# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1557
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31125 "2019-03-11T18:50:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 says he called Tim Cook “Tim Apple” on purpose. > [President Trump insists he was saving time by calling Cook 'Tim Apple' | AppleInsider](https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/03/11/president-trump-insists-he-was-saving-time-by-calling-cook-tim-apple) Of course, Trump did. That’s because Trump is rarely capable of admitting he’s made a mistake. He’s a “stable genius” in his mind; if facts don’t agree with him it’s Fake News. Some insight on what goes on in Trump’s hamster wheel-powered brain (although, not really): [Bob Woodward: Trump thought Charlottesville cleanup ‘biggest f—ing mistake I’ve made’](https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/woodward-book-trump-charlottesville/index.html) > [@](#): > > In the book, Woodward describes how then-White House staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Trump to write a second speech to try to repair his initial comments about violence at the marches. > > Porter tried to convince the President he needed to clarify his remarks. But Trump appeared to resist, according to the book, repeatedly saying: “I don’t know about this. … This doesn’t feel right to me.” > > Eventually, Trump agreed, and two days later in a televised speech he denounced racism, the “KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups.” Woodward describes how White House aides were relieved, and chief of staff John Kelly encouraged staff to tell the President what a good job he did. > > But then Trump turned on the TV. > > One Fox News commentator gave Trump praise but also added, “That’s almost an admission of ‘Okay, I was wrong.’” Then Fox News correspondent Kevin Corke said: “Some 48 hours into the biggest domestic challenge of his young presidency, Mr. Trump has made a course correction.” > > Trump exploded at the coverage, Woodward reports. “That was the biggest fucking mistake I’ve made,” the President told Porter. “You never make those concessions. You never apologize. I didn’t do anything wrong in the first place. Why look weak?” > > Trump continued venting to Porter, Woodward writes. “I can’t believe I got forced to do that,” he said. “That’s the worst speech I’ve ever given. I’m never going to do anything like that again.” Think about this. In Trump’s mind, the biggest mistake he’s made as President (granted, it’s a while ago) was condemning "racism, the “KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups” at Charlottesville. Trump’s a preening peacock with a peabrain suffering from whatever the avian version of mange is called. See his CPAC performance. It’s all about how he thinks he looks on TV to his base and Fox News (although he’s having a spat with Ann Coulter right now). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31126 "2019-03-12T04:29:47Z")
Not surprisingly, Gavin Newsom says he never called Trump great or intelligent. ['That's not what I said': Gavin Newsom tells his version of phone call with Trump](https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-Trump-phone-call-great-president-CPAC-13680699.php)? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31127 "2019-03-12T18:02:25Z")
“Golf” Magazine calls out Individual 1 for lying about his golf prowess. > **[President Trump won a 2018 club championship — without actually playing in it!](https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/)** > > President Trump won the 2018 men's club championship at Trump International in West Palm Beach, Fla. But there's a catch: He didn't enter it. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31128 "2019-03-12T18:34:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > “Golf” Magazine calls out Individual 1 for lying about his golf prowess. > [https://www.golf.com/news/2019/03/10/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/](https://www.golf.com/news/2019/03/10/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/) Fake sports! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31129 "2019-03-12T18:52:10Z")
Is he claiming that after winning a later game with the champion they are now co-champions? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31130 "2019-03-12T19:09:34Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is he claiming that after winning a later game with the champion they are now co-champions? Close. He argued that the reason he wasn’t a champion was that he was too busy being president. So he argued/bullied/cajoled the champion into agreeing to play a round for the title, to which the champion agreed. when Trump beat him, he generously allowed him to be a “co-champion” instead of hogging it all himself. It strikes me as blatant intimidation, but what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31131 "2019-03-12T19:09:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > “Golf” Magazine calls out Individual 1 for lying about his golf prowess. > [https://www.golf.com/news/2019/03/10/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/](https://www.golf.com/news/2019/03/10/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/) Is Mr. Magoo in charge of screwing in those little plaques? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31132 "2019-03-12T19:23:04Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > So he argued/bullied/cajoled the champion into agreeing to play a round for the title, to which the champion agreed. when Trump beat him If I were a betting man, I’d wager the other dude took a dive to pacify the petulant toddler. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31133 "2019-03-12T20:02:10Z")
Trumps next summit with Kim needs to be a golf vacation. Imagine the score card. They’d be shooting rounds of 17. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31134 "2019-03-12T20:11:11Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Trumps next summit with Kim needs to be a golf vacation. Imagine the score card. They’d be shooting rounds of 17. Headlines scream “First hole-in-zeros ever recorded!” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31135 "2019-03-12T20:46:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Headlines scream “First hole-in-zeros ever recorded!” I think the Flying Tigers have that honor. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31136 "2019-03-12T20:57:37Z")
…and finally, the eagle dropped the golf ball into the hole! St. Peter looked up and said to God “You done fucking around, gonna play some golf now?”. The Archive of Ancient Punchlines, Volume 2 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31137 "2019-03-12T21:20:29Z")
