z")

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Until now, NO ONE knew it would be hard to pass things through Congress.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3064 "2017-04-05T19:51:34Z")

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I must vent: Trump’s statements about the gas attacks on Syria piss me off to no end.

Trump said, “It crossed a lot of lines for me. When you kill innocent children, innocent babies — babies, little babies — with a chemical gas that is so lethal … that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line… That attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me. Big impact. It was a horrible, horrible thing. It’s very, very possible that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”

You ignorant dolt – what do you think has been happening in Syria for the last many years? Hospitals bombed, toddlers being pulled out of bomb craters, entire cities being leveled, and for years you basically concluded that Assad ain’t so bad.

Now it’s like reality somehow broke through that immense field of stupidity that surrounds you, so that you finally encounter for the first time what is actually occurring in Syria – and it’s like a gamechanger for you.

How dare you be so completely unaware of what’s going on in the world while running for the most important elected office in the world. Sure, there’s the silver lining that you finally seem to care a little bit about someone other than yourself, but these comments make me seethe with how totally unprepared you are to have the job you do.

It’s like if your closest friend died of cancer, and you’re compelled to tell the world, “Hey, I just found this out – cancer isn’t nearly as good as I once thought it was. I may be changing my mind on cancer, that’s for sure.”

You fucking prick.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3065 "2017-04-05T20:07:12Z")

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Now, now. Security briefings are hard. You can’t expect His Orangeness to actually pay attention during those things. If it ain’t on Fox, it didn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3066 "2017-04-05T20:16:38Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I must vent: Trump’s statements about the gas attacks on Syria piss me off to no end.
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> Trump said, “It crossed a lot of lines for me. When you kill innocent children, innocent babies — babies, little babies — with a chemical gas that is so lethal … that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line… That attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me. Big impact. It was a horrible, horrible thing. It’s very, very possible that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”
> 
> You ignorant dolt – what do you think has been happening in Syria for the last many years? Hospitals bombed, toddlers being pulled out of bomb craters, entire cities being leveled, and for years you basically concluded that Assad ain’t so bad.
> 
> Now it’s like reality somehow broke through that immense field of stupidity that surrounds you, so that you finally encounter for the first time what is actually occurring in Syria – and it’s like a gamechanger for you.
> 
> How dare you be so completely unaware of what’s going on in the world while running for the most important elected office in the world. Sure, there’s the silver lining that you finally seem to care a little bit about someone other than yourself, but these comments make me seethe with how totally unprepared you are to have the job you do.
> 
> It’s like if your closest friend died of cancer, and you’re compelled to tell the world, “Hey, I just found this out – cancer isn’t nearly as good as I once thought it was. I may be changing my mind on cancer, that’s for sure.”
> 
> You fucking prick.

And this is the same guy who said, about terrorists, that you had to go after their [families](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3067 "2017-04-05T20:26:44Z")

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I might be pleased to know that he wants to do something about it, if I weren’t so certain that it would be the wrongest possible something.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3068 "2017-04-05T21:16:06Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Obama isn’t the devil and Trump isn’t Jesus.

This is definitely true. Trump’s tiny, tiny hands couldn’t possibly bear the weight of his fupa, he’d have torn free from the cross in seconds.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3069 "2017-04-05T21:21:45Z")

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Huge feet. Either big toe has enough room for a railroad spike.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3070 "2017-04-05T21:47:23Z")

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I lol’d at Lobohan, despite being forced to google fupa.

ignorance fought!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3071 "2017-04-05T22:42:32Z")

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[Trump’s latest idiocy:](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/donald-trump-assad-syria-north-korea/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> “I now have responsibility, and I will have that responsibility and carry it very proudly,” Trump said during a news conference with Abdullah, with whom he huddled earlier in the Oval Office.  
> But asked whether he would take new action, Trump remained coy.  
> “You will see,” Trump said.

That’s not “coy”. That’s basically an admission that Trump does not have the first fucking clue what to do.

Seriously. All Trump knows is how to call up a contractor and threaten not to pay them. He knows how to yell at underlings to get things done, or else they’re fired. That’s it. He is completely bereft of original thought, and has not even the vaguest clue about international politics.

