# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1540
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30785 "2019-02-20T19:33:56Z")
It’s always the right, Trump people, and Republicans who keep saying that the investigation is wrapping up. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30786 "2019-02-20T20:35:10Z")
Yeah, but sooner or later, they’re gonna be right. I mean, it’s gotta end sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30787 "2019-02-20T22:05:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Aside: in TVLand back then there were quite a few single fathers, but no single mothers. And the mothers were never spoken of. Hmmm… Until Diahann Carroll starred in _[Julia](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062575/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_4)_. Does anyone now remember _Julia_? It’s no fair if everyone remembers the Southern crackers that were all over the place in those days, but forgets the one show that genuinely broke new ground and deserves more memory and more credit. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30788 "2019-02-20T22:28:19Z")
But…but…but it wasn’t funny! A show needs more than a racial breakthrough to be memorable. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30789 "2019-02-20T23:28:01Z")
Well, shit. Trump almost started a war with Rocket Man and then declared victory and lied to us - while Rocket Man continues to build rockets. Then he did his best to trash all treaties, trade agreements, alliances that have held since World War II, etc. Then Trump walks away from a missile treaty we had with Russia. Trump’s withdrawal provided the perfect “ex post justification because they get to claim that they follow the rules while their opponents are dangerous and erratic,” Then he tried to hand Syria and the Middle East to Russia. All this he fucking did for Putin. And NOW this… Putin, also known as the man who Donald Trump trusts more than his own intelligence services, in a speech on Wednesday vowed to aim missiles at Europe and the United States if President Donald Trump deploys missiles closer to Russia, in Poland and Romania. And Pence was just sent home from Europe with a big “no thank you” to any suggestion that Donald Trump’s America knows anything about their defense. So when does the WINNING start??? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30790 "2019-02-20T23:32:58Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Well, shit. > > Trump almost started a war with Rocket Man and then declared victory and lied to us - while Rocket Man continues to build rockets. > > Then he did his best to trash all treaties, trade agreements, alliances that have held since World War II, etc. > > Then Trump walks away from a missile treaty we had with Russia. Trump’s withdrawal provided the perfect “ex post justification because they get to claim that they follow the rules while their opponents are dangerous and erratic,” > > Then he tried to hand Syria and the Middle East to Russia. > > All this he fucking did for Putin. > > And NOW this… > > Putin, also known as the man who Donald Trump trusts more than his own intelligence services, in a speech on Wednesday vowed to aim missiles at Europe and the United States if President Donald Trump deploys missiles closer to Russia, in Poland and Romania. > And Pence was just sent home from Europe with a big “no thank you” to any suggestion that Donald Trump’s America knows anything about their defense. > > So when does the WINNING start??? 2016; it’s just that Putin is the one winning. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30791 "2019-02-20T23:34:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > All this he fucking did for Putin. With input from this community, [I’m making a list](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=870900). ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30792 "2019-02-21T00:31:47Z")
Well, [this](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cohen-testimony/ex-trump-lawyer-cohen-to-testify-before-house-oversight-panel-next-week-idUSKCN1QA01H?il=0) should be fun. 😃 (Reuters) > [@](#): > > U.S. President Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen will testify in a public hearing before a U.S. House of Representatives committee on Feb. 27, the panel’s chairman said on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30793 "2019-02-21T01:33:32Z")
Cohen gets to report to prison 60 days after he was originally ordered to do so: > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen was granted a few more weeks of freedom Wednesday after his lawyers said he’s still recovering from surgery and hasn’t had time to get his affairs in order because he’s preparing to testify before Congress. > > … In a letter requesting the delay dated Wednesday, Cohen attorney Michael D. Monico cited a “more fulsome letter” sent to Pauley eight days ago by Cohen that was sealed. Monico said in Wednesday’s letter that Cohen needs to be monitored by his physician during his recovery. > > Cohen’s congressional testimony “will require Mr. Cohen to spend substantial time in preparation that will limit the time he has to get his affairs in order and spend time with his family, especially given such a short period between the anticipated hearings and the present reporting date,” Monico wrote. > **[Michael Cohen's prison date postponed due to surgery recovery](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/michael-cohens-prison-date-postponed-due-to-surgery-recovery)** > > President Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen was granted a few more weeks of freedom after his lawyers said he's still recovering from surgery and hasn't had time to get his affairs in order because he's preparing to testify before... ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30794 "2019-02-21T01:40:07Z")
Wasn’t Flynn given more time off to talk to Mueller? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30795 "2019-02-21T02:22:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Wasn’t Flynn given more time off to talk to Mueller? After reviewing the unredacted sentencing recommendations, the judge in the Flynn case _strongly_ recommended to Flynn that he cooperate some more with Mueller’s investigation before appearing for sentencing. He also said he could not guarantee that he would follow Mueller’s recommendations that Flynn be given no jail term in exchange for cooperate to date. The judge then inquired of the prosecutors if they had considered bringing treason charges against Flynn. Flynn – after missing the hint about 4 times before he finally caught it – prudently agreed to postpone his sentencing date until he could demonstrate that he had done more to cooperate with Mueller’s investigators. So… yeah. You’ve got it right. He was given more time off to talk to Mueller. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30796 "2019-02-21T03:25:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > 2016; it’s just that Putin is the one winning. From Brexit to MAGA, this is obvious. Russia is throwing the trans-Atlantic alliance off balance. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30797 "2019-02-21T03:36:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > With input from this community, [I’m making a list](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=870900). And imagine… ALL that stuff in our lists is ONLY the dirt we know, the dirt on the surface. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30798 "2019-02-21T22:42:04Z")
A federal judge has ruled that Trump’s Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta broke the law when he and other federal prosecutors hid a plea agreement between them and a billionaire sex trafficker in underaged girls from the victims of the crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30799 "2019-02-22T02:37:12Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > A federal judge has ruled that Trump’s Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta broke the law when he and other federal prosecutors hid a plea agreement between them and a billionaire sex trafficker in underaged girls from the victims of the crimes. I suspect there’s a lot of reporting relating to that Jeffrey Epstein case that’s yet to come—and some of it may involve some well-known names. Epstein had a wide social circle among current political figures. Some of them may be implicated in his crimes. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30800 "2019-02-22T03:10:44Z")
Let’s not forget about Trump and Epstein: > [@](#): > > "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,‘’ Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” [cite](http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/#print) He knew. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30801 "2019-02-22T03:33:50Z")
There’s a story about Hugh Hefner pursuing the very young Barbi Benton, and finally coaxed her into accepting a date. Nervously, as they sat to table, she remarked that she didn’t date anyone over twenty-six. “Neither do I.” replied Hefner. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30802 "2019-02-22T04:48:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > There’s a story about Hugh Hefner pursuing the very young Barbi Benton, and finally coaxed her into accepting a date. Nervously, as they sat to table, she remarked that she didn’t date anyone over twenty-six. > > “Neither do I.” replied Hefner. How did I get convinced that Barbi Benton and Adrienne Barbeau were the same person? I mean, not exactly, I just thought Barbi Benton was the name of the actress who played Maude’s daughter, and it wasn’t her at all. Note that this is not a “fire of a thousand suns” situation. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30803 "2019-02-22T06:28:11Z")
Adrienne Barbeau was in _Escape from New York_. Also _Swamp Thing_, where she was a mammal. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30804 "2019-02-22T14:12:44Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t she played a mammal in all her films? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1539) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1541)