# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3101 "2017-04-06T23:29:22Z")

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“[_We’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the Presidency_](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327669-trump-weve-had-one-of-the-most-successful-13-weeks-in-history).”

And that is the kind of math they plan to write the budget with.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3102 "2017-04-06T23:33:24Z")

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Trump trying to get the identity of people that criticize him in Twitter.

> **[Twitter Sues the Government to Block the Unmasking of an Account Critical of...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/technology/twitter-sues-the-government-to-block-the-unmasking-of-an-account-critical-of-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur)**
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> Twitter said it had a received a summons to reveal the owner of a so-called alt-account, whose owners say they are dissident current or former government workers.

Fuck him.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3103 "2017-04-07T00:20:55Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Trump trying to get the identity of people that criticize him in Twitter.
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> [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/technology/twitter-sues-the-government-to-block-the-unmasking-of-an-account-critical-of-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/technology/twitter-sues-the-government-to-block-the-unmasking-of-an-account-critical-of-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur)
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> Fuck him.

Wow. Alien? Done. Now it’s time for Sedition.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3104 "2017-04-07T00:27:01Z")

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Does anyone know what grounds, if any, DHS and CBP gave for demanding the user’s identity? Did they allege that the user revealed secrets or threatened someone or something. I’m obviously not a lawyer, but doesn’t there have to be some suspicion of wrongdoing before the government can try to compel someone to turn over information?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3105 "2017-04-07T00:27:14Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “[_We’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the Presidency_](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327669-trump-weve-had-one-of-the-most-successful-13-weeks-in-history).”
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> And that is the kind of math they plan to write the budget with.

I wish they wrote it this way:

“We’ve had one of the most successful [sic] 13 weeks [sic] in the history of the Presidency.”

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3106 "2017-04-07T00:37:04Z")

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Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life (fnord).

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3107 "2017-04-07T00:37:31Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “[_We’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the Presidency_](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327669-trump-weve-had-one-of-the-most-successful-13-weeks-in-history).”
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> And that is the kind of math they plan to write the budget with.

See what I mean? You cannot make this shit up. What reality does he live in?

“Successful” [princess bride] I do not think that word means what you think it means[/pb]

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3108 "2017-04-07T00:47:24Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Does anyone know what grounds, if any, DHS and CBP gave for demanding the user’s identity?

Not even Twitter does. I’m not even convinced the DHS and CBP do.

Unless something has changed in the last couple hours, the government has not revealed why, a point which Twitter brought up in their complaint.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3109 "2017-04-07T00:52:30Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> See what I mean? You cannot make this shit up. What reality does he live in?
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> “Successful” [princess bride] I do not think that word means what you think it means[/pb]

Well, part of the point is that it has been just short of 11 weeks. Perhaps he has been fundraising for 13 weeks and has a non-negative take, so far.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3110 "2017-04-07T00:57:26Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Hey, I voted for Public Policy Nerd Lady, **not the Human-Chinchilla-Troll Hybrid and his Mery Band of Post-Apocalyptic Fundamisfits.** At this point, having an actual clown as President accompanied by Barnum and Bailey’s Circus would be an improvement, and would also have had a better showing at the inauguration.
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> Stranger

Bolding mine.

Once again Stanger, you nailed it. And really, a circus knows how to work together. Not so with this bunch, so I think you are giving the current ‘administration’ whatever it is, too much credit.

It just proves that Barnum was right.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3111 "2017-04-07T01:14:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> Once again Stanger, you nailed it. And really, a circus knows how to work together. Not so with this bunch, so I think you are giving the current ‘administration’ whatever it is, too much credit.
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> It just proves that Barnum was right.

True.

Picture the Trump administration as say… a **trapeze act**. Skill, experience, strength, concentration, trust, cool heads, and above all, impeccable timing, are all necessary or… _splat_. Not to mention the ability to keep a grip on things and to count accurately. Oh yeah. _Splat_.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3112 "2017-04-07T01:22:00Z")

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I wonder if Mel Brooks has another movie in him? It’s writing itself.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3113 "2017-04-07T01:23:41Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> See what I mean? You cannot make this shit up. What reality does he live in?
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> “Successful” [princess bride] I do not think that word means what you think it means[/pb]

“Successful” isn’t the problem. Everyone’s going to gloss over their their problems and highlight their (arguable) successes.  
The problem is the inability to correctly count to 13.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3114 "2017-04-07T01:24:49Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “[_We’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the Presidency_](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327669-trump-weve-had-one-of-the-most-successful-13-weeks-in-history).”
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> And that is the kind of math they plan to write the budget with.

In addition to not even having a clue how long he’s been president, Trump sounds like he is channeling Baghdad Bob.

In all seriousness, it’s really starting to look like some kind of dementia is happening here. I expect that the next thing he’ll do is take a massive dump at a press conference, and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3115 "2017-04-07T01:25:43Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> True.
> 
> Picture the Trump administration as say… a **trapeze act**. Skill, experience, strength, concentration, trust, cool heads, and above all, impeccable timing, are all necessary or… _splat_. Not to mention the ability to keep a grip on things and to count accurately. Oh yeah. _Splat_.

Yep, but was referring to “There’s a sucker born every minute”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3116 "2017-04-07T01:27:55Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In all seriousness, it’s really starting to look like some kind of dementia is happening here. I expect that the next thing he’ll do is take a massive dump at a press conference, and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him.

OK, I had just almost succeeded in unseeing “Caviar Enema” from an earlier post and you come along and plop that appetizing image down.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3117 "2017-04-07T01:36:18Z")

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The Guardian (fwiw) is reporting [a US attack on Homs](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live), Syria. They are saying a ship fired 60 tomahawk cruise missiles on the city.

What the ever loving fuck? Why attack Homs? The town that Hafez all but razed a few decades back.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3118 "2017-04-07T01:37:12Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The Guardian (fwiw) is reporting a US attack on Homs, Syria. They are saying a ship fired 60 tomahawk cruise missiles on the city.
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> What the ever loving fuck? Why attack Homs? The town that Hafez all but razed a few decades back.

Airbase where the chemical weapons attack was launched from.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3119 "2017-04-07T01:40:21Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In addition to not even having a clue how long he’s been president, Trump sounds like he is channeling Baghdad Bob.
> 
> In all seriousness, it’s really starting to look like some kind of dementia is happening here. I expect that the next thing he’ll do is take a massive dump at a press conference, and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him.

Post-truth, post-sanity, and now post-calendars and next, post-toilets! MAGA!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3120 "2017-04-07T01:42:19Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The Guardian (fwiw) is reporting [a US attack on Homs](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live), Syria. They are saying a ship fired 60 tomahawk cruise missiles on the city.
> 
> What the ever loving fuck? Why attack Homs? The town that Hafez all but razed a few decades back.

Watching coverage on BBC world news now.

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