# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 162
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3221 "2017-04-11T14:38:11Z")
Not looking forward to this next week: > **[CBS News - Breaking news, 24/7 live streaming news & top stories](https://www.cbsnews.com/)** > > Watch CBS News live and get the latest, breaking news headlines of the day for national news and world news today. whew! NG got nominated _just in time_ for this. Something tells me this won’t end well. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3222 "2017-04-11T15:56:42Z")
Mark Rivers: “all this praise for Trump’s missile strike… I fear the monkey has just discovered the button that gives him a treat” - That’s something to be really afraid of. Reichstag fire anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3223 "2017-04-11T16:10:33Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Mark Rivers: “all this praise for Trump’s missile strike… I fear the monkey has just discovered the button that gives him a treat” Or [this](https://www.facebook.com/berkeleybreathed/photos/a.114529165244512.10815.108793262484769/1523679437662804/?type=3&theater) recent Bloom County (Facebook link–hasn’t made it to GoComics yet.) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3224 "2017-04-11T16:11:29Z")
If you wanted a corporate plaything in the White House who is guaranteed to engage us in an endless war – even several of them at the same time – you could not do better than the pretend president stooge currently ensconced there. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3225 "2017-04-11T17:00:22Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Not looking forward to this next week: > > [CBS News | Breaking news, top stories & today's latest headlines](http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2017/04/11/gorsuch-to-hear-mo-church-and-state-case/) > > whew! NG got nominated _just in time_ for this. > > Something tells me this won’t end well. “Violate the separation of church and state” my ass. The _federal_ government has awarded grants to churches via the National Endowment for the Arts. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3226 "2017-04-11T17:07:49Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Not looking forward to this next week: > > [CBS News | Breaking news, top stories & today's latest headlines](http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2017/04/11/gorsuch-to-hear-mo-church-and-state-case/) > > whew! NG got nominated _just in time_ for this. > > Something tells me this won’t end well. “. . . with rubber from recycled trees”??? I’m going to guess that they meant tires. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3227 "2017-04-11T17:10:07Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If you wanted a corporate plaything in the White House who is guaranteed to engage us in an endless war – even several of them at the same time – you could not do better than the pretend president stooge currently ensconced there. [America’s president is a fool](http://theweek.com/articles/690649/americas-president-fool) > [@](#): > > This is a president who once eviscerated his predecessor for meddling in Syria but has in a matter of days undergone a complete reversal and decided to lob a few dozen Tomahawk missiles at Assad; who ran as a populist but who also wants to cut taxes on the rich; who mercilessly attacked Goldman Sachs but then tapped several prominent people from the investment bank for his Cabinet and other senior positions; who promised no one would lose health insurance when ObamaCare was repealed but then pushed a bill that would have left 24 million fewer people insured; who spent two years denouncing existing free trade agreements but now can’t decide whether to break with existing trade policy. > … > The problem is that Trump shows not the slightest sign of possessing the prudence required to make such judgments with intelligence. He’s impetuous, vindictive, vain, motivated above all by a craving for popular adulation, incapable of reading more than a few words at a time in a briefing memo, and proudly ignorant of the details (or even broad outlines) of both domestic and foreign policy. He doesn’t even know how long he’s been president. He’s a fool. > > When a political leader prizes flexibility but lacks practical wisdom, what you have is an incredibly powerful person who does whatever he wants. That’s a recipe — the classic recipe — for tyranny. Especially when, as in Trump’s case, the leader is motivated above all by insatiable longing for public approval. Yep, this is what the voters wanted. Oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3228 "2017-04-11T17:13:42Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > “Violate the separation of church and state” my ass. The _federal_ government has awarded grants to churches via the National Endowment for the Arts. A few links so we can see the context? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3229 "2017-04-11T18:11:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > A few links so we can see the context? The easiest to find is [on the grant announcement from December](https://www.arts.gov/sites/default/files/fall-2016-grant-announcement-all-categories-revised3.pdf). [Castleton United Methodist Church](http://castletonumc.org/) applied for a grant on behalf of [this day program for adults](http://stillwatersadc.org/), which received $10K. I know there have been others, I worked for the NEA in '89. Like the Trinity Lutheran playground, that adult day program is on church property. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3230 "2017-04-11T20:28:20Z")