What would happen if the NY AG subpoena’d Deutsche Bank for information concerning Trump loans? Well, just wait and see! > **[New York attorney general subpoenas Deutsche Bank for information related to...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?utm_term=.c8c4789d3b02)** > > The subpoenas also cover a loan that Trump sought to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills. “The New York attorney general has subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank related to three large loans the bank extended to President Trump’s company in recent years — and a fourth loan that Trump sought to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills, according to two sources familiar with the subpoenas. Those subpoenas signal a significant new inquiry by state regulators into the Trump Organization’s financing. The subpoena follows [congressional testimony by Michael Cohen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-inflated-his-total-assets-when-it-served-his-purposes-cohen-alleges-in-his-hearing-citing-financial-documents/2019/02/27/4c41d4e2-3ab3-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?utm_term=.4870b9224859) — Trump’s former lawyer and longtime self-proclaimed “fixer” — that Trump inflated his net worth in documents he sent to Deutsche Bank while seeking loans.” ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31138 "2019-03-12T21:39:23Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > What would happen if the NY AG subpoena’d Deutsche Bank for information concerning Trump loans? Well, just wait and see! > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439\_story.html?utm\_term=.c8c4789d3b02](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?utm_term=.c8c4789d3b02) > > “The New York attorney general has subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank related to three large loans the bank extended to President Trump’s company in recent years — and a fourth loan that Trump sought to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills, according to two sources familiar with the subpoenas. > Those subpoenas signal a significant new inquiry by state regulators into the Trump Organization’s financing. > The subpoena follows [congressional testimony by Michael Cohen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-inflated-his-total-assets-when-it-served-his-purposes-cohen-alleges-in-his-hearing-citing-financial-documents/2019/02/27/4c41d4e2-3ab3-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?utm_term=.4870b9224859) — Trump’s former lawyer and longtime self-proclaimed “fixer” — that Trump inflated his net worth in documents he sent to Deutsche Bank while seeking loans.” Juicy :D! I hope they stick it to Trump AND Deutsche Bank, a scumbag “politician” and a scumbag bank. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31139 "2019-03-12T21:43:32Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I think the Flying Tigers have that honor. 😛 slow clap, doffed cap. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31140 "2019-03-12T21:46:58Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > What would happen if the NY AG subpoena’d Deutsche Bank for information concerning Trump loans? Well, just wait and see! > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439\_story.html?utm\_term=.c8c4789d3b02](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?utm_term=.c8c4789d3b02) > > “The New York attorney general has subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank related to three large loans the bank extended to President Trump’s company in recent years — and a fourth loan that Trump sought to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills, according to two sources familiar with the subpoenas. > Those subpoenas signal a significant new inquiry by state regulators into the Trump Organization’s financing. > The subpoena follows [congressional testimony by Michael Cohen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-inflated-his-total-assets-when-it-served-his-purposes-cohen-alleges-in-his-hearing-citing-financial-documents/2019/02/27/4c41d4e2-3ab3-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?utm_term=.4870b9224859) — Trump’s former lawyer and longtime self-proclaimed “fixer” — that Trump inflated his net worth in documents he sent to Deutsche Bank while seeking loans.” If it’s what you say it is, I love it! Especially if it’s later in the summer. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31141 "2019-03-12T22:06:29Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If it’s what you say it is, I love it! Especially if it’s later in the summer. \ ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31142 "2019-03-12T22:09:16Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If it’s what you say it is, I love it! Especially if it’s later in the summer. _I Know What You Did Last Summer_ (film series) - _I Know What You Did Last Summer_ (1997) - _I Still Know What You Did Last Summer_ (1998) - _I’ll Always Know What You Did Last Summer_ (2006) - _I Know What You Did Later in the Summer_ (2019) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31143 "2019-03-12T22:23:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If it’s what you say it is, I love it! Especially if it’s later in the summer. I’d prefer earlier in the spring. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31144 "2019-03-12T23:17:31Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > What would happen if the NY AG subpoena’d Deutsche Bank for information concerning Trump loans? Well, just wait and see! > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439\_story.html?utm\_term=.c8c4789d3b02](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-attorney-general-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-for-information-related-to-loans-to-trump-signaling-new-inquiry/2019/03/12/2d39bc56-44d4-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?utm_term=.c8c4789d3b02) > > “The New York attorney general has subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank related to three large loans the bank extended to President Trump’s company in recent years — and a fourth loan that Trump sought to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills, according to two sources familiar with the subpoenas. > Those subpoenas signal a significant new inquiry by state regulators into the Trump Organization’s financing. > The subpoena follows [congressional testimony by Michael Cohen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-inflated-his-total-assets-when-it-served-his-purposes-cohen-alleges-in-his-hearing-citing-financial-documents/2019/02/27/4c41d4e2-3ab3-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?utm_term=.4870b9224859) — Trump’s former lawyer and longtime self-proclaimed “fixer” — that Trump inflated his net worth in documents he sent to Deutsche Bank while seeking loans.” I was thinking about something from Cohen’s public testimony - at one point he tried to minimize his bank fraud charges ( he lied on loan applications) by mentioning that he didn’t default on the loans in question. And one of those Freedom Caucus asswipes — I think it was Gym Jordan - went ballistic. And delivered a long and very detailed speech about how lying on loan applications hurts the public even if the loans don’t default. I thought to myself “HaHaHa, this is going to come back and bite you in the ass, you cretinous traitor”. Because they are going to find all those lies on Trump’s loan applications and all his defenders will be saying “It’s not that big of a deal, he repaid all the loans and no one got hurt and no one lost money.” And we will have that well rehearsed speech detailing exactly how lying on loan apps costs the public money.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1556) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1558)