# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1586
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31705 "2019-04-06T20:42:41Z")
“Judge Flores” doesn’t say anything about Trump’s mental state, except that he’s pig-ignorant and has no plans to change. He’s not crazy…just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31706 "2019-04-06T20:58:35Z")
“Judge Flores” was the day Donald Trump became President. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31707 "2019-04-06T22:10:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “Judge Flores” doesn’t say anything about Trump’s mental state, except that he’s pig-ignorant and has no plans to change. He’s not crazy…just stupid. Can’t he be both, like the late Earl Warren? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31708 "2019-04-06T23:27:35Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > America is full? > > Mandatory abortions it is, then. If America is full, how come I had no problem finding a parking space today? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31709 "2019-04-07T00:16:27Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > If America is full, how come I had no problem finding a parking space today? Can you take a couple hundred thousand Brooklyn Americans out where you live? ‘Cause I can NEVER find parking. I promise I’ll send you our best people. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31710 "2019-04-07T01:33:59Z")
Ike’s sending Brooklynites, Islanders, and even some from the Bronx. And, some, I’m sure, are very fine people… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31711 "2019-04-07T01:40:31Z")
Hopefully those mainly from the Hamptons, of course. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31712 "2019-04-07T01:47:02Z")
It’d be easier to tell if all New Yorkers didn’t look just alike. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31713 "2019-04-07T02:04:37Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It’d be easier to tell if all New Yorkers didn’t look just alike. ☹ You’re thinking Iowans ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31714 "2019-04-07T02:25:32Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > This is relevant to the discussion of Trump’s returns, and the acquiring of: > > [Why Trump has taken such an interest in the Internal Revenue Service](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-trump-has-taken-such-interest-the-internal-revenue-service#break) The executive branch is drowning civil service and replacing them with Trump shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31715 "2019-04-07T04:15:25Z")
Trump [withdraws his nomination to head ice](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-ditches-his-nominee-to-lead-ice-says-he-wants-someone-tougher-for-top-immigration-enforcement-role/2019/04/05/c184cc6a-57bd-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html?utm_term=.02b1950fe0be), saying that he wants someone tougher. Following his usual method of picking the worst possible person imaginable for any given job, and of picking of celebrity over competence, I’m wondering whether he’s fixing to nominate Arpaio. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31716 "2019-04-07T04:49:57Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Following his usual method of picking the worst possible person imaginable for any given job, and of picking of celebrity over competence, I’m wondering whether he’s fixing to nominate Arpaio. Well, since he does like to consort with criminals, I suppose it saves time to pick one that’s already been convicted. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31717 "2019-04-07T05:09:51Z")
I’ve probably mentioned it before, but I’ll remind everyone that Trump has no choice but to ally himself with the worst of the worst. The deplorables got him elected. He will only get more and more deplorable to feed them what they want. His oligarchs in the GOP will do the same, because they can’t do anything else. Oligarchy doesn’t want a united union movement. It doesn’t want a united fight for $15 movement. It doesn’t want a united green movement, or a united medicare for all movement. History shows that the way to break unity among blue collar workers and the working poor is to break them along ethnic lines. Give poor, unemployed whites a role and a purpose in society: keeping poor non-whites under control. Give them something to be better than. Meanwhile, while the bottom 50% of dinner guests fight over the remaining 10% of the Hors d’oeuvres left at the cocktail party, the oligarchs will, piece by piece, remove the rights and protections that were put in place to protect ordinary folk 100-125 years ago, because now, maybe nobody notices. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31718 "2019-04-07T16:09:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Bring on the Death Panels! Finally, a Hillary policy we can all get behind. :dubious: We could even make it retroactive and have people vote on it _Survivor_-style. "Sorry, Mr. President, but you’ve been voted out of the country. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > The followup to that is even more worrisome, that falsehood was indeed used as a factor to then justify Lebensraum. Just another box checked on the Nazi characteristics list. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31719 "2019-04-07T17:36:28Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Trump [withdraws his nomination to head ice](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-ditches-his-nominee-to-lead-ice-says-he-wants-someone-tougher-for-top-immigration-enforcement-role/2019/04/05/c184cc6a-57bd-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html?utm_term=.02b1950fe0be), saying that he wants someone tougher. > > Following his usual method of picking the worst possible person imaginable for any given job, and of picking of celebrity over competence, I’m wondering whether he’s fixing to nominate Arpaio. I heard that decision was made by Obergruppenführer Miller. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31720 "2019-04-07T20:33:19Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, since he does like to consort with criminals, I suppose it saves time to pick one that’s already been convicted. [Jim Rockford] **Pardoned!** [/JR] ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31721 "2019-04-07T21:02:08Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Trump [withdraws his nomination to head ice](https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-ditches-his-nominee-to-lead-ice-says-he-wants-someone-tougher-for-top-immigration-enforcement-role/2019/04/05/c184cc6a-57bd-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html?utm_term=.02b1950fe0be), saying that he wants someone tougher. Every time I see this sentence, my brain adjusts it to “head lice”, which is a fitting description of this entire administration. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31722 "2019-04-07T21:50:30Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > [Jim Rockford] **Pardoned!** [/JR] Nice reference, but though pardoned, Arpaio’s conviction is still there. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31723 "2019-04-07T21:54:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Trump Goofs Again: Rips Nonexistent ‘Judge Flores’ For Case Of Teen Migrant Jenny Flores](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-goof-judge-flores-border_n_5ca7cd6be4b0dca0330185ab) > > > [@](#): > > > > Donald Trump messed up again Friday in comments at a news conference scolding “Judge Flores” for a ruling on immigrant minors the president called “a disaster.” There was no such judge in the case — it involved a teenage immigrant named Flores. > > > > The error was the latest in a mounting string of mistakes the president has made in the last four weeks that are raising concerns about his mental health. There does appear to be growing concern. The flubs are becoming more frequent. Even though the evening news ignores them for the most part, a lot of people–even FoxNews viewers—heard about the ‘father born in Germany’ and ‘oranges (for ‘origins’)’ problems. A new edition of “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” came out a couple of weeks ago. At some point even Mitch McConnell will find it tough to keep ignoring this stuff. > [@](#): > > The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President - Updated and Expanded with New Essays Hardcover – March 19, 2019 > by Bandy X. Lee (Author), Jeffrey Sachs (Foreword), & 39 more > > …\*Constrained by the APA’s “Goldwater rule,” which inhibits mental health professionals from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined, many of those qualified to weigh in on the issue have shied away from discussing it at all. The public has thus been left to wonder whether he is mad, bad, or both. > > The prestigious mental health experts who have contributed to the revised and updated version of The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump argue that their moral and civic “duty to warn” supersedes professional neutrality.\* … (from the Amazon page) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31724 "2019-04-07T22:30:55Z")
Looks like Nielsen bites the dust: > **[Trump says DHS Secretary Nielsen leaving | CNN Politics](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/07/politics/kirstjen-nielsen-homeland-security/index.html)** > > Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of Homeland Security who has become a face of President Donald Trump's hardline immigration push, is leaving the administration, President Donald Trump announced on Twitter Sunday afternoon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1585) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1587)