# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1566
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31305 "2019-03-19T02:44:09Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Oh, gawd. The next "[Vince Foster](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-krueger/alan-krueger-economic-adviser-to-obama-and-clinton-takes-own-life-at-58-idUSKCN1QZ244)."How long before the Trump “deep state” proponents start yipping? If anyone sees a want ad for Deep State Hitman, let me know. I’m a teacher with no plans this summer… ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31306 "2019-03-19T03:12:16Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I really don’t see a way any of this ends well for her. Fox News pundit, baby! She shouldn’t be compared to Goebbels. Monkey Joe possessed a certain vile genius; Kelly is just vile. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31307 "2019-03-19T03:39:36Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Fox News pundit, baby! But that’s the thing, unlike say Sarah Palin I’m not picking up much love for her from the MAGAheads. They seem to think she’s as much of an asshole as we think she is - a useful asshole for the moment, but still an asshole. ETA : plus I mean, from the highest levels of power to Fox & Friends, that’s quite a bit of a step _down_, isn’t it ? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31308 "2019-03-19T03:43:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Oh, gawd. The next “[Vince Foster](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-krueger/alan-krueger-economic-adviser-to-obama-and-clinton-takes-own-life-at-58-idUSKCN1QZ244).” > > (Reuters) > > How long before the Trump “deep state” proponents start yipping? I"m expecting something a little different - probably something to the effect that he was so ashamed of being an Obama and Clinton advisor, he took his own life. Basically, both vile and a lie - suits Trump perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31309 "2019-03-19T03:45:40Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > But that’s the thing, unlike say Sarah Palin I’m not picking up much love for her from the MAGAheads. They seem to think she’s as much of an asshole as we think she is - a useful asshole for the moment, but still an asshole. > ETA : plus I mean, from the highest levels of power to Fox & Friends, that’s quite a bit of a step _down_, isn’t it ? Well, she’d be following in the Turdblossom’s steps, which seems pretty appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31310 "2019-03-19T03:50:50Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The State Department held a [Christian’s only](https://nypost.com/2019/03/18/state-department-holds-call-exclusively-for-faith-based-media/)media event today. I mean, technically it was only “faith based media” but since they [refuse](https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/1107803641602285568) to release a transcript or even who was invited, it’s quite safe to assume and the White House is free to prove that wrong. From your link: > [@](#): > > sprays by the Secretary of State and other officials Given what we know about one individual official’s proclivities, that is probably not the terminology one should use for such an event. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31311 "2019-03-19T04:03:04Z")
I would cheerfully spray all OVER the “faith based media.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31312 "2019-03-19T04:11:00Z")
That reminded me of a very old cartoon (from an older College Humor compilation) showing a Skunk school and the Skunk teacher raises her hand and calls attention to the little ones: “Children! Let us Spray!” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31313 "2019-03-19T11:58:22Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Republicans have spent decades trying to tie crazier things to the Clintons, so here I bravely put forth the notion that the following involves Trump. > … > “The reputed boss of the Gambino crime family was shot and killed steps from his front door on Staten Island in what is believed to be the first shooting death of a mob boss in New York in three decades. …” > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Word is that they found a note left at the scene: “YOU’RE NEXT DONALD,” written on the back of a Trump Hotel room service menu. Everybody pass it on to five of your friends! “The man suspected of gunning down a New York City mob boss appeared in court Monday with the phrases “MAGA Forever” and “United We Stand MAGA” scrawled across his left hand.” > **[Suspect in NYC Mafia boss killing has pro-Trump slogans written on hand in court](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-nyc-mafia-boss-killing-has-pro-trump-slogans-written-n984611)** > > The 24-year-old suspect is alleged to have killed Francesco "Franky boy" Cali outside his home. Investigators believe the crime was unrelated to Cali's mob activities. Well, it’s not nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31314 "2019-03-19T14:01:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Word is that they found a note left at the scene: “YOU’RE NEXT DONALD,” written on the back of a Trump Hotel room service menu. Everybody pass it on to five of your friends! Obviously fabricated. If it were real, it would read “YOUR NEXT DONALD.” ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31315 "2019-03-19T14:05:07Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Well, she’d be following in the Turdblossom’s steps, which seems pretty appropriate. Paul Ryan is joining the board of directors at Fox. Not sure how that is better than Congress, but it is what they do. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31316 "2019-03-19T14:24:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Obviously fabricated. If it were real, it would read “YOUR NEXT DONALD.” 😃 That’s EXACTLY what I thought when I read that! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31317 "2019-03-19T14:32:42Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Paul Ryan is joining the board of directors at Fox. Not sure how that is better than Congress, but it is what they do. Apparently, it’s “everybody in the pool!” over at FOX. [Fox News hires Donna Brazile as political contributor](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fox-news-hires-donna-brazile-as-political-contributor/2019/03/18/6bc20a9e-499a-11e9-8cfc-2c5d0999c21e_story.html?utm_term=.36ccd6edf02f) > [@](#): > > NEW YORK — Former Democratic National Committee chief Donna Brazile, who was fired by CNN for tipping off the Hillary Clinton campaign about debate topics in 2016, has joined Fox News Channel as a political commentator. > > Brazile said Monday she knows fellow liberals will criticize her for joining Fox, but that it’s important for people not to retreat to “safe spaces” where they just talk to people who agree with them. > > “There’s an audience on Fox News that doesn’t hear enough from Democrats,” Brazile said in a statement. > … > > She’ll now be going to work alongside some people at Fox who hammered her in the aftermath of the leaked questions story. > > On the day that she admitted to tipping Clinton’s team, guests on the Fox commentary program “The Five” lit into her. “She’s as corrupt as the day is long,” then-panelist Eric Bolling said. > … > > Brazile said that if Americans learned anything from the 2016 election, “it is that we can’t have a country where we don’t talk to those who disagree with our political views.” > … Yeah, tipping someone off about OBVIOUS questions that are going to be asked in a debate is the \*\*\*epitome \*\*\*of corruption. A hangin’ offense. :rolleyes: Hell, _I_ could have told Hillary what the questions were going to be. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31318 "2019-03-19T14:45:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Obviously fabricated. If it were real, it would read “YOUR NEXT DONALD.” I didn’t want the first one, let alone another. Although one that’s already deceased is a bit of an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31319 "2019-03-19T14:49:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yes, yes, yes! > > Whoever the next Democratic candidate for president is, s/he should run on that simple platform, i.e., \*Return to Normalcy. \* > > The country breathed a collective sigh of relief when Gerald Ford succeeded Nixon as president. The relief after thump [del]would[/del] will be even greater. No. 1. Two counter-slogans will immediately pop up- “They Want To Return To Mediocrity” and “Don’t Let Them Tell You What Is ‘Normal’” 2. There will be a concerted effort to make each candidate define what is “normal”, and then it will be pointed out that “Even _they_ can’t agree on what “normal” is!” ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31320 "2019-03-19T14:54:26Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I can’t figure out his angle. Or if it’s THEIR angle. Is he genuinely concerned and they have a Carville/Matalin thing going where they know where the other stands and do their own thing? Or are do they know the ship is going down and he’s doing pre-emptive reputation rehab? > > Someone pointed out on Twitter that the latter seems more likely, or at least that it’s some kind of planned coordination because President Butthurt never goes after Conway and he’s exactly the type of person he would normally come up with some oh-so-clever nickname for. > > I’d go for Spurious George myself, but I have bigly words and have read a fucking book. He’d probably go for the obvious ConMAN. Kellyanne was bashing Trump during the primary season when she worked for Cruz. And Trump is incapable of letting any slight go by: [Trump unloads on George Conway, in his newest, strangest feud](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics/donald-trump-popularity-reelection/index.html) > [@](#): > > For Donald Trump, feuding comes as easily as breathing. > > His escalating social media altercation with George Conway, the husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, is the latest example of how the President just cannot resist a fight. But it also offers a fresh glimpse into a personality that is built on conflict, the search for an enemy and an insatiable quest for personal victories. > > … > > The President reopened hostilities with George Conway on Tuesday morning, after the well-known lawyer on Monday tweeted a definition of narcissistic personality disorder to suggest that Trump showed many of the symptoms. > > “A total loser!” Trump wrote, while retweeting a claim by his 2020 campaign manager Brad Parscale that Conway was sore because Trump refused to give him an administration job he wanted. > > Conway was quick to double down in their feud, tweeting at the President: “Congratulations! You just