# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31405 "2019-03-27T22:45:24Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Yeah, using an insecure email server will someday be looked upon as an extremely minor offense.

[Someday?](https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-private-email/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31406 "2019-03-27T22:58:22Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I have to wonder whether Trump thinks that only Democrats buy insurance through the ACA exchanges, and that this is his way of sticking it to them.

No, no, no. Everyone knows that Democrats get their insurance through Obamacare, which, as the CFSG has often said, is an absolute nightmare and needs to go.

Republicans get their healthcare through the ACA exchanges, and every one of them knows that of course Little Donny has no intention of messing up their insurance.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31407 "2019-03-28T01:42:38Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> [Someday?](https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-private-email/index.html)

My post was definitely of the sarcastic variety…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31408 "2019-03-28T02:28:52Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> No, no, no. Everyone knows that Democrats get their insurance through Obamacare, which, as the CFSG has often said, is an absolute nightmare and needs to go.
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> Republicans get their healthcare through the ACA exchanges, and every one of them knows that of course Little Donny has no intention of messing up their insurance.

No, no, no, you’re still off the mark.

Truly smart people, like Trump, just don’t pay their medical bills at all.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31409 "2019-03-28T02:52:05Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The rule of law won’t save us. The Constitution won’t save us.
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> What will save us?

There is no rule of law. Forget that.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31410 "2019-03-28T02:53:27Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > The RNC is “going to make whoever the nominee is radioactive well before they get the nomination,” a former campaign official told Axios. “That’s Trump’s strategy. Stay at 45-46% [in the polls] and just make the other guy radioactive.”
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> …
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> And if they don’t have a social media presence, that alone will be grounds for suspicion.

I’m not at all shocked by this. It’s what they did to Hillary Clinton, after all. Decades of demonization. And you can see them spinning up the same plan against AOC, practically in real-time.

I’ve said before that anyone who declares for the Presidency this early in the game will be a target for the same BS, and here we see it.

What we need is for the whole current crop of Democratic Candidates to take one for the team - be the targets for months of GOP bullshit, and then, all drop out at the last minute, letting some late-joiner take the nomination, without the burden of a full year’s worth of this treatment. Just make the GOP waste all that time and effort.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31411 "2019-03-28T03:15:37Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I’m not at all shocked by this. It’s what they did to Hillary Clinton, after all. Decades of demonization. And you can see them spinning up the same plan against AOC, practically in real-time.
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> I’ve said before that anyone who declares for the Presidency this early in the game will be a target for the same BS, and here we see it.
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> What we need is for the whole current crop of Democratic Candidates to take one for the team - be the targets for months of GOP bullshit, and then, all drop out at the last minute, letting some late-joiner take the nomination, without the burden of a full year’s worth of this treatment. Just make the GOP waste all that time and effort.

It’s the break the Hillary campaign’s been waiting for!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31412 "2019-03-28T05:39:42Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Okaaay, sorry to change the subject, however: Does anyone else think it is clusterfucky that the Barr letter plainly states that Russia interfered in our elections, and so far the only response out of this administration is to falsely claim exoneration and to attack Democrats?

And not only that but that there were “multiple offer by the Russians to assist with the Trump campaign” which the conveniently forgot to mention to the FBI at the time.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31413 "2019-03-28T05:58:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> No, no, no, you’re still off the mark.
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> Truly smart people, like Trump, just don’t pay their medical bills at all.

Take that back! Trump doesn’t have medical bills: his health is the greatest, the greatest ever, so great you would not believe it and his doctors are so amazingly happy to find themselves in his presence that they pay him to visit them.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31414 "2019-03-28T10:05:22Z")

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Trump’s pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in back taxes.

> **[Trump's pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in taxes, court...](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/trumps-fed-pick-stephen-moore-owes-75000-in-taxes-government-says.html)**
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> Presumptive Federal Reserve nominee Stephen Moore owes more than $75,000 in taxes and other penalties, a court filing indicates.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31415 "2019-03-28T13:40:37Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump’s pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in back taxes.
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> [Trump's pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in taxes, court record shows](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/trumps-fed-pick-stephen-moore-owes-75000-in-taxes-government-says.html)

:smack:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31416 "2019-03-28T13:49:46Z")

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Most of Trump’s political henchpersons could raise 75 large by turning the cushions on their couch.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31417 "2019-03-28T14:13:26Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump’s pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in back taxes.
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> [Trump's pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in taxes, court record shows](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/trumps-fed-pick-stephen-moore-owes-75000-in-taxes-government-says.html)

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but Moore was one of the clowns that designed the tax-cutting ‘experiment’ in Kansas that failed miserably. He then had the balls to defend it in an op-ed in the _Kansas City Star_, using dubious data.

[https://archives.cjr.org/united\_states\_project/stephen\_moore\_heritage\_foundation\_paul\_krugman\_kansas\_city\_star.php](https://archives.cjr.org/united_states_project/stephen_moore_heritage_foundation_paul_krugman_kansas_city_star.php)

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31418 "2019-03-28T14:15:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Most of Trump’s political henchpersons could raise 75 large by turning the cushions on their couch.

They have people for that.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31419 "2019-03-28T14:43:13Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> They have people for that.

Outstanding!

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31420 "2019-03-28T15:50:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump’s pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in back taxes.
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> [Trump's pick for Federal Reserve owes more than $75,000 in taxes, court record shows](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/trumps-fed-pick-stephen-moore-owes-75000-in-taxes-government-says.html)

As with Kavanaugh’s debts, they will be paid soon.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31421 "2019-03-28T17:57:09Z")

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Individual 1 calls for Adam Schiff to be forcibly removed from Congress.  
[https://www.mediaite.com/online/president-trump-calls-for-the-forced-resignation-of-rep-adam-schiff](https://www.mediaite.com/online/president-trump-calls-for-the-forced-resignation-of-rep-adam-schiff)

Individual 1 praises countries that aim machine guns at immigrants

> **[Trump Says Other Countries Aim Machine Guns At Migrants, But U.S. Won’t](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/28/donald-trump-countries-aim-machine-guns-at-migrants/23701843/)**
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> Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that pointing machine guns at migrants is a “very effective” deterrent but he “wouldn’t want to do it.”

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31422 "2019-03-28T21:41:40Z")

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Apparently Trump has overridden Betsy “Am-Way in Over My Head” DeVos’ decision to cut finding to the Special Olympics.

> **[Trump backs off proposed cuts to Special Olympics: 'I have overridden my people'](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-special-olympics-1242765)**
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> Education Secretary Betsy DeVos said that 'this is funding I have fought for behind the scenes for the last several years.'

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31423 "2019-03-28T21:56:12Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Apparently Trump has overridden Betsy “Am-Way in Over My Head” DeVos’ decision to cut finding to the Special Olympics.
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> [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-special-olympics-1242765](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-special-olympics-1242765)

I’m sure he’ll find it too tough to watch those Olympics on TV, as he did before.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31424 "2019-03-28T22:45:19Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Apparently Trump has overridden Betsy “Am-Way in Over My Head” DeVos’ decision to cut finding to the Special Olympics.
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> [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-special-olympics-1242765](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-special-olympics-1242765)

The second time in a week that he’s overridden a Cabinet secretary (the other being Treasury, and sanctions on North Korea.)

Setting aside for the moment the fact that his secretaries are terrible and their decisions are likewise … there are probably dozens of staffers in those departments who were putting in long hours, frantically meeting, cranking out position papers to get their department’s priorities straight and message clear and all their i’s dotted and t’s crossed. Just to have them tossed on the whim of our petulant emperor. I’d be seriously pissed off.

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