# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31445 "2019-03-29T14:12:02Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Trump yesterday in Grand Rapids:
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> [Unchained Trump Rages In First Rally After Mueller Report Drops: 'These People Are Sick' | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-attacks-democrats-michigan-rally_n_5c9d6325e4b00ba632799519)

So they’re bad because they’re elites, but also bad because they’re less elite than him. OK then. Makes sense !

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31446 "2019-03-29T14:49:42Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> This is not my beautiful house!  
> This is not my beautiful wife!

How did I get here?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31447 "2019-03-29T14:53:19Z")

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My god, what have you done?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31448 "2019-03-29T15:42:41Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> > [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > Trump yesterday in Grand Rapids:
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> > [Unchained Trump Rages In First Rally After Mueller Report Drops: 'These People Are Sick' | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-attacks-democrats-michigan-rally_n_5c9d6325e4b00ba632799519)
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> So they’re bad because they’re elites, but also bad because they’re less elite than him. OK then. Makes sense !

That’s hilarious but also very telling. Do other world leaders display their insecurities so nakedly?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31449 "2019-03-29T15:55:05Z")

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> [@Little Donnie Fail-Fail](#):
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> And I’m president, and they’re not.

[Any man who must say ‘I am the king’ is no true king.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJY7BTIuPY)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31450 "2019-03-29T15:59:48Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> {…} Do other world leaders display their insecurities so nakedly?

Please, don’t tempt him to pull a Johnson and pull out his johnson.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31451 "2019-03-29T16:42:24Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Ten years ago would anyone have believed that the President of the United States would say anything like this is a public address?

10, 20, 30, 40, 50…never. Nixon had more class than this, though Nixon surrounded himself with the same calibre of miscreant. Yet the people who complained about a tan suit being un-presidential are perfectly OK with this.

That is why Trump supporters are DEAD to me. I will never, ever trust their judgment on anything.

ETA: If one is a Republican/Conservative, and realize (and should have realized since day fucking 1) what a shitshow your party has created, that’s fine. But what the general Republican party has become is, like they do with everything, what they call their enemies who wear the same red: RINO. Because the general Republican party of Trump, McConnell, Ryan, Nunes, _et al_ are Facists.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31452 "2019-03-29T16:44:21Z")

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Gyrate, I just have to say that was genius.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31453 "2019-03-29T16:58:07Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> 10, 20, 30, 40, 50…never. Nixon had more class than this, though Nixon surrounded himself with the same calibre of miscreant.

I don’t believe that Trump has yet sent someone to stop an operative from killing someone.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31454 "2019-03-29T17:03:39Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> 10, 20, 30, 40, 50…never. Nixon had more class than this, though Nixon surrounded himself with the same calibre of miscreant. Yet the people who complained about a tan suit being un-presidential are perfectly OK with this.
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> That is why Trump supporters are DEAD to me. I will never, ever trust their judgment on anything.
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> ETA: If one is a Republican/Conservative, and realize (and should have realized since day fucking 1) what a shitshow your party has created, that’s fine. But what the general Republican party has become is, like they do with everything, what they call their enemies who wear the same red: RINO. Because the general Republican party of Trump, McConnell, Ryan, Nunes, _et al_ are Facists.

"It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character. "

–Joseph Heller, Catch 22

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31455 "2019-03-29T17:11:25Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I don’t believe that Trump has yet sent someone to stop an operative from killing someone.  
> 🙂

And that is literally the best thing one can say about him.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31456 "2019-03-29T19:26:02Z")

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Trump Threatens to Close the Border. Again.

> **[Donald Trump is threatening to close the border](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-threatens-to-close-the-border-again/)**
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> This time there's a date.

> [@](#):
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> But for the first time, Trump is getting specific. He tweeted on Friday morning that he will close the border “next week” if “Mexico doesn’t immediately stop ALL illegal immigration.” There’s no way Mexico can stop all migrants from traveling north, so Trump will either have to back down again or make good on this threat.  
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> Trump had tweeted on Thursday that he “may” close the border. Lou Dobbs, an informal adviser to Trump, used his show that night on the Fox Business Network to encourage Trump to close the border. Also on Thursday night, Rush Limbaugh appeared on Sean Hannity’s Fox show to urge Trump to shut down the border, claiming that he’d be sure to win reelection if he did so. Trump introduced the new timeline for shutting down the border the next morning.

Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity are running the country. God help us.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31457 "2019-03-29T19:30:55Z")

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America: governed by its crazy uncle since January 2017.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31458 "2019-03-29T23:04:25Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> As cynical as I crave to be about this, he apparently has a special-needs child of his own, so the mother of that child probably leaned on him pretty hard to make this cut not happen.

Not impossible. But it seems more likely to me that it was planned from the beginning by some genius in the Trump circle, when the WH budget plan was being slapped together:

‘_everyone will run around with their hair on fire when DeVos announces this and she’ll try to defend it and will look like a heartless moron and it will be HILARIOUS. Then you can ride in like a knight in shining armor and announce you are the Savior of the Special Olympics. This will keep the media busy and off the topic of Russia, for sure._’

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31459 "2019-03-29T23:11:17Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Trump yesterday in Grand Rapids:
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> > [@](#):
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> > … “I have a better education than them, I’m smarter than them. I went to the best schools. They didn’t,” he said. “Much more beautiful house, much more beautiful apartment. Much more beautiful everything. And I’m president, and they’re not.”
> 
> [Unchained Trump Rages In First Rally After Mueller Report Drops: 'These People Are Sick' | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-attacks-democrats-michigan-rally_n_5c9d6325e4b00ba632799519) …

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s hilarious but also very telling. Do other world leaders display their insecurities so nakedly?

This is it. The rampant, blatant, _pathetic_ insecurity on display.

60 million Americans thought that a person so sad and small and ridiculous would make a great President.

Bully-worshipers are lacking in basic intelligence. There’s no other possible explanation. I mean, sure, they love the racism----but you’d think they’d want a racist who possessed some fundamental self-esteem. You’d think they’d reject someone so weak and anxious and neurotic.

It’s a continuing head-scratcher.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31460 "2019-03-29T23:24:03Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> …  
> you’d think they’d want a racist who possessed some fundamental self-esteem.

Does such a thing exist?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31461 "2019-03-29T23:31:34Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Trump Threatens to Close the Border. Again.  
> [Trump Threatens to Close the Border. Again. – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-threatens-to-close-the-border-again)
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> Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity are running the country. God help us.

Since when is it Mexico’s responsibility to defend another country’s borders? On top of that, that jackass tarnishing the once respected office of the president of the United States of America has been punishing (in various ways) those who are attempting to enter the USA in compliance with USA law.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31462 "2019-03-29T23:34:38Z")

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Well, yeah. They’re just as brown as the people trying to immigrate illegally, aren’t they?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31463 "2019-03-29T23:38:03Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Not impossible. But it seems more likely to me that it was planned from the beginning by some genius in the Trump circle, when the WH budget plan was being slapped together:
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> ‘_everyone will run around with their hair on fire when DeVos announces this and she’ll try to defend it and will look like a heartless moron and it will be HILARIOUS. Then you can ride in like a knight in shining armor and announce you are the Savior of the Special Olympics. This will keep the media busy and off the topic of Russia, for sure._’

The sad thing is that this isn’t all that unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31464 "2019-03-30T00:05:20Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Trump Threatens to Close the Border. Again.  
> [Trump Threatens to Close the Border. Again. – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-threatens-to-close-the-border-again)
> 
> Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity are running the country. God help us.

Dems should take a look at the Trump family (and friends) stock purchases.

Not to say that the border isn’t having an emergency (of sorts) but between the December crash and (assuming this comes), it would be a pretty amazing use of the Presidency to execute a few Pump and Dump schemes. (Or, in Trump’s case, “Deflate, wait for resurgence, and dump.”)

As to the actually DHS emergency, I’m sure that their crisis will be handily averted by being asked to shut down the entire US/Mexico border, at the same time as dealing with their overcrowding issue. :dubious:

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