# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1614
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32265 "2019-05-03T20:45:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In “shit you can’t make up news”, John Kelly joined the board of directors of Caliburn International, which operates the shelters for unaccompanied children. > > [John Kelly joins board of Caliburn International, company operating largest unaccompanied migrant children shelter - [Exclusive] - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kelly-joins-board-of-caliburn-international-company-operating-largest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/) He knows a good business opportunity when he sees one. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32266 "2019-05-03T21:57:36Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In “shit you can’t make up news”, John Kelly joined the board of directors of Caliburn International, which operates the shelters for unaccompanied children. > > [John Kelly joins board of Caliburn International, company operating largest unaccompanied migrant children shelter - [Exclusive] - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kelly-joins-board-of-caliburn-international-company-operating-largest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/) Meh, he’s just inspired by Purdue’s business model. Did you know they are now the leading purveyors of opioid severance medication these days ? It’s funny, 'cause it’s true. It also makes you want to eat a shotgun, because it’s all legal and nobody ever had to face legal repercussions for causing the opioid epidemic in the first place even though everybody knows exactly who to blame and why, but there you go. Isn’t it hilarious ? Well, if it isn’t, at least it’s profitable. Which is the next best thing. What I mean to say is, nothing means a thing any more. So in the immortal words of Gang, Bloodhound (The) : lift your head up high and blow your brains out ! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32267 "2019-05-03T23:02:11Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In “shit you can’t make up news”, John Kelly joined the board of directors of Caliburn International, which operates the shelters for unaccompanied children. > > [John Kelly joins board of Caliburn International, company operating largest unaccompanied migrant children shelter - [Exclusive] - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kelly-joins-board-of-caliburn-international-company-operating-largest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/) > [@asahi](#): > > He knows a good business opportunity when he sees one. It seems possible that this is, in some sense, a payoff to keep Kelly’s mouth shut about things he’s seen in the White House. This particular company will be raking in the massive profits due to Trump Administration policies, and they know they need to keep Trump happy. So if some intermediary suggests that His Magnificence will be pleased if they pay a hefty emolument to Kelly, they know better than to demur. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32268 "2019-05-03T23:11:19Z")
Trump displays his keen understanding of the First Amendment: > [@](#): > > I am continuing to monitor the censorship of AMERICAN CITIZENS on social media platforms. This is the United States of America — and we have what’s known as FREEDOM OF SPEECH! We are monitoring and watching, closely!! > ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32269 "2019-05-04T00:29:14Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Trump displays his keen understanding of the First Amendment: > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1124447302544965634?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1124447302544965634?s=19) Awesome comment there quoting Tan the Conman threatening to pull a network’s broadcasting license for reporting he did not like. Seriously, that SOB cannot die soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32270 "2019-05-04T02:15:10Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Awesome comment there quoting Tan the Conman threatening to pull a network’s broadcasting license for reporting he did not like. > > Seriously, that SOB cannot die soon enough. Like Pence is any better. Duller, maybe. A poster boy for impotence treatment, but not better. Trump is the symptom, not the disease. In fact, Pence might be worse. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32271 "2019-05-04T03:21:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Meh, he’s just inspired by Purdue’s business model. Did you know they are now the leading purveyors of opioid severance medication these days ? It’s funny, 'cause it’s true. It also makes you want to eat a shotgun, because it’s all legal and nobody ever had to face legal repercussions for causing the opioid epidemic in the first place even though everybody knows exactly who to blame and why, but there you go. [huh](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/verdict-reached-u-opioid-bribe-180738005.html) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32272 "2019-05-04T07:47:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Like Pence is any better. Duller, maybe. A poster boy for impotence treatment, but not better. Trump is the symptom, not the disease. In fact, Pence might be worse. Granted Pence is scum, but he is nowhere as craven and flat-out proudly ignorant as Tan. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32273 "2019-05-04T07:51:11Z")
