# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/301 "2016-12-27T18:47:41Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You aren’t thinking clearly. Or you are not expressing yourself well. > > I think that Republicans realized a long time ago that they couldn’t win elections without the racists. Other Republicans turned a blind eye to the racism in Republican campaigns because that was the only way they could get close enough to win from time to time. This is nothing new. Unless you want to blame every fucking Republican win since Nixon on racism, you are barking up the wrong tree. You are arguing that Trump was able to mobilize the racists more than Barack (product of miscegeny) Hussein Obama could. I find that proposition doubtful. And even if he could, you are then saying that Hillary was not able to overcome that higher participation rate from racists despite the obvious negative impact that blatant racism has had on every race since the civil rights movement. > > Of course minorities can be bigots. being a minority doesn’t make you immune to bigotry. Just more sensitive to its presence. I’ll let someone else deal with the salad here. You seem to be shadowboxing with yourself and connecting though. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/302 "2016-12-27T21:43:59Z")
What the fuck is Trump up to? First, he asks for the names of all government employees working on climate change. Then he asks for the names of those working on gender equality, and now he wants the names of those working on terrorism. > **[Exclusive: Trump team seeks names of officials working to counter violent...](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N)** > > U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has asked two Cabinet departments for the names of government officials working on programs to counter violent extremism, according to a document seen by Reuters and U.S. officials. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/303 "2016-12-27T21:46:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What the fuck is Trump up to? First, he asks for the names of all government employees working on climate change. Then he asks for the names of those working on gender equality, and now he wants the names of those working on terrorism. > [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N) He wants to make sure everyone gets a trophy. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/304 "2016-12-27T22:15:57Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He wants to make sure everyone gets a trophy. More likely, he can’t wait to say “You’re fired!” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/305 "2016-12-27T22:53:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What the fuck is Trump up to? First, he asks for the names of all government employees working on climate change. Then he asks for the names of those working on gender equality, and now he wants the names of those working on terrorism. > [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N) AFAIK trump has been more successful with the latest requests, but with Climate Change the government group refused to comply until Trump gave them a good reason, the only hopeful bit was that the Trump group decided then to tell news groups that the one making the request was [del]tossed under the bus[/del] “admonished”. > **[Trump team now says request for Energy Dept. staffers’ names “not authorized”](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/trump-transition-team-walks-back-request-for-doe-staffers-names/)** > > Staffers worried new administration would improperly punish civil servants. Put a check mark in favor of the eternal vigilance guys. It is going to be a long 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/306 "2016-12-28T01:48:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What the fuck is Trump up to? First, he asks for the names of all government employees working on climate change. Then he asks for the names of those working on gender equality, and now he wants the names of those working on terrorism. > [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islam-exclusive-idUSKBN14D00N) Targeting them for firing, persecution and replacement with his cronies, no doubt. He’ll replace anyone working for or supporting work on climate change or gender equality, and probably have them designated “security risks” so he can have them harassed long term for daring to disagree with him. Or even “disappeared” and tortured as terrorism suspects. And he’ll want to replace anyone working on terrorism so they’ll go along with the Trump/Republican program of “Muslims are all terrorists, the American right wing are never terrorists”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/307 "2016-12-28T04:18:13Z")
Have the other big oil guys contacted Exxon to start negotiating their surrender? I mean. open merger talks? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/308 "2016-12-28T04:57:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Have the other big oil guys contacted Exxon to start negotiating their surrender? I mean. open merger talks? Would all you hysterical peeps be as hysterical if his cabinet was filled with union leaders? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/309 "2016-12-28T05:02:37Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Would all you hysterical peeps be as hysterical if his cabinet was filled with union leaders? I think the labor sec should be a labor leader, not a magnate who has been trying to automate his workers out of their jobs. I guess I’m just a pinko. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/310 "2016-12-28T19:05:54Z")
