# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1578
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31545 "2019-04-02T12:17:13Z")
“If the girls don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.” - Red Green ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31546 "2019-04-02T12:17:54Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I took it as something in between the two - that “handy” means “well-skilled” and so to be handy with the girls would mean skilled at impressing them. “When you’re famous they let you do it.” ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31547 "2019-04-02T13:10:44Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > “If the girls don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.” - Red Green This is one of those time spelling is really important, because if they find you ugly and hand **s** y it’s not a good scene. I am told. By friends. Who are Canadian, so you don’t know them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31548 "2019-04-02T13:33:44Z")
Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31549 "2019-04-02T13:43:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) > > Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. A-ha, perfect bait for a Trump sucker. “I’ll show you, after.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31550 "2019-04-02T13:44:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) > > Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. :smack: This is just so weird… But Paul Krugman has some ideas about it: [ **Republican Health Care Lying Syndrome** _Even Trump supporters don’t believe the party’s promises._](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/opinion/republicans-health-care.html) > [@](#): > > There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Republican claims about health care. > … > > But Republicans cannot admit that the only way to protect pre-existing conditions is to emulate Democratic policies. The party of Eisenhower, or even the party of Nixon, might have been able to do such a thing, but the party of Fox News cannot. > > Nor, however, do Republicans dare admit that they have no interest in providing protection that a vast majority of voters demands. So they just keep lying. > > You may, by the way, have heard talk about G.O.P. members of Congress opposed to Trump’s new health care push. But they share his goals; they’re just questioning his timing. The whole party still wants to take away your health care. It just hopes to get through the next election before you find out. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31551 "2019-04-02T13:50:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) > > Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. Now wait a minute. He already has a secret, yet perfect, health plan that insures everyone and costs very little. It was all done and just waiting for confirmation of Secretary Price. Let’s use that one. > [@](#): > > President-elect Donald Trump said in a weekend interview that he is nearing completion of a plan to replace President Obama’s signature health-care law with the goal of “insurance for everybody,” while also vowing to force drug companies to negotiate directly with the government on prices in Medicare and Medicaid. > > … > > Trump said his plan for replacing most aspects of Obama’s health-care law is all but finished. Although he was coy about its details — “lower numbers, much lower deductibles” — he said he is ready to unveil it alongside Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). > > “It’s very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven’t put it in quite yet but we’re going to be doing it soon,” Trump said. He noted that he is waiting for his nominee for secretary of health and human services, Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), to be confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31552 "2019-04-02T13:52:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) > > Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. > [@bobot](#): > > A-ha, perfect bait for a Trump sucker. “I’ll show you, after.” I hope it doesn’t involve bombing Cambodia. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31553 "2019-04-02T14:01:48Z")
“Be a louse, look down her blouse, and with the girls be handsy.” #metooYankeeDoodle ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31554 "2019-04-02T14:10:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) > > Trump says the GOP has a great health care plan, and will unveil it after the 2020 election. So he wants to wait two years to introduce his healthcare plan but wants the ACA killed now? And that article mentions the involvement of Mitt Romney, who was governor of Massachusetts when it introduced healthcare reform (one that I believe was at least in part the model for the ACA). ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31555 "2019-04-02T14:20:37Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I have a hard time remembering that most people don’t get as annoyed about the use of “it’s” for “its” as I do, for example. Some people are monsters. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31556 "2019-04-02T14:34:19Z")