He couldn’t find Syria or North Korea with google, a globe, and an expert on Geography. He’d fire the expert, insist the globe was “too round”, and use google to find Russian hooker pee videos.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3072 "2017-04-05T22:49:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Huge feet. Either big toe has enough room for a railroad spike.

Feet, shmeet. Apply directly to the forehead.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3073 "2017-04-05T23:48:22Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Trump’s latest idiocy:](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/donald-trump-assad-syria-north-korea/index.html)
> 
> …
> 
> He couldn’t find Syria or North Korea with google, a globe, and an expert on Geography. He’d fire the expert, insist the globe was “too round”, and use google to find Russian hooker pee videos.

Nice

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3074 "2017-04-06T02:02:25Z")

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Well lookee here- [U.S. coal companies ask Trump to stick with Paris climate deal](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-coal-idUSKBN1762YY)

> [@](#):
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> Remaining in the global deal to combat climate change will give U.S. negotiators a chance to advocate for coal in the future of the global energy mix, coal companies like Cloud Peak Energy Inc and Peabody Energy Corp told White House officials over the past few weeks, according to executives and a U.S. official familiar with the discussions.
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> “The future is foreign markets, so the last thing you want to do if you are a coal company is to give up a U.S. seat in the international climate discussions and let the Europeans control the agenda,” said the official, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the issue.
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> “They can’t afford for the most powerful advocate for fossil fuels to be away from the table,” the official said.

The gist is that pulling out of the climate deal would actually accelerate coal’s demise. Who knew? Funny how so many of Obama’s policies turn out to be best practices when one looks at the contents instead of being offended by the man’s skin tone or “liberalism” or whatever the rubes were frothing about. If only Congress weren’t packed with jackasses like Ryan and McConnell, we’d have even more of these best practices in place.

So. Is the media the “enemy of the people”? Maybe it is the GOP congress.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3075 "2017-04-06T02:28:24Z")

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[Michael Flynn, Jr. is miffed that Bannon was removed from a little bit of power](https://twitter.com/mflynnJR/status/849660748204654592). Not that he’s gone completely.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3076 "2017-04-06T03:43:47Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He couldn’t find Syria or North Korea with google, a globe, and an expert on Geography. He’d fire the expert, insist the globe was “too round”, and use google to find Russian hooker pee videos.

In the interest of science (honest), I googled Russian hooker pee videos. The whole first page was references to Trump.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3077 "2017-04-06T04:03:52Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> In the interest of science (honest), I googled Russian hooker pee videos. The whole first page was references to Trump.

Decades from now, when I look back at these weird political times, there will be six words that will encapsulate the whole shbang, and it’s a random phrase from that first google page:  
“Donald Trump’s Russian prostitute pee party”.  
I think that’s a perfectly reasonable summation.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3078 "2017-04-06T04:33:29Z")

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[It appears the “Burn-It-All-to-The-Ground Savage” branch of the West Wing is coming into conflict with the “Caviar Enema” branch of the West Wing.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/bannon-resign-mercer-trump-236939?cmpid=sf)

On the one hand, if Bannon loses this war, our threat of nuclear annihilation goes down considerably, but with Kushner’s ascent, the chance that the 99% will be reduced to sustaining ourselves off of twigs and dog food within the next two years goes up significantly.

I suppose I should just stop being such a pussy and enjoy the political theater. But I still weep for my children.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3079 "2017-04-06T14:06:18Z")

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Now Nunes is" temporarily" stepping down from Russia probe.

> **[Nunes steps aside from Russia investigation](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/327570-nunes-steps-aside-from-russia-investigation/)**
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> House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) on Thursday said he will temporarily step aside from his committee’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presid…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3080 "2017-04-06T14:22:27Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Bannon is out!](https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/bannon-removed-from-national-security-council-role-in-shakeup)

A possible [real root cause](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/national-security-council-stephen-bannon.html) of the demotion:

> [@](#):
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> Mr. Trump was not pleased by the “President Bannon” puppet-master theme promoted by magazines, late-night talk shows and Twitter.

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