# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3141 "2017-04-07T13:38:44Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Hey, I voted for Public Policy Nerd Lady, not the Human-Chinchilla-Troll Hybrid and his Mery Band of Post-Apocalyptic Fundamisfits. At this point, having an actual clown as President accompanied by Barnum and Bailey’s Circus would be an improvement, and would also have had a better showing at the inauguration.

I am totally stealing this description of Trump.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> And now we have to unsee Caviar Enema.

The pro-lifers shouldn’t approve. Them’s potential fish lives!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3142 "2017-04-07T14:16:51Z")

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I smell an infrastructure project in Homs!

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3143 "2017-04-07T14:21:01Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Wow, if [this is a Trump supporter having a major disagreement with him](https://mobile.twitter.com/undefined/status/850244948528054272/photo/1) (the “my take” section in particular), I really wouldn’t be surprised if they’d somehow justify him betraying every single thing they voted him in for.

A little more on this egregiously proud troll:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=809936](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=809936)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3144 "2017-04-07T14:25:09Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> I remember seeing it as a descriptor for one of the two factions competing for Trump’s attention in the White House: Bannon’s “Burn-it-to-the-ground” faction and Jared’s “Caviar-enema” faction.

You are correct.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [It appears the “Burn-It-All-to-The-Ground Savage” branch of the West Wing is coming into conflict with the “Caviar Enema” branch of the West Wing.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/bannon-resign-mercer-trump-236939?cmpid=sf)
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> On the one hand, if Bannon loses this war, our threat of nuclear annihilation goes down considerably, but with Kushner’s ascent, the chance that the 99% will be reduced to sustaining ourselves off of twigs and dog food within the next two years goes up significantly.
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> I suppose I should just stop being such a pussy and enjoy the political theater. But I still weep for my children.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3145 "2017-04-07T14:31:38Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> I smell an infrastructure project in Homs!

Insolvent casinos are infrastructure, no?

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3146 "2017-04-07T14:46:20Z")

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[David Brooks - The Coming Incompetence Crisis](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-coming-incompetence-crisis.html?ref=opinion&_r=0)

Close the thread, we’ll never get a better summary.

> [@](#):
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> I just read that the Trump administration has filled only 22 of the 553 key positions that require Senate confirmation. This makes me worry that the administration will not have enough manpower to produce the same volume and standard of incompetence that we’ve come to expect so far.
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> Granted, in its first few months the administration has produced an impressive amount of ineptitude with very few people…  
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> And in general, the personnel process has been so rigorous in its selection of inexperience that those who were hired on the basis of mere nepotism look like Dean Acheson by comparison.
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> Trump’s greatest achievements are in the field of ignorance. Up until this period I had always thought of ignorance as a void, as an absence of knowledge. But Trump’s ignorance is not just an absence; it is a rich, intricate and entirely separate universe of negative information, a sort of fertile intellectual antimatter with its own gravitational pull.
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> It’s not so much that he isn’t well informed; it’s that he is prodigiously learned in the sort of knowledge that doesn’t accord with the facts of our current dimension.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3147 "2017-04-07T14:54:01Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [David Brooks - The Coming Incompetence Crisis](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-coming-incompetence-crisis.html?ref=opinion&_r=0)
> 
> Close the thread, we’ll never get a better summary.

And this is from the _conservative_ half of Brooks & Dionne (on NPR) or Brooks & Shields (on PBS).

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3148 "2017-04-07T15:52:01Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [David Brooks - The Coming Incompetence Crisis](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-coming-incompetence-crisis.html?ref=opinion&_r=0)
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> Close the thread, we’ll never get a better summary.

I’ll see your NYT article and raise you [This Is How the Next World War Starts](http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/trump-russia-putin-military-crisis/) from the Huffington Post Highline. Or I’ll just point you to today’s news from Syria because it’s done started, boys and girls.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3149 "2017-04-07T16:39:11Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> I’ll see your NYT article and raise you [This Is How the Next World War Starts](http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/trump-russia-putin-military-crisis/) from the Huffington Post Highline. Or I’ll just point you to today’s news from Syria because it’s done started, boys and girls.

> [@David Brooks](#):
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> Those who ignore history are condemned to retweet it.

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That is priceless. I think he’s been saving that for just the right moment.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3150 "2017-04-07T16:40:59Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Excellent point.