guaranteed that millions of more people are going to learn about narcissistic personality disorder and malignant narcissism! Great job!” As an anecdote, I was going back and forth on Facebook with some Trumpsters the first day of Trump’s presidency after he gave his CIA speech in front of their memorial wall. Trump had bragged about his crowd size, said he was a very smart person, that it had stopped raining when he gave his inaugural speech, and how the US should commit the war crime of taking Iraq’s oil. I said Trump was lying, disrespectful, and he was mentally ill. “How can such a great and successful businessman be mentally ill?” one guy responded. I replied “Read this.” and posted the link to the Wikipedia article about [Narcissistic personality disorder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder). To me, this has always been obvious. Now we probably have dementia, as well. Another guy asked for an example of any Trump lie. I went with how about when Trump said: “I’m, like, a very smart person.” ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31321 "2019-03-19T15:15:29Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > To me, this has always been obvious. Now we probably have dementia, as well. It has been obvious [to others](https://www.adutytowarn.org/) as well. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31322 "2019-03-19T15:30:57Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > …I replied “Read this.” and posted the link to the Wikipedia article about [Narcissistic personality disorder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder). > > To me, this has always been obvious. Now we probably have dementia, as well. > > Another guy asked for an example of any Trump lie. I went with how about when Trump said: “I’m, like, a very smart person.” Not to mention, a bunch of shrinks wrote a book about it a year and a half ago (October 2017). They were criticized because they had not met the patient. Thump doesn’t know the meaning of an unexpressed [del]thought[/del] tweet, so why does anyone need to meet him? > [@Book: "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump..."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/book-the-dangerous-case-of-donald-trump/797247/1): > > Full title: _[The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President](https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists-ebook/dp/B07262SJDC)_ If there’s already a thread on this, I missed it. Also, I put it in CS, 'cause it’s a book, but maybe it needs to be moved? > > > [@](#): > > > > Amazon blurb: The consensus view of two dozen psychiatrists and psychologists that Trump is dangerously mentally ill and that he presents a clear and present danger to the nation and our own mental health. > > Reviewed in the Washington Post along with other books on related topics. > > > [@](#): > > > > Gone are the days when euphemisms about President Trump’s mental health insulated the man like so many padded walls. Erratic. Unpredictable. Unstable. Unmoored. Temperamentally unfit. This was what politicians and commentators said when they wished to question Trump’s state of mind but feared the consequences of a more colloquial assessment. Yet the deeper we plunge into this presidency, the more willing people become to call it like they see and hear it. > > … > > > > Now, some psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are shedding long-held norms to argue that Trump’s condition presents risks to the nation and the world. “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” features more than two dozen essays breaking down the president’s perceived traits, which the contributors find consistent with symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder, sociopathy and other maladies. “Collectively with our coauthors, we warn that anyone as mentally unstable as Mr. Trump simply should not be entrusted with the life-and-death powers of the presidency,” Judith Lewis Herman of Harvard Medical School and Bandy X. Lee of the Yale School of Medicine write in the book’s prologue… > > [Cite](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/09/22/is-trump-mentally-ill-or-is-america-psychiatrists-weigh-in/?utm_term=.247bd47ab100) It’s gotten worse, and unfortunately, we’re getting used to it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31323 "2019-03-19T15:35:53Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Paul Ryan is joining the board of directors at Fox. Not sure how that is better than Congress, but it is what they do. For one thing, the America-hating fuckstick _listens_ when FOXNews says something… ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31324 "2019-03-19T15:40:25Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Not to mention, a bunch of shrinks wrote a book about it a year and a half ago (October 2017). They were criticized because they had not met the patient. Thump doesn’t know the meaning of an unexpressed [del]thought[/del] tweet, so why does anyone need to meet him? > > It’s gotten worse, and unfortunately, we’re getting used to it. But we’re okay, aren’t we, until he appoints _Alibi/D.J. Trump_ to the Senate? > **[Trump once almost killed a racehorse named D.J. Trump](https://theweek.com/speedreads/700230/trump-once-almost-killed-racehorse-named-dj-trump)** > > The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1565) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1567)