# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1544
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30865 "2019-02-27T15:00:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Gaetz is now milling around the hearing room despite not being on the committee. Maybe he’s going to try to stop the testimony with his bare hands if he has to. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30866 "2019-02-27T15:07:10Z")
And the Republicans are trying to gum up the works with parlimentary obstructions. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30867 "2019-02-27T15:10:37Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And the Republicans are trying to gum up the works with parlimentary obstructions. Jim Jordan just said they want to follow the rules. “I guess the foot’s on the other hand now, isn’t it, [del]Kramer[/del] asshole?” Two-faced shit. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30868 "2019-02-27T15:14:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Jim Jordan just said they want to follow the rules. > “I guess the foot’s on the other hand now, isn’t it, [del]Kramer[/del] asshole?” > Two-faced shit. I really don’t get this allegiance to Trump by the Republicans. He’s an unmitigated disaster for them, you’d think they’d privately be glad this is happening and start working on improving their post-Trump brand ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30869 "2019-02-27T15:17:21Z")
Started [a new thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=871551) on the hearing so we’re not having a bunch of commentary in multiple threads. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30870 "2019-02-27T15:17:41Z")
Cummings: “The days of this committee protecting the President are over!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30871 "2019-02-27T15:27:28Z")
Trump not having a good track record for hiring lawyers [Rudy Giuliani: Anyone who believes ‘pathetic’ Cohen testimony is a ‘fool’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-anyone-who-believes-pathetic-cohen-testimony-is-a-fool/ar-BBU9q84?li=BBnb7Kz) > [@](#): > > “It’s pathetic. This is a lawyer who tapped (sic) his own client when he claimed he was being loyal. If you believe him you are a fool,” Giuliani, an attorney for President Trump, told The Washington Post. This was Trump’s lawyer for years. TRUMP believed him. Therefore…Trump is a fool! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30872 "2019-02-27T15:34:47Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Started [a new thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=871551) on the hearing so we’re not having a bunch of commentary in multiple threads. In case someone missed this… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30873 "2019-02-27T17:04:26Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Trump not having a good track record for hiring lawyers > > [Rudy Giuliani: Anyone who believes ‘pathetic’ Cohen testimony is a ‘fool’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-anyone-who-believes-pathetic-cohen-testimony-is-a-fool/ar-BBU9q84?li=BBnb7Kz) > > This was Trump’s lawyer for years. TRUMP believed him. Therefore…Trump is a fool! That’s one syllogism we could use. There’s also: _Anyone who believes ‘pathetic’ Cohen testimony is a ‘fool’_; _Rudy Giuliani is a fool_; Ergo, _Rudy Giuliani believes Cohen’s testimony_. Q.E.D. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30874 "2019-02-27T22:47:47Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I really don’t get this allegiance to Trump by the Republicans. He’s an unmitigated disaster for them, you’d think they’d privately be glad this is happening and start working on improving their post-Trump brand All they see is someone with a high profile who hates the same people they hate. They also see him voicing that hate and not getting the unfair punishment (as they see it) they would if they voiced it just three fucking years ago. MAGA=Make America Garbage A’right. Bigoted worthless craven pieces of crap. Just like their pandering psychopathic hero. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30875 "2019-02-27T23:21:07Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I really don’t get this allegiance to Trump by the Republicans. He’s an unmitigated disaster for them, you’d think they’d privately be glad this is happening and start working on improving their post-Trump brand Rejecting him would trash their relevance. They made him. They allowed him. They facilitated him. If they own him, they have to make it look like not the egregious folly that he is. There is no space between the intrusion and the vortex for them to straddle. The only way forward is to pretend that they are succeeding on the back of Individual-1 (his knuckles dragging the ground). ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30876 "2019-02-27T23:41:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That’s one syllogism we could use. There’s also: > > _Anyone who believes ‘pathetic’ Cohen testimony is a ‘fool’_; > > _Rudy Giuliani is a fool_; Ergo, > > _Rudy Giuliani believes Cohen’s testimony_. Q.E.D. That hurts to read! Stop it! _All dogs are mammals._ _Cats are mammals._ _Cats are dogs. Q.E.D._ ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30877 "2019-02-28T00:43:41Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Trump not having a good track record for hiring lawyers > > [Rudy Giuliani: Anyone who believes ‘pathetic’ Cohen testimony is a ‘fool’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-anyone-who-believes-pathetic-cohen-testimony-is-a-fool/ar-BBU9q84?li=BBnb7Kz) > > This was Trump’s lawyer for years. TRUMP believed him. Therefore…Trump is a fool! “Anybody who believes the guy who has iDJiT on tape breaking the law is a fool!” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30878 "2019-02-28T01:11:12Z")
It’s funny that Trump insists Cohen is a ‘convicted liar’… and the lie he was convicted of was saying that Trump did nothing wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30879 "2019-02-28T02:51:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It’s funny that Trump insists Cohen is a ‘convicted liar’… and the lie he was convicted of was saying that Trump did nothing wrong. [Unreal reality.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_(M._C._Escher)#/media/File:Escher%27s_Relativity.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30880 "2019-02-28T03:06:17Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I really don’t get this allegiance to Trump by the Republicans. He’s an unmitigated disaster for them, you’d think they’d privately be glad this is happening and start working on improving their post-Trump brand Because he is a racist money grubbing fascist rat bastard - JUST like every last one of them. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30881 "2019-02-28T03:07:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Cummings: “The days of this committee protecting the President are over!” > > 😃 Now he needs to go after assholes like Nunes TOO. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30882 "2019-02-28T06:08:15Z")
Not sure if this is clusterfuck yet, but: > [@](#): > > BREAKING: Major change of plans at #hanoisummit. Sarah Sanders said the talks will wrap up in next 30 to 45 min, then Trump will go back to Marriott. His presser moved up 2 hours to start at 2 p.m. Not clear but joint signing ceremony and bilateral lunch appear canceled. [Start of a Twitter thread from David Nakamura](https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/1100995164632313856) (WashPost reporter). This is some hours after [reportedly dropping](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/u-s-drops-demand-full-accounting-n-korea-nuclear-program-n977251?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma) demands for a full accounting of North Korea’s nuclear program. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30883 "2019-02-28T06:43:21Z")
White House statement: > [@](#): > > The two leaders discussed various ways to advance denuclearization and economic driven concepts. No agreement was reached at this time, but their respective teams look forward to meeting in the future. See the Twitter thread quoted above. Trump is due to have a press conference at 2pm local, 2am US Eastern. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30884 "2019-02-28T06:49:27Z")
[And Trump leaves with… bugger all.](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-kim-jong-un-summit-vietnam-february-2019/index.html) But he did give Kim credibility. Good job Donnie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1543) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1545)