# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31085 "2019-03-09T20:24:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> During his visit to Alabama to meet with the victims of the recent tornadoes, Individual 1 autographed Bibles for his fans.  
> [Trump Autographs Bibles During Visit To Church In AL Town Devastated By Tornado - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-autographs-bibles-visit-baptist-church-alabama-town-devastated-tornado)

I don’t know that I expect any differently from Trump, he’s stupid enough to not know that you don’t sign bibles.

But his supporters are what I pit in this instance, they are the ones handing him bibles to sign, those are their bibles, and they should know better, it’s their religion that they claim to take _very_ seriously whenever they want to impose it on others.

Has anyone signed bibles before? I can’t find any references to the pope doing so, nor even televangelists.

If Jesus comes back, they will not be able to get him back on the cross fast enough. At least Barrabas gets another stay of execution out of the deal.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’ve mentioned this before, but I think it would be great if one if the House subcommittees opened an investigation into whether Trump was actually, in fact, a witch. Then when he starts screaming “witch hunt” they could say “Well, yeah…”
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> And yeah it might be a waste of taxpayer money to pull this stunt, but no worse than building a fucking Wall.

Yes, but where are we going to find 239 duck feathers?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31086 "2019-03-09T20:39:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> During his visit to Alabama to meet with the victims of the recent tornadoes, Individual 1 autographed Bibles for his fans.  
> [Trump Autographs Bibles During Visit To Church In AL Town Devastated By Tornado - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-autographs-bibles-visit-baptist-church-alabama-town-devastated-tornado)

I wonder if he wrote “Grab 'em by the pussy”.

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**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31087 "2019-03-09T21:53:01Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I don’t know that I expect any differently from Trump, he’s stupid enough to not know that you don’t sign bibles.
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> But his supporters are what I pit in this instance, they are the ones handing him bibles to sign, those are their bibles, and they should know better, it’s their religion that they claim to take _very_ seriously whenever they want to impose it on others.
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> Has anyone signed bibles before? I can’t find any references to the pope doing so, nor even televangelists.
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> If Jesus comes back, they will not be able to get him back on the cross fast enough. At least Barrabas gets another stay of execution out of the deal.
> 
> Yes, but where are we going to find 239 duck feathers?

I was raised fundamental Baptist and signing Bibles was a popular thing. All us kids would go around whenever there was a missions conference or any kind of special service with a visiting missionary or evangelist and get them to sign our Bibles. It was the closest to celebrity worship we were allowed.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31088 "2019-03-09T22:23:54Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I wonder if he wrote “Grab 'em by the pussy”.

More like Jimmy Dugan’s (_A League of Their Own_) autograph message due to Trump’s “personal Vietnam”:

[“Avoid the clap”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U8pNjwn7jU)

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31089 "2019-03-09T22:33:58Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I wonder if he wrote “Grab 'em by the pussy”.

“I AM, Trump”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31090 "2019-03-09T22:48:44Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> …But his supporters are what I pit in this instance, they are the ones handing him bibles to sign, those are their bibles, and they should know better, it’s their religion that they claim to take _very_ seriously whenever they want to impose it on others.

Their ‘religion’ is racism and stick it to the other guy. They have zero idea what is in their bibles.

They ONLY reason many of these folks go to church is to be forgiven. Let’s think about that. Forgiven for what?

I’m no angle, but have lived a good honorable life. I have nothing that I need to be forgiven for.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31091 "2019-03-09T23:25:43Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Their ‘religion’ is racism and stick it to the other guy. They have zero idea what is in their bibles.

It has been my experience that the more fervent the fundamentalist, the more ignorant they are about what they are a fundamentalist about.

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> They ONLY reason many of these folks go to church is to be forgiven. Let’s think about that. Forgiven for what?

Are you asking me, or asking if they know the answer? They are being forgiven for “original sin”, we are all born as sinners and are not capable of self-salvation. Whether or not they know that is why they are supposed to be going to church is a different matter.

(not something that I believe, but I was raised religious, so I am aware of that.)

> [@](#):
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> I’m no angle,

Certainly not an obtuse one 🙂

> [@](#):
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> but have lived a good honorable life. I have nothing that I need to be forgiven for.

“Salvation comes through faith, not from works.”

(once again, not something that I believe, but something that they would believe if they knew that they were supposed to.)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31092 "2019-03-09T23:40:51Z")

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I just had somebody on another message board say that Jesus has forgiven Individual 1 for his sins, and I asked “How do you know this?”

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31093 "2019-03-10T02:25:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I just had somebody on another message board say that Jesus has forgiven Individual 1 for his sins, and I asked “How do you know this?”

Another tenet of Fundie-ism is “There is no redemption, no forgiveness, without repentance!”

According to everything I grew up with, the opposite of a Christian would be someone who says “I don’t think I need forgiveness, I’ve never done anything wrong.” (Hmmm, who was it again who said something like that during his campaign?)

