# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1600
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31985 "2019-04-13T23:59:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > … > > So…say it with me…if there’s no problem with letting these people in----in large numbers, yet----_then there is no conceivable reason to build a wall across the southern border_. Sure, but that makes sense, and we can’t have that. If you make sense then you’re a cuck libtard snowflake. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31986 "2019-04-14T00:25:08Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > So what ? The overbearing fuck already told me to love my brother as myself, and \*that \*shit sure isn’t going to fly. Thanks for the laugh. Very good. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31987 "2019-04-14T00:34:40Z")
I’m picturing **Kobal** at the pearly gates. St. Peter opens the big book and says “Oh, huh, there’s a post-it note next to your name. From the big guy. It says ‘Let the overbearing fuck in’… and then there’s a doodle of… a dickbutt?” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31988 "2019-04-14T02:20:57Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So…say it with me…if there’s no problem with letting these people in----in large numbers, yet----_then there is no conceivable reason to build a wall across the southern border_. Wait for it… . . Wait… . . . Wait… We must build walls around the enemy sanctuary cities, as they are all full of enemies. They are bad. Like the press. Enemies of the people. Walls all around the cities. Wall. Wall. Wall. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31989 "2019-04-14T12:04:14Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Um-hm. But what Trump’s fans must be working hard to ignore, is that this latest development shows—no, _proves_—that NO WALL IS NEEDED. > > Remember, Trump’s rationale for building The Wall was that those awful brown people were so violent and disease-ridden and destructive that _ **not one of them could be allowed to get inside the USA** _----hence the need for a wall. ‘They must be stopped right at the border! We’re not safe if even one of them gets over that southern border! WallWallWallWallWall!!!1!!! It’s the only thing that can keep them OUT, and they must be kept OUT!!!’ > > Now he’s proposing to bus these exact same people _right into the heart of America_. Right into every (blue) state. Where they will be free to go all over the USA, as they please. > > It’s TRUMP proposing to move these people into the country. Move them right in. > > So…say it with me…if there’s no problem with letting these people in----in large numbers, yet----_then there is no conceivable reason to build a wall across the southern border_. Yes, Trump’s inconsistency would be surprising in anyone we thought to have a 3-digit IQ. That the man is POTUS boggles the mind. Trump can best be compared to a frat-boy who spends his time setting his farts on fire. It is America that is most worthy of contempt: Tens of millions of us celebrate those farts and voted for this pathetic monster. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31990 "2019-04-14T12:52:53Z")
So since the civil war has a president ever publicly sought to enact a policy specifically designed to damage regions of the US that don’t agree with him? During the civil rights era there have been actions taken to enforce federal law, and some quid pro quo with funding, (if you want highway funds you’ll lower your speed limit). But this is the first time I can recall where a president actively sought to cause harm. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31991 "2019-04-14T14:13:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Well… um… OK… I just hope God doesn’t “tell” us the same way he told the dinosaurs they were no longer in charge… He was fired. The Acting God Almighty has an entirely different point of view. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31992 "2019-04-14T14:21:53Z")
It is increasingly apparent that certain people in the WH want to create the “invasion” narrative. They want something that justifies a massacre of migrants, which I think is only a matter of time considering the tone, the rhetoric, and the policies that have been proposed. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31993 "2019-04-14T15:50:11Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But this is the first time I can recall where a president actively sought to cause harm. I dunno: the last shutdown, the separation of families at the border, the appointment of judges for (among other things) the eventual repeal of _Roe vs. Wade_…maybe a couple of other thingies…that might not exactly qualify as harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31994 "2019-04-14T16:52:06Z")
