# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1603
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32045 "2019-04-21T18:24:44Z")
Behold the master race. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32046 "2019-04-21T19:22:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The magats will support him because their chief will tweet about unfair the law is just like they did when that SEAL or Green Beret straight up murdered someone and the twerp tweeted about what a hero he is for that. Wait. I missed this one. I’m not sure I want to know, but… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32047 "2019-04-21T19:40:03Z")
Well, the Presidents attorney Rudy Giuliani proved once again that there is no situation that he can’t mess up further. On news programs today he said: > [@](#): > > “There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians,” Giuliani said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” Of course, then when asked by the host (CNN) if he would take information from the Russians, he said: > [@](#): > > “I probably wouldn’t.” And this man has the ear of the President. Whatever good he did in the past, it is time to borrow from Oliver Cromwell and say “You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately … Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32048 "2019-04-21T20:39:49Z")
Forgot the link: [Rudy Giuliani: 'There's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians' | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/21/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-russia-cnntv/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32049 "2019-04-21T20:43:26Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Wait. I missed this one. I’m not sure I want to know, but… Probably referring to this: [Trump intervenes in case of Navy SEAL charged with murder](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/30/trump-intervene-navy-seal-1244374) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump announced Saturday that a Navy SEAL who is accused of fatally stabbing an Islamic State detainee during a 2017 deployment to Iraq will be “moved to less restrictive confinement” ahead of his trial in May. > > “In honor of his past service to our Country, Navy Seal #EddieGallagher will soon be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits his day in court,” the president tweeted. “Process should move quickly!” > > … > > Gallagher has pleaded not guilty to a series of charges stemming from his 2017 deployment with the California-based SEAL Team 7. Apart from the accusation that he murdered a teenage ISIS fighter under his care, military prosecutors contend that he held his re-enlistment ceremony with the detainee’s corpse. Gallagher is also accused of shooting two civilians in Iraq and firing inadvertently into crowds. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32050 "2019-04-21T20:47:12Z")
“Firing _inadvertently_ into crowds?” :eek: Now I _have_ to read that link, just in the hope that the story explains how _that’s_ possible. Especially by a CPO. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32051 "2019-04-21T21:16:22Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Probably referring to this: > > [Trump intervenes in case of Navy SEAL charged with murder](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/30/trump-intervene-navy-seal-1244374) “In honor of his past service”??? That’s so weird, because this guy, who defended our country in Afghanistan, was deported to Mexico instead of having a murder handwaved away. Fucking weird, right? In honor of his past service, my ass. Fuck you Cadet Bone Spurs. [https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-green-card-veteran-miguel-perez-mexico-20180326-story.html](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-green-card-veteran-miguel-perez-mexico-20180326-story.html) “Ending a 16-month quest to stay in a country where he was raised and that he fought to defend, Miguel Perez Jr., a veteran with a green card and a felony drug conviction, has been deported to Mexico, where he has not lived since childhood.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32052 "2019-04-21T21:38:49Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Behold the master race. [Obligatory Preacher reference.](https://gobbledygeekbtr.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/preacher48.png) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32053 "2019-04-22T16:34:39Z")
Only the best people: [Trump Fed pick Stephen Moore called it a ‘travesty’ that women ‘feel free’ to play sports with men](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/stephen-moore-federal-reserve-kfile/index.html) > [@](#): > > One of President Donald Trump’s picks to serve on the Federal Reserve Board has written that women should be banned from refereeing, announcing or beer vending at men’s college basketball games, asking if there was any area in life “where men can take vacation from women.” > > Stephen Moore, an economic commentator and former Trump campaign adviser, made those and similar comments in several columns reviewed by CNN’s KFile that were published on the website of the conservative National Review magazine in 2001, twice in 2002 and 2003. > > In a 2000 column, Moore complained about his wife voting for Democrats, writing, “Women are sooo malleable! No wonder there’s a gender gap.” In another column in 2000, Moore criticized female athletes advocating for pay equality, writing that wanted “equal pay for inferior work.” But Moore is a Trump brown-noser, so I guess that makes him an ideal candidate in Trump’s mind. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32054 "2019-04-22T16:38:04Z")
Donnie really really doesn’t want congress to know what’s in his finances. “WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump sued on Monday to block a subpoena issued by the Democratic chairman of the U.S. House Oversight Committee that sought information about his personal and business finances. … In a statement on Monday, (Elijah Cummings, the House Oversight Committee chairman) said there was no valid legal basis to try to block the subpoena and accused the White House of “unprecedented stonewalling” in refusing to produce a single document or witness to the committee. “This complaint reads more like political talking points than a reasoned legal brief, and it contains a litany of inaccurate information,” Cummings said.” > **[Trump sues to block Congress subpoena for his financial records](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-congress-for-financial-records-idUSKCN1RY0YD)** > > President Donald Trump on Monday filed suit to keep U.S. lawmakers from obtaining his financial records, the first salvo in what promises to be an escalating legal battle with Democrats in Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32055 "2019-04-22T16:42:55Z")