I pointed that out on Facebook earlier, and one of my rabid Trump-supporting friends countered with

> [@](#):
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> There’s a difference in helping them and supporting them. Help them in THEIR LAND NOT SUPPORT THEM IN OURS! Liberals just think everything is free and money is like monopoly you should be paid to walk around the block.

After my rational, reasoned response, he said

> [@](#):
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> If they are not safe in their land due to a leader who bombs them with gas attacks and nerve agents then we remove the leader and try him for crimes against humanity. And then they will be safe and their society can be productive there. Oh wait…thats exactly what President trump is doing. Congratulations on a excellent decision mr.President

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3151 "2017-04-07T17:59:38Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> [David Brooks - The Coming Incompetence Crisis](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-coming-incompetence-crisis.html?ref=opinion&_r=0)

_sniff_ That was beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3152 "2017-04-07T18:06:32Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Wow, if [this is a Trump supporter having a major disagreement with him](https://mobile.twitter.com/undefined/status/850244948528054272/photo/1) (the “my take” section in particular), I really wouldn’t be surprised if they’d somehow justify him betraying every single thing they voted him in for.

He told them he lied to them and they still support him. Do you know why? Because he’s not betraying every single thing they voted him in for. The one sacred thing for him is the discriminatory practice against Muslims. Now that the courts won’t let him ban Muslims wholesale, he’s ramped up to killing Muslims. And if you think his ardent supporters have a problem with that, you don’t know bigots.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3153 "2017-04-07T20:20:28Z")

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Wow. And to think that I used to detest David Brooks. His conservative ideals have been shattered by Trump. Kind of sad. On the upside, Brooks’ humor has improved. (Well, it was non-existent before, so I guess that’s an improvement.)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3154 "2017-04-07T20:45:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In addition to not even having a clue how long he’s been president, Trump sounds like he is channeling Baghdad Bob.
> 
> In all seriousness, it’s really starting to look like some kind of dementia is happening here. I expect that the next thing he’ll do is take a massive dump at a press conference, and exclaim that it’s the best turd that anyone has ever produced in history. His supporters would likely agree with him.

It’s been talked about:

[Is Trump Suffering from Dementia?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CFwkoqxIs)

> [@](#):
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> –Donald Trump’s forgetfulness, and uses of filler words and non-specific nouns, correlate with the early signs of Alzheimer’s disease observed in Ronald Regan[sic]

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3155 "2017-04-07T20:54:05Z")

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[The EPA moves to defund programs to keep kids safe from lead paint.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/05/trumps-epa-moves-to-defund-programs-that-protect-children-from-lead/?utm_campaign=4d23d7d4d5-Day_77_Filibustered_4_6_2017&utm_medium=email&utm_source=WTF%20Just%20Happened%20Today%3F&utm_term=.288dfcf9a276)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3156 "2017-04-07T20:56:01Z")

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Also:[Using Discourse Analysis to Assess Cognitive Decline](http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2017/02/using-discourse-analysis-to-assess.html)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3157 "2017-04-07T21:10:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The EPA moves to defund programs to keep kids safe from lead paint.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/05/trumps-epa-moves-to-defund-programs-that-protect-children-from-lead/?utm_campaign=4d23d7d4d5-Day_77_Filibustered_4_6_2017&utm_medium=email&utm_source=WTF%20Just%20Happened%20Today%3F&utm_term=.288dfcf9a276)

Ah, working on keeping the next generation of republican voters.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3158 "2017-04-07T21:10:44Z")

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[U.S. FCC chairman plans fast-track repeal of net neutrality: sources](http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1790AP)

From the link above:

> [@](#):
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> The rules approved by the FCC under Democratic President Barack Obama in early 2015 prohibited broadband providers from giving or selling access to speedy internet, essentially a “fast lane”, to certain internet services over others. As part of that change, the FCC reclassified internet service providers much like utilities.
> 
> Pai wants to overturn that reclassification, but wants internet providers to voluntarily agree to not obstruct or slow consumer access to web content, two officials said late Tuesday.
> 
> The officials briefed on the meeting said Pai suggested companies commit in writing to open internet principles and including them in their terms of service, which would make them binding.

What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3159 "2017-04-07T21:39:09Z")

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And just for anybody who isn’t sure what the whole “net neutrality” issue is about, here is the [Last Week Tonight segment on net neutrality](https://youtu.be/fpbOEoRrHyU) from June 2014, which is basically the most entertaining and useful explanation you’ll find on the topic.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3160 "2017-04-07T21:43:13Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Ah, working on keeping the next generation of republican voters.

Oh snap!

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