Get ready to be wowed: > [@](#): > > President-elect Donald Trump plans to make an announcement related to the economy on Wednesday afternoon, his transition team said, adding it would be a boost to workers but giving no other details. > > Trump plans to make the statement between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. Central time, incoming White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters on a conference call, adding that the news “should be very positive for American workers.” > **[Sprint, OneWeb say 8,000 jobs announced by Trump are part of SoftBank pledge](https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/trump-to-unveil-positive-economic-move-for-u-s-workers/article_86bb7964-3c75-5e23-aabf-fe4e7bc20136.html)** > > SoftBank, which is controlled by billionaire businessman Masayoshi Son, holds stakes in both companies. I will try to keep an open mind. If he makes an announcement that has at least some details and affects more than a handful of people and doesn’t smack of crony capitalism, I will drop in here to applaud him. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/311 "2016-12-28T19:36:14Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > I will try to keep an open mind. If he makes an announcement that has at least some details and affects more than a handful of people and doesn’t smack of crony capitalism, I will drop in here to applaud him. So Trump is to be applauded for doing the minimum that he is supposed to do? As Chris Rock once said [to paraphrase]: Man: “I take care of my kids!” Rock: “You’re supposed to! Why are you bragging?” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/312 "2016-12-28T20:14:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > So Trump is to be applauded for doing the minimum that he is supposed to do? I’ll take any positive sign I can get. I’m trying to get through the next four years without drinking myself to death, here, man! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/313 "2016-12-28T21:12:08Z")
Well, it’s after 4 PM, any signs of an announcement? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/314 "2016-12-28T21:16:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Well, it’s after 4 PM, any signs of an announcement? I believe the announcement was supposed to be between 3 and4 central. It’s after 4 eastern now. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/315 "2016-12-28T22:00:49Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I believe the announcement was supposed to be between 3 and4 central. It’s after 4 eastern now. Right. It’s almost 4 Central as I type now. I haven’t seen anything about the announcement. He’s probably working hard to whittle it down to 140 characters. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/316 "2016-12-28T22:24:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Right. It’s almost 4 Central as I type now. I haven’t seen anything about the announcement. He’s probably working hard to whittle it down to 140 characters. I’m guessing the announcement will be something like, “I’m going to make America great again.” Or words to that effect. He lurves that suspense, keep 'em waiting and wondering shtick, doesn’t he? Like the true carnival barker that he is. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/317 "2016-12-29T03:04:35Z")
So apparently, the announcement was that Sprint was going to bring back 5000 jobs from overseas. [Sprint disagrees.](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/29/trump-says-just-created-5000-sprint-jobs-truth-far-sinister/) And yes, the link is to a partisan site, but the reason why I’m using it is because there are so many links in this site to a variety of Trump lies on the same subject. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/318 "2016-12-29T03:22:18Z")
NPR has an article about it here: [Donald Trump Takes Credit For 8,000 New Jobs From Japanese Investor : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/12/28/507305600/trump-speaks-briefly-to-reporters-reversing-obama-criticism-and-touting-new-jobs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2056) > [@](#): > > In a statement on its website, Sprint said it “anticipates these jobs will support a variety of functions across the organization, including its customer care and sales teams.” But the jobs aren’t finalized yet — the company said it will “begin discussions immediately with its business partners” and aims to fill the positions by the end of the 2017 fiscal year. So, I’m skeptical but reserving judgement. On the one hand, the new investment and jobs is of course good news. On the other, it’s unclear how much Trump really pulled the levers on this one and how much he’s taking credit for things already in progress for months. Also, it’s worrisome when a President makes personal deals with businesses and doesn’t disclose the terms. No transparency, no accountability, just shady cronyism. That’s not the way we ought to be doing things. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/319 "2016-12-29T04:38:20Z")
Five thousand jobs! Wow! Now we can fill in the Grand Canyon and build a real spiffy hotel there! ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/320 "2016-12-29T05:55:04Z")
Sprint announced that it would be hiring 5000 people [back in April. Of 2015](http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/technology/article18230624.html). That man has nothing to do with it, he’s just stealing the credit for it, as he has done with other things. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=17)