# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1554
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31065 "2019-03-08T20:21:39Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Hey guys. You know that lady who owned all those massage parlors in Florida? The one where Robert Kraft goes to get his blow jobs? Well, turns out she is pals with Trump! > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/founder-of-massage-parlor-where-robert-kraft-was-arrested-is-a-trump-donor-frequent-mar-a-lago-partygoer/ar-BBUwP9E) > Boy, I have never been more shocked. Dismaying to think the POTUS has these connections. Totally whacked me out of left field, this one did. Totally. OMG, that seems totally out of line with such an upstanding Christian man like Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31066 "2019-03-08T20:25:42Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Hey guys. You know that lady who owned all those massage parlors in Florida? The one where Robert Kraft goes to get his blow jobs? Well, turns out she is pals with Trump! > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/founder-of-massage-parlor-where-robert-kraft-was-arrested-is-a-trump-donor-frequent-mar-a-lago-partygoer/ar-BBUwP9E) > Boy, I have never been more shocked. Dismaying to think the POTUS has these connections. Totally whacked me out of left field, this one did. Totally. Turns out she sold the place before Kraft’s arrest, but she still owns massage parlors which have been accused as being sites of prostitution. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31067 "2019-03-08T20:29:57Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Hey guys. You know that lady who owned all those massage parlors in Florida? The one where Robert Kraft goes to get his blow jobs? Well, turns out she is pals with Trump! > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/founder-of-massage-parlor-where-robert-kraft-was-arrested-is-a-trump-donor-frequent-mar-a-lago-partygoer/ar-BBUwP9E) > Boy, I have never been more shocked. Dismaying to think the POTUS has these connections. Totally whacked me out of left field, this one did. Totally. Melania probably pays for his visits. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31068 "2019-03-08T20:40:55Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Melania probably pays for his visits. Her favorite check to write! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31069 "2019-03-08T20:46:08Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Hey guys. You know that lady who owned all those massage parlors in Florida? The one where Robert Kraft goes to get his blow jobs? Well, turns out she is pals with Trump! > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/founder-of-massage-parlor-where-robert-kraft-was-arrested-is-a-trump-donor-frequent-mar-a-lago-partygoer/ar-BBUwP9E) > Boy, I have never been more shocked. Dismaying to think the POTUS has these connections. Totally whacked me out of left field, this one did. Totally. Not just Trump. She seems to have a lot of friends in high places at the GOP. Here she is with [Ronna McDaniel, Dan Bongino (NRA guy), Sarah Palin, Matt Gaetz](https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/1104094801228529664/photo/1),[Governor Desantis, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump](https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1104017251693486082), [Elaine Chao](https://twitter.com/CletisTStump/status/1104087572635107329), [Sebastian Gorka](https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1104090544148500481), and [Louie Gohmert](https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1104092452561059841). With all that projection with the right wing conspiracy theories regarding the Democratic party and sex trafficking, I expect by the end of the day to find out that Trump was actually born in Kenya. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31070 "2019-03-08T20:52:24Z")
During his visit to Alabama to meet with the victims of the recent tornadoes, Individual 1 autographed Bibles for his fans. > **[Trump Autographs Bibles During Visit To Church In AL Town Devastated By Tornado](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-autographs-bibles-visit-baptist-church-alabama-town-devastated-tornado)** > > At least he didn't toss paper towels at victims this time? During a visit to an Alabama town devastated by a tornado that left 23 people dead, President Trump popped into a Baptist church and… ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31071 "2019-03-08T21:02:08Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > With all that projection with the right wing conspiracy theories regarding the Democratic party and sex trafficking, I expect by the end of the day to find out that Trump was actually born in Kenya. Also, a practicing Muslim, and… Obama’s father! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31072 "2019-03-08T21:04:43Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Also, a practicing Muslim, and… Obama’s father! :eek: And that, like Obama, he fathered two African American children. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31073 "2019-03-08T21:17:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Not just Trump. She seems to have a lot of friends in high places at the GOP. Here she is with [Ronna McDaniel, Dan Bongino (NRA guy), Sarah Palin, Matt Gaetz](https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/1104094801228529664/photo/1),[Governor Desantis, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump](https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1104017251693486082), [Elaine Chao](https://twitter.com/CletisTStump/status/1104087572635107329), [Sebastian Gorka](https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1104090544148500481), and [Louie Gohmert](https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1104092452561059841). > > With all that projection with the right wing conspiracy theories regarding the Democratic party and sex trafficking, I expect by the end of the day to find out that Trump was actually born in Kenya. Add[Rick Scott](https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/kraft-spa-founder-li-yang-hung-out-with-rick-scott-ron-desantis-matt-gaetz-trump-11110348)to the list. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31074 "2019-03-08T23:56:13Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > [Bill Shine suddenly resigns](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/08/politics/bill-shine-white-house-communications/index.html). > > He’ll now be doing communications work on Agent Orange’s re-election campaign, even though they apparently didn’t need any more people to do that… Yeah, the ‘working for the campaign’ thing seems more like a fig-leaf (to avoid Shine being faced with the total humiliation of having been fired). MSNBC’s Chris Hayes posted what may be the winning tweet on the subject: > [@](#): > > Chris Hayes ‏Verified account @chrislhayes > > Luckily for Bill Shine there are lots of organizations desperate for someone whose core competency is covering up sexual harassment. > 8:54 AM - 8 Mar 2019 > ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31075 "2019-03-09T00:37:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > During his visit to Alabama to meet with the victims of the recent tornadoes, Individual 1 autographed Bibles for his fans. > [Trump Autographs Bibles During Visit To Church In AL Town Devastated By Tornado - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-autographs-bibles-visit-baptist-church-alabama-town-devastated-tornado) How long before he claims he signed because he wrote it? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31076 "2019-03-09T01:07:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > During his visit to Alabama to meet with the victims of the recent tornadoes, Individual 1 autographed Bibles for his fans. > [Trump Autographs Bibles During Visit To Church In AL Town Devastated By Tornado - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-autographs-bibles-visit-baptist-church-alabama-town-devastated-tornado) Bibles? He was signing women’s boobs. [https://www.facebook.com/357615034424156/posts/1103409403178045/](https://www.facebook.com/357615034424156/posts/1103409403178045/) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31077 "2019-03-09T02:42:04Z")
Was just watching a clip of Trump commenting on the Manafort verdict. He said that the judge said there was no collusion. No, the judge said the trial was not about collusion. Trump then proceeded to call the Russia investigation a “collusion hoak, a collusion witch hoax.” NO COLLUSION! NO WITCHES! NO COLLUSION AMONG WITCHES! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31078 "2019-03-09T02:57:23Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > How long before he claims he signed because he wrote it? He also invented autographs, so he can sign whatever he wants. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31079 "2019-03-09T03:31:52Z")
Trump seems to be turning more and more into his SNL parody. His [latest tweet](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1104159474368024599) has really been making me chuckle: > [@realDonaldTrump](#): > > .@RepMikeTurner “The only time that Michael Cohen told the truth is when he pled that he is guilty.” Also when he said no collusion and I did not tell him to lie!” ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31080 "2019-03-09T08:00:17Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > How long before he claims he signed because he wrote it? I did that once. Someone thrust one of those pocket-sized New Testaments at me coming out a Wal-Mart or something. I grabbed a pen from my pocket, scribbled my name in it, handed it back and said, “it’s always nice to meet a fan” as I walked off. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31081 "2019-03-09T14:12:29Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I did that once. Someone thrust one of those pocket-sized New Testaments at me coming out a Wal-Mart or something. I grabbed a pen from my pocket, scribbled my name in it, handed it back and said, “it’s always nice to meet a fan” as I walked off. Dude, that is Super. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31082 "2019-03-09T15:12:15Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Was just watching a clip of Trump commenting on the Manafort verdict. He said that the judge said there was no collusion. No, the judge said the trial was not about collusion. Trump then proceeded to call the Russia investigation a “collusion hoak, a collusion witch hoax.” > > NO COLLUSION! NO WITCHES! NO COLLUSION AMONG WITCHES! I’ve mentioned this before, but I think it would be great if one if the House subcommittees opened an investigation into whether Trump was actually, in fact, a witch. Then when he starts screaming “witch hunt” they could say “Well, yeah…” And yeah it might be a waste of taxpayer money to pull this stunt, but no worse than building a fucking Wall. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31083 "2019-03-09T17:42:20Z")