I think that by “this time” **Buck** may have been referring to all the shit from the last two years, rather than merely from the last two days. Everything you mention is from Mr There Is Very Fine People On Both Sides. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31995 "2019-04-14T17:40:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It is increasingly apparent that certain people in the WH want to create the “invasion” narrative. They want something that justifies a massacre of migrants, which I think is only a matter of time considering the tone, the rhetoric, and the policies that have been proposed. I’ve said for a while it won’t surprise me if they build two fences topped with barbed wire 100 yards apart along the border rather than a wall. Then they can bury land mines in the area between and station machine gun nests every so often. FOX would be able to broadcast the carnage any time “illegals” try to get through. Stephen Miller would cream his pants and the GOP could just say they are protecting our sovereignty from invasion. The MAGAnuts would love it and Trump would be declared President for life. A disturbing number of Dopers would probably endorse and defend such a policy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31996 "2019-04-14T17:52:21Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I’m picturing **Kobal** at the pearly gates. St. Peter opens the big book and says “Oh, huh, there’s a post-it note next to your name. From the big guy. It says ‘Let the overbearing fuck in’… and then there’s a doodle of… a dickbutt?” I have a hard time imagining god’s meme game to be on point. It’s probably the whole god=dad cultural imprint, but I think he’d be the kind of guy that’d think an “All Ur Base” reference is still cool and rad. That being said, I also expect the following to happen : - Hey, what the !? Where am I ? What hap… Oh. I’m dead, aren’t I ? - I GREET THEE, DEADAREN’TI. I AM THE LORD THY GOD. _a booming chuckle shakes the clouds, lasting for quite some time_ _St Peter just shakes his head, we exchange significant glances, he sighs and shrugs with a “watayagonnado” look_ ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31997 "2019-04-14T18:00:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So since the civil war has a president ever publicly sought to enact a policy specifically designed to damage regions of the US that don’t agree with him? During the civil rights era there have been actions taken to enforce federal law, and some quid pro quo with funding, (if you want highway funds you’ll lower your speed limit). But this is the first time I can recall where a president actively sought to cause harm. That’s kind of a big deal, isn’t it ? Partisanship’s one thing, but no matter how bitter his opposition, Obama (or GWB for that matter) never ceased at least pretending they were the President of _all_ of America and were trying to do what was best for everyone, even if some had to be dragged kicking and screaming. Trump (or Kavanaugh for that matter, which is probably even more worrysome since he’s going to last a while) are openly working for Republicans and also to screw the Democrats as much as possible -and I’m not just talking about the usual politics and vote-courting stuff. That’s not healthy politics at all. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31998 "2019-04-14T19:07:25Z")
Sarah Sanders: Congress isn’t smart enough to understand Individual 1’s taxes. > **[Sarah Sanders just tried to argue that Trump is smarter than Congress in...](https://washingtonpress.com/2019/04/14/sarah-sanders-just-insulted-all-of-congress-in-a-pathetic-attempt-to-hide-trumps-tax-returns-2)** > > The president's spokeswoman turned the bootlicking up to 11 this morning. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/31999 "2019-04-14T21:52:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah Sanders: Congress isn’t smart enough to understand Individual 1’s taxes. > [Sarah Sanders just tried to argue that Trump is smarter than Congress in surreal FOX News clip](https://washingtonpress.com/2019/04/14/sarah-sanders-just-insulted-all-of-congress-in-a-pathetic-attempt-to-hide-trumps-tax-returns-2) I guess that means Individual 1 isn’t smart enough to understand them either, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@Troy\_McClure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32000 "2019-04-14T22:29:51Z")
I would guess that the only people smart enough to understand them are forensic accountants with experience investigating the mob or shell corporations. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32001 "2019-04-15T00:44:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah Sanders: Congress isn’t smart enough to understand Individual 1’s taxes. > [Sarah Sanders just tried to argue that Trump is smarter than Congress in surreal FOX News clip](https://washingtonpress.com/2019/04/14/sarah-sanders-just-insulted-all-of-congress-in-a-pathetic-attempt-to-hide-trumps-tax-returns-2) I bet they’re smart enough to know that the twerp-in-chief ordering the IRS to not turn them over (assuming he’s actually filed the blame things) is a mighty fine way to get the impeachment process started. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32002 "2019-04-15T00:52:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I bet they’re smart enough to know that the twerp-in-chief ordering the IRS to not turn them over (assuming he’s actually filed the blame things) is a mighty fine way to get the impeachment process started. Dream on. Never happen. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32003 "2019-04-15T01:39:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I guess that means Individual 1 isn’t smart enough to understand them either, amirite? Pshhh. Individual 1 can’t understand MY taxes, and I don’t itemize. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32004 "2019-04-15T05:24:14Z")
I think Trump has gone insane, right? He said he has no idea what wikileaks is. But their are tons of clips of him proclaiming how much he loves wikileaks. He was always a liar but this is too much. Non compos mentis ; he needs to be removed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1599) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1601)