> [@](#): > > One of President Donald Trump’s picks to serve on the Federal Reserve Board has written that women should be banned from refereeing, announcing or beer vending at men’s college basketball games, asking if there was any area in life “where men can take vacation from women.” Sure; try your local gay bathhouse. (Not that those guys should have to put up with your sorry bigoted ass either.) Otherwise, if you and/or any like-minded men want to have a “vacation from women” in your personal private associations, you are welcome to do so. Poker game, hunting trip, LAN party in the mancave, boys-only manicure night, whatever, knock yourselves out. But when it comes to a place of public accommodation such as a basketball game, then no, asshole, you don’t get to write **NO GRILS ALOWED** on the door. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32056 "2019-04-22T16:56:36Z")
[He-Man Woman-haters Club](https://carvercountycurrent.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/heman.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32057 "2019-04-22T19:41:48Z")
April Ryan said that Trump aides (and she mentioned Sarah the Huckster by name) should be fired, and “heads should be lopped off”. Sarah the Huckster and her alleged Christian father are now running around appalled, saying that she is calling for Sarah the Huckster to be decapitated. > **[Sarah Sanders says CNN's April Ryan has called for her to 'be decapitated'](https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-sanders-accuses-april-ryan-of-calling-for-her-decapitation-144150114.html)** > > White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Monday accused CNN analyst April Ryan of using violent imagery in calling for her firing. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32058 "2019-04-22T20:05:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > … and her alleged Christian father … Christians have been demonstrating for millennia, no matter how much they claim otherwise, that “Christian” is not a laudatory appellation. It is, neither, in and of itself, deprecatory, but, in general, calling a person a Christian is approximately equivalent to calling them a clerk or Swiss or a Cardinals fan. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32059 "2019-04-22T20:13:04Z")
I can’t decide whether [Carter Page](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPzf_gv1ag) is strange, weird, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32060 "2019-04-22T20:43:38Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > I can’t decide whether [Carter Page](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPzf_gv1ag) is strange, weird, or both. I’d go with both and add “kooky,” but I also think the shiny head isn’t doing him any favors. He looks a bit like a doomsday cult leader. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32061 "2019-04-22T20:58:44Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > April Ryan said that Trump aides (and she mentioned Sarah the Huckster by name) should be fired, and “heads should be lopped off”. Sarah the Huckster and her alleged Christian father are now running around appalled, saying that she is calling for Sarah the Huckster to be decapitated. > [Sarah Sanders says CNN's April Ryan has called for her to 'be decapitated'](https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-sanders-accuses-april-ryan-of-calling-for-her-decapitation-144150114.html) I don’t think we should just rule it out. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32062 "2019-04-22T21:09:25Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Donnie really really doesn’t want congress to know what’s in his finances. > “WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump sued on Monday to block a subpoena issued by the Democratic chairman of the U.S. House Oversight Committee that sought information about his personal and business finances. > … > In a statement on Monday, (Elijah Cummings, the House Oversight Committee chairman) said there was no valid legal basis to try to block the subpoena and accused the White House of “unprecedented stonewalling” in refusing to produce a single document or witness to the committee. > “This complaint reads more like political talking points than a reasoned legal brief, and it contains a litany of inaccurate information,” Cummings said.” > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-congress-for-financial-records-idUSKCN1RY0YD](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-congress-for-financial-records-idUSKCN1RY0YD) This is going to drive Trump insane. His fear all along has been that people with expertise would scrutinize his finances. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32063 "2019-04-22T21:10:28Z")
Fredo Sr.'s insecurity is showing again: [Trump claims ‘nobody disobeys my orders,’ defying Mueller’s account](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/donald-trump-staff-mueller-report/index.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump contended Monday that none of his underlings routinely defy his commands, despite numerous examples contained in Robert Mueller’s report showing aides ignoring or refusing his dictates. > > “Nobody disobeys my orders,” Trump said during a walkabout on the South Lawn for the annual Easter egg roll. > > … > > The document contained anecdote after anecdote of aides refusing to carry out some of Trump’s demands to short-circuit the special counsel’s investigation. The trend was so marked the report’s authors made note of it in their assessment. > > “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests,” the report read. > > The report paints a picture of aides repeatedly ignoring or brushing aside Trump’s dictates – both in the interest of guarding the President from his own worst instincts and of protecting themselves from further legal implications. Fredo Sr.: “I’m smart. I’m in charge. I can run things.” Wasn’t the cinematic Fredo a fuck-up in the casino business, too? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32064 "2019-04-22T21:23:40Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “This complaint reads more like political talking points than a reasoned legal brief, and it contains a litany of inaccurate information,” Cummings said." > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-congress-for-financial-records-idUSKCN1RY0YD](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-congress-for-financial-records-idUSKCN1RY0YD) Not surprising, considering the caliber of people Trump hires. I think the law school Cohen graduated from has been consistently ranked last in the US. Trump was surprised that McGahn took notes during meetings: [McGahn Was Right, Real Lawyers Take Notes (1)](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/mcgahn-was-right-real-lawyers-take-notes) > [@](#): > > During his conversations with Trump, White House lawyer Don McGahn, reportedly took notes. At one point, Trump asked him, “What about these notes? Why do you take notes? Lawyers don’t take notes. I never had a lawyer who took notes.” > > McGahn, who is now back at his old law firm Jones Day as a partner, responded that he took notes because he is a “real lawyer.” The president pushed back, saying that “I’ve had a lot of great lawyers, like Roy Cohn. He did not take notes.” Roy Cohn didn’t want a paper trail. Jesse Pinkman: “You don’t want a criminal lawyer… you want a _criminal_ lawyer,” Stringer Bell: “N_gg_r, is you taking notes on a criminal f\*cking conspiracy?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1602) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1604)