[Jared Kushner used the Mueller report to deflect an unrelated question, and it could hint at a new Trump strategy to shut down scrutiny](https://www.thisisinsider.com/kushner-using-mueller-to-deflect-question-hints-at-new-trump-strategy-2019-4) > [@](#): > > In an interview broadcast Monday night, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, shrugged off questions over his White House security clearance, granting a glimpse of a political playbook that could loom large in the months to come. > > Speaking with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, Kushner used the central finding of the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report — which the Justice Department has said did not find evidence of illegal collusion with Russia — to avoid answering about something unrelated. > > Here is the exchange, with the relevant segment highlighted: > > Ingraham: The left is going crazy about the security-clearance issue. And a whistleblower from the White House has now given a private interview on Capitol Hill with Democrats, and she says that 25 individuals were able to leapfrog over the career people’s concerns about security clearances, and they received security clearances, in her view, improperly. What’s your reaction for that? > > Kushner: Well, I can’t comment for the White House’s process, but what I can say is that over the last few years that I’ve been here, \*\*I’ve been accused of all different types of things, and all of those things have turned out to be false. > > We’ve had a lot of crazy accusations, like, that we colluded with Russia.\*\* I complied with all the different investigations, whether it be the Senate, the House, the special counsel. I’ve sat for nearly 20 hours of interviews with them. > > … > > The president’s son Donald Trump Jr. on Sunday cited the report to attack the media as a “blight on our republic.” [bold in original] Probably another reason the GOP doesn’t want an unredacted Mueller report available. They point to it now and proclaim “See! Total exoneration! Democrats are hysterical!”. I am kinda surprised Kushner wasn’t indicted for lying during those 20 hours of testimony. I can’t think of anyone in the top of the administration who doesn’t lie. The media is not the blight on our republic. Trump and his administration are. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31557 "2019-04-02T14:37:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So he wants to wait two years to introduce his healthcare plan but wants the ACA killed now? And that article mentions the involvement of Mitt Romney, who was governor of Massachusetts when it introduced healthcare reform (one that I believe was at least in part the model for the ACA). Will the rubes fall for it again? Could anyone possibly be dumb enough to believe this shit? Stay tuned for another season of \* The Really Shitty Reality Show\*. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31558 "2019-04-02T14:37:47Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I have a hard time remembering that most people don’t get as annoyed about the use of “it’s” for “its” as I do, for example. Their, their, now. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31559 "2019-04-02T14:53:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Latest idiocy: [[Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election) ]([Trump Punts, Says GOP Will Unveil Health Care Plan ‘Right After The Election’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-punts-gop-unveil-healthcare-plan-right-after-election)) I assume he’s also going to need to know my social security and bank account numbers before he unveils the secret plan ? And a deposit of 4.000 dollars to an unmarked P.O. box to cover the initial legal fees inolved with releasing the secret plan from escrow ? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31560 "2019-04-02T15:13:13Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > … I have a hard time remembering that most people don’t get as annoyed about the use of “it’s” for “its” as I do, for example. I do, too. And with incorrect subject/verb agreement. And with dangling participles. Those of us with a good foundation in grammar are doomed to suffer. Outsiders not only don’t understand our pain, they dismiss and ridicule it. No sarcasm here. I’m deadly serious. I’m now seeing grammatical errors in the _New York Times_ almost daily. It’s because the \*Times \*did away with copy editors a few years ago (budget constraints), and the people in their 30s and 40s over there NEVER HAD TO DIAGRAM SENTENCES IN SCHOOL. > [@BlankSlate](#): > > Will the rubes fall for it again? Could anyone possibly be dumb enough to believe this shit? … In a word: yes. In two words: hell, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31561 "2019-04-02T15:39:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ll continue to use “thump” as long as I goddam well please… Personally, I like **Little Donnie Fail-Fail**. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31562 "2019-04-02T15:47:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Will the rubes fall for it again? Could anyone possibly be dumb enough to believe this shit? Stay tuned for another season of \* The Really Shitty Reality Show\*. They voted for him in the first place. I’m still having a hard time fathoming that. So yes, they will ‘fall’ for it again. Mostly, they won’t every back down now. To much invested in supporting that moron. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31563 "2019-04-02T15:52:06Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Personally, I like **Little Donnie Fail-Fail**. It’s a big, wide tent. Room for ALL demeaning (yet accurate) nicknames. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31564 "2019-04-02T17:27:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ll continue to use “thump” as long as I goddam well please, so just get off it. Do you think I give a fuck how “it makes me look”? Geez, Louise, go complain about something that matters, okay? Vote him out of office and I’ll quit-- how’s that? Or put me on Ignore if you just can’t stomach it until then. Holy crap. Sure thing, **thumpaLou**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1577) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1579)