He thinks god is real and science isn’t; he doesn’t have the critical thinking skills for the job. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32274 "2019-05-05T00:22:51Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Like Pence is any better. Duller, maybe. A poster boy for impotence treatment, but not better. Trump is the symptom, not the disease. In fact, Pence might be worse. > [@Monty](#): > > Granted Pence is scum, but he is nowhere as craven and flat-out proudly ignorant as Tan. Pence has no base. He has some Evangelicals who are willing to support him, but he has nowhere even\* remotely\* near the number of fanatics—who will pledge to unseat any Congress member who opposes Trump—to his credit. (Or ‘discredit’ as the case may be.) Pence is not worse than Trump, because Pence, compared with Trump, will be relatively powerless to inflict his psychological problems on the USA. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32275 "2019-05-05T01:00:35Z")
They don’t even like Pence in Indiana, which is where he enacted his religious bigotry law. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32276 "2019-05-05T01:15:11Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Pence has no base whereas ShitGibbon has _only_ base. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32277 "2019-05-05T04:38:22Z")
Hey, Trump. Remember the dictator you’re in love with? [Well, here is how he’s proving it to you: missiles in lieu of Cupid’s arrows](https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fires-short-range-missile-yonhap-news-005324551.html). And your response shows you are completely delusional. You are getting played, fool, and you’re making the world more dangerous by the minute. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32278 "2019-05-05T09:35:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Hey, Trump. Remember the dictator you’re in love with? [Well, here is how he’s proving it to you: missiles in lieu of Cupid’s arrows](https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fires-short-range-missile-yonhap-news-005324551.html). And your response shows you are completely delusional. You are getting played, fool, and you’re making the world more dangerous by the minute. “Wow - the liars and haters are working overtime with FAKE NEWS about the genius Kim Jong-Un, who has said many Great things about me, firing Missiles, when the only crimes committed are by crooked H! Remember the 18 Angry Democrats!” ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32279 "2019-05-05T09:55:15Z")
I wish the fabled 18 Angry Democrats would kick tRump into outer space! If they are so powerful and control all the media except for Faux and can start totally fictitious FBI investigations against tRump on a whim, how come they haven’t ousted him yet?! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32280 "2019-05-05T17:20:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Hey, Trump. Remember the dictator you’re in love with? [Well, here is how he’s proving it to you: missiles in lieu of Cupid’s arrows](https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fires-short-range-missile-yonhap-news-005324551.html). I guess the $2,000,000 ransom check bounced. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32281 "2019-05-05T17:32:15Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I wish the fabled 18 Angry Democrats would kick tRump… I’m putting together my resume for the first time in twenty years (not fired, just retired:-) I’m thinking of making an “Other” category and fill it full of achievements like • Held the position of **Angry Democrat #13** , 2018-present ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32282 "2019-05-06T15:26:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Remember the 18 Angry Democrats!” Unlimited free speech for alt-right hatemongers, to the point that private companies should be obliged to host them, but no free speech for FBI agents as private citizens. :rolleyes: (at the Dotard, not **Smapti** ). I thought the Republicans believed political contributions are absolutely protected by the First Amendment. Apparently not so if those donations are made to a Democrat by a citizen who works for the government. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32283 "2019-05-06T16:14:20Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > I thought the Republicans believed political contributions are absolutely protected by the First Amendment. Apparently not so if those donations are made to a Democrat by a citizen who works for the government. :smack: Well no, of course not. Look, it’s simple : all money is speech ; but money to Democrats is hate speech, and that’s verboten. Unless it’s white supremacist hate speech, which is just speech ; the same way a brown guy suspected of trying to shoot a politician is a terrorist that oughta be held in Gitmo forever even absent trifles like trial, evidence and so on but a white guy proven to have been planning to shoot Democrats [goes free](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/hasson-detention-judge/index.html). Because his hit list is just something the Commander-in-Chief could have written after an evening watching Fox News and the President himself uses the same hateful language. So they’re both innocent of any and everything, you see ? It’s really to do with fine legal technicalities not immediately obvious to anybody paying fucking attention, but I hope that helps nevertheless understand the specifics here. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32284 "2019-05-06T22:17:00Z")
[Mnuchin refuses to turn over Trump taxes to House Democrats](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/politics/tax-returns-trump-congress-showdown/index.html) > [@](#): > > Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Monday denied a request from House Democrats for access to six years of President Donald Trump’s personal tax returns. > > “I am informing you now that the Department may not lawfully fulfill the Committee’s request,” Mnuchin wrote in his one-page letter, written in consultation with lawyers from the Department of Justice. Now, just imagine the Republican reaction if the Obama or Clinton admin did this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1613) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1615)