Stalin, Putin, Lenin, Mao, the man with the moustache — whatever their faults, at least these men were shrewd, and probaby had high IQs. Idi Amin, Muammar Gadaffi, Osama bin Laden, Al Capone, Sam Giancana — all smart people. What the U.S. should be ashamed of is _ **how stupid** _ are the crooks we elected to take over our country. Trump, the stable genius, doesn’t want anyone seeing his grades or SAT scores. Betsy DeVos, the criminal given the keys to the nation’s schools, got a B.A. from a Christian college; the over-under on her IQ is about 98. The latest punchline? Betsy’s brother, fellow moron-criminal Erik Prince, seems to [have accidentally admitted to perjury](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/erik-prince-trump-tower-meeting-blackwater-interview-mehdi-hasan-a8815446.html). Prince it seems set up a (probably illegal) meeting between a foreign emissary and his buddy Don Junior, lied about to Congress, then bragged about it on TV. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31084 "2019-03-09T19:28:26Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > I’m going to take a break from reading this thread and watching the news. In my first on this forum a couple of weeks ago I think it was Thelma Lou who said I should because he was upsetting me too much. He really wasn’t at the time; sure I went on a bit of a rant but I was feeling no different than I have since he got elected. But lately I keep thinking that the latest stupid thing he says is going to result in at least a 2-3 point drop in his approval rating. I follow it on the 538 Site. But I’m thinking that, as long as the eonomy is like it is now, unless the Mueller report says there is a recording of him on the phone with Putin talking about the election, nothing is going to do it. > > At this point, only Reagan and Carter had numbes lower than Trump, with Clinton and Ford only a couple of points higher. But all four of them were dealing with bad economies. What would Trumps rating if that were the case today? Now I am not Bill Maher hoping for a recession, so I am going to look at it from the other side. > > What could possiblly cause Trump’s rating to go up? He is not going to get a deal with North Korea, he is not going to replace the Iran deal with a better one, he is not going to get a wall built, he is not going to make a difference in the Middle East (unless he makes it worse), he is not going to bring back manufacturing and coal jobs and I’m skeptical about any great trade agreement with China happening. > > What I do see is him to doing and saying increasingly stupid things, especially as the Democratic investigation goes on. I really think on of these days he is going to have a complete meltdown on live TV. Some would say he already has, but I mean something like the Howard Dean scream (looking back I can’t believe that ended his candidacy). But I mean real screaming and ranting. He does it in private, some day he is not going to be able to keep it in. > > But even if there is no one moment or revelation, there is now where for him to go but down. And I just saw an article today saying that, by a small margin, a majority believe Cohen. This is only going to go up as documents come out. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > My hat is off to you, Mike. I wish I had the stamina to walk away. I have to keep believing that eventually the ship of state will right itself. All the best to you. 🙂 > [@RickJay](#): > > It doesn’t matter. Trump’s popularity/unpopularity is basically fixed, within a few points. It makes no difference whatsoever what he does now, or what comes out. If it came out that he told the Russians were the nuclear subs are, the Trumpists would be fine with that. Better Russian than Democrat, right? Trying this multi-quote thing. It has been a few days since my post above, so I quoted myself to give context to this: ThelmaLou, what I should have said was that I would no longer get angry, thinking YOU FUCKING IDIOT, LIAR, THIEF, FUCKING PIECE OF…whatever. I have not stopped watching the news or this thread. But I got a handle on it. The ship will right itself. He is going down. At the very least, for the rest of his life,Trump (and his whole fucking family\*), will be dealing with lawsuits and criminal charges. So, Ricky Jay. Love the name, I don’t think you saw my post “Ricky Jay walks into a shoe shine place…” Yes, it is fixed with this current economy. And for CPACers, that mythical tape would not make a difference. But it would for moderate Republicans and Independants. But even if there is no “smoking gun”, there is nothing that can cause his popularity to go up, and you can’t win an election with 42% approval rating. - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am3Dbowtkvs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am3Dbowtkvs) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1553) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1555)