# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3121 "2017-04-07T01:43:28Z")
Looks like we’re at war with Syria. Have we always been at war with Syria? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3122 "2017-04-07T01:50:25Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Post-truth, post-sanity, and now post-calendars and next, post-toilets! MAGA! You forgot post-turtles. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3123 "2017-04-07T01:55:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Looks like we’re at war with Syria. Have we always been at war with Syria? Nope. It’s now a proxy war with Russia. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3124 "2017-04-07T01:59:53Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Yep, but was referring to “There’s a sucker born every minute” I know you were. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3125 "2017-04-07T02:01:29Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You forgot post-turtles. No, I think it’s still turtles all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3126 "2017-04-07T02:27:51Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Not even Twitter does. I’m not even convinced the DHS and CBP do. > > Unless something has changed in the last couple hours, the government has not revealed why, a point which Twitter brought up in their complaint. NPR has an article about this story that says: [Quote=NPR] Furthermore, [Twitter’s lawyers] say the tool DHS used to demand the information — a Customs and Border Patrol administrative summons — is only meant to allow CBP to demand information about imported merchandise. “It is apparent that whatever investigation Defendants are conducting here does not pertain to imported merchandise,” the complaint says. As a side note, they point out that the summons was delivered on March 14, with a deadline of March 13 — that is, already in the past. [/quote] The malice is, at least, tempered by incompetence. I guess I’m grateful for that. > **[Twitter Sues Homeland Security To Protect Anonymity Of 'Alt Immigration' Account](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/06/522914335/twitter-sues-homeland-security-to-protect-anonymity-of-alt-immigration-account?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170406?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170406)** > > After the Trump administration set limits on some government Twitter accounts, anonymous "rogue accounts" popped up. Homeland Security demanded to know who was behind one; Twitter is fighting back. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3127 "2017-04-07T02:42:49Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The malice is, at least, tempered by incompetence. I guess I’m grateful for that. “Malice tempered by incompetence” If someone can turn that into Latin I think it would make an excellent motto for this administration. . ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3128 "2017-04-07T02:52:35Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > “Successful” isn’t the problem. Everyone’s going to gloss over their their problems and highlight their (arguable) successes. > The problem is the inability to correctly count to 13. There are really so many things that could come after “inability”. > [@eschereal](#): > > The Guardian (fwiw) is reporting [a US attack on Homs](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live), Syria. They are saying a ship fired 60 tomahawk cruise missiles on the city. > > What the ever loving fuck? Why attack Homs? The town that Hafez all but razed a few decades back. I’m afraid to ask about civilians. Sweet Og. I just went to dinner and this shit happens. Guess I’ll go look at the BBC. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3129 "2017-04-07T03:02:50Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > “Malice tempered by incompetence” > > If someone can turn that into Latin I think it would make an excellent motto for this administration. According to my handy-dandy Google Translate, it’s: > [@](#): > > Nam malitia temperari incompetentem declaret. Personally, I think the following is what the real motto is: > [@](#): > > Nescio Damnare est, bigot ego sum, et ego non curo quid non verum etiam et ipsa hominum. Simplified to: > [@](#): > > Pedicabo ego vos. Ego sum Praeses. Quae omnia refert. Yeah, I took a few liberties, there; however, nothing untoward, unlike Trump. Now, wouldn’t it be nice if Trump would stop doing untoward acts? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3130 "2017-04-07T03:03:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Looks like we’re at war with Syria. Have we always been at war with Syria? No, but we’ve always wanted to intervene there. Always, believe me. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3131 "2017-04-07T03:21:54Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I expect that the next thing he’ll do is take a massive dump at a press conference, and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him. > [@eschereal](#): > > OK, I had just almost succeeded in unseeing “Caviar Enema” from an earlier post and you come along and plop that appetizing image down. I own 2 of these [Trump caganer](https://www.caganer.com/en/politicians/caganer-donald-trump-853.html)s. One is on display; the other is bagged and in a box. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3132 "2017-04-07T03:33:32Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I own 2 of these [Trump caganer](https://www.caganer.com/en/politicians/caganer-donald-trump-853.html)s. One is on display; the other is bagged and in a box. Why or how is caganer a thing? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3133 "2017-04-07T03:36:47Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > …and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him. Can you prove it _isn’t_? No? Well, then… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3134 "2017-04-07T03:42:32Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Why or how is caganer a thing? For the same reason that being urinated upon by a Russian prostitute is a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3135 "2017-04-07T04:00:19Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Why or how is caganer a thing? > [@eschereal](#): > > For the same reason that being urinated upon by a Russian prostitute is a thing. Errr… not quite. A caganer is a Catalan nativity figurine that depicts a person taking a poop. “El Caganer” actually means “the pooper” (or “the one who defecates” or “the shitter” or whatever other phrase you choose). They date to the 18th century as a tradition. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3136 "2017-04-07T07:49:18Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I wish they wrote it this way: > > “We’ve had one of the most successful [sic] 13 weeks [sic] in the history of the Presidency.” Give him a break, he has only ten fingers, after that we are all guessing, right? Also it’s very hard to keep track with so tiny fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3137 "2017-04-07T11:03:00Z")
Wow, if [this is a Trump supporter having a major disagreement with him](https://mobile.twitter.com/undefined/status/850244948528054272/photo/1) (the “my take” section in particular), I really wouldn’t be surprised if they’d somehow justify him betraying every single thing they voted him in for. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3138 "2017-04-07T12:30:37Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > OK, I had just almost succeeded in unseeing “Caviar Enema” from an earlier post and you come along and plop that appetizing image down. And now we have to unsee Caviar Enema. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3139 "2017-04-07T13:01:20Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > And now we have to unsee Caviar Enema. Caviar enema is related to “caveat emptor,” right? I’m trying keep up. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3140 "2017-04-07T13:33:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Caviar enema is related to “caveat emptor,” right? I’m trying keep up. I remember seeing it as a descriptor for one of the two factions competing for Trump’s attention in the White House: Bannon’s “Burn-it-to-the-ground” faction and Jared’s “Caviar-enema” faction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=156) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=158)