This is what makes the Evangelicals’ acceptance of Trump even more repellant. They’re willing to jettison their morals and ethics and embrace someone who is the very antithesis of their faith, just so they can get… what? a chance at more power, more money, more revenge on minorities and them Ell-gee-bee-tee-Qs?

“Jesus wept.”

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31094 "2019-03-10T02:47:05Z")

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> [@TheMysteryWriter](#):
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> I was raised fundamental Baptist and signing Bibles was a popular thing. All us kids would go around whenever there was a missions conference or any kind of special service with a visiting missionary or evangelist and get them to sign our Bibles. It was the closest to celebrity worship we were allowed.

Church of Christ here. (Not the UCC, who are cool; the fundies.) I had a Bible that had signatures from family members, maybe my preacher, but they were on the inside and accompanied by favorite verses. It was hard to autograph on the front, though, because it [looked like this.](https://writness.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/cambridge-bibles-the-kjv-concord/comment-page-1/) I can’t imagine a member of the brotherhood _(sic)_ signing a Bible’s cover.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31095 "2019-03-10T02:58:01Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> This is what makes the Evangelicals’ acceptance of Trump even more repellant. They’re willing to jettison their morals and ethics and embrace someone who is the very antithesis of their faith, just so they can get… what? a chance at more power, more money, more revenge on minorities and them Ell-gee-bee-tee-Qs?
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> “Jesus wept.”

Remember [this billboard](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-christ-billboard-st-louis/) (Sponge Blob Golf Pants’ image captioned “The Word Became Flesh”\*)?

\*More like “The Seven Deadly Sins Became Flesh”, I’d say…

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**Author:** ![Anxious\_Squirrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anxious_squirrel/32/1083_2.png) [@Anxious\_Squirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anxious_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31096 "2019-03-10T03:22:05Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Church of Christ here. (Not the UCC, who are cool; the fundies.) I had a Bible that had signatures from family members, maybe my preacher, but they were on the inside and accompanied by favorite verses. It was hard to autograph on the front, though, because it [looked like this.](https://writness.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/cambridge-bibles-the-kjv-concord/comment-page-1/) I can’t imagine a member of the brotherhood _(sic)_ signing a Bible’s cover.

Oh yeah, they always signed the inside of the Bible, on the title page, or on the blank page at front or in back, wherever there was room, and they’d usually add their favorite Bible verse in. You’d have to have a paperback Bible to be able to sign the outside of it.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31097 "2019-03-10T04:06:32Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Remember [this billboard](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-christ-billboard-st-louis/) (Sponge Blob Golf Pants’ image captioned “The Word Became Flesh”\*)?
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> \*More like “The Seven Deadly Sins Became Flesh”, I’d say…

Had to be near St. Louis…

I swear, we’re not all crazies here. ☹

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31098 "2019-03-10T05:18:32Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Has anyone signed bibles before? I can’t find any references to the pope doing so, nor even televangelists.

I’ve seen Bibles which had a dedication and signature, but they were a present from someone’s Godparent to them, generally on the occasion of one of the “rite of passage” sacraments (Baptism, First Communion, Confirmation); that is, a present for things that Trump probably doesn’t even know what they are. Signing it as an author signs his book, hell to the no.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31099 "2019-03-10T05:23:32Z")

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He’s certain there was No Confirmation with Russia, though.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31100 "2019-03-10T05:37:43Z")

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On the contrary: Putin confirmed that there was no collusion, no pee tapes, and that Russia has the best whores with the best pee, which does not run down their leg, ever.

PS: I’m right now in France and it cracks me up that the transcription of the Russian dude’s name to French is Poutine. Seems like that particular variation of the recipe would give you the runs bigtime, I’m afraid.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31101 "2019-03-10T15:35:15Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> PS: I’m right now in France and it cracks me up that the transcription of the Russian dude’s name to French is Poutine. Seems like that particular variation of the recipe would give you the runs bigtime, I’m afraid.

While I’m sure that Vlad Poutine would be a dish with which to reckoned, is there actually a variation on the recipe that _doesn’t_ give you the runs?  
P.S. Autocorrect really wants to turn Poutine back into Putin.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31102 "2019-03-10T16:53:51Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Seems like that particular variation of the recipe would give you the runs bigtime, I’m afraid.

It’s the polonium.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31103 "2019-03-10T17:52:50Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> It’s the polonium.

Trump, of course, prefers his Oscar Meyer polonium sandwiches on Wonder Bread, with Kraft Singles and Miracle Whip.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31104 "2019-03-10T18:20:56Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump, of course, prefers his Oscar Meyer polonium sandwiches on Wonder Bread, with Kraft Singles and Miracle Whip.

You know that thing now where parents (inexplicably) are throwing slices of American cheese at their babies’ faces and posting pictures? I would like to see people throw slices of cheese at thump’s head at the next rally. Or maybe a wheel of Parmesan?

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