[Donald Trump’s White House can’t even organize the Easter Egg Roll](http://www.salon.com/2017/04/11/donald-trumps-white-house-cant-even-organize-the-easter-egg-roll/) 45 and his wife could not possibly care less. Other peoples’ kids? - to hell with them. > [@](#): > > Much of the discrepancy in this years slow planning seems to fall on the absence of the First Lady in Washington. Mrs. Trump, who lives in New York, has not enacted a full-staff for the East Wing, and such members have typically been responsible for leading the Easter festivities. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3231 "2017-04-11T20:42:34Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The easiest to find is [on the grant announcement from December](https://www.arts.gov/sites/default/files/fall-2016-grant-announcement-all-categories-revised3.pdf). [Castleton United Methodist Church](http://castletonumc.org/) applied for a grant on behalf of [this day program for adults](http://stillwatersadc.org/), which received $10K. I know there have been others, I worked for the NEA in '89. > > Like the Trinity Lutheran playground, that adult day program is on church property. I think this quote answers the question about which constitution is at issue, and also redirects to the thread on the Columbia church appeal. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20130071&postcount=53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20130071&postcount=53) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3232 "2017-04-11T20:46:39Z")
Sean [del]Pretzel[/del] Spicer [gets all entangled](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/11/sean_spicer_hitler_didn_t_use_chemical_weapons.html) by those word things and their confounded meaningy bits while telling us that Assad’s actions were unprecedented – even Hilter never used chemical weapons on his own people, for cripes sake. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3233 "2017-04-11T20:55:02Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The easiest to find is [on the grant announcement from December](https://www.arts.gov/sites/default/files/fall-2016-grant-announcement-all-categories-revised3.pdf). [Castleton United Methodist Church](http://castletonumc.org/) applied for a grant on behalf of [this day program for adults](http://stillwatersadc.org/), which received $10K. I know there have been others, I worked for the NEA in '89. > > Like the Trinity Lutheran playground, that adult day program is on church property. From the Stillwaters website. > [@](#): > > “What Lies Within,” a mixed media art installation for the lobby of Still Waters Adult Day Eastgate Center. > > “What Lies Within” is funded **in part** by a Challenge America Grant from the National Endowment for the Arts. Seems a bit of a reach. From the PDF. > [@](#): > > 10,000 > Castleton United Methodist Church, Inc. (On behalf of Still Waters Adult Day Center) Indianapolis, IN > To support the design and creation of a public art project at Still Waters Adult Day Center. > A professional artist will work with adults with dementia to create a mixed media work for installation at the center. Proposed public artist Sofiya Inger is a mixed media artist teaching and working in Indianapolis. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3234 "2017-04-11T21:03:04Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Sean [del]Pretzel[/del] Spicer [gets all entangled](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/11/sean_spicer_hitler_didn_t_use_chemical_weapons.html) by those word things and their confounded meaningy bits while telling us that Assad’s actions were unprecedented – even Hilter never used chemical weapons on his own people, for cripes sake. Christ! :smack: What a Fucking Moron :smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3235 "2017-04-11T21:06:42Z")
“Confounded Meaningy Bits” - band name or poetry slam group? You be the judge! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3236 "2017-04-11T21:12:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I think this quote answers the question about which constitution is at issue, and also redirects to the thread on the Columbia church appeal. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20130071&postcount=53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20130071&postcount=53) They’re using a 142-year-old amendment that was originally aimed at blocking Catholics from using public funds. I still say violating “the separation of church and state” isn’t the real issue. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3237 "2017-04-11T21:28:18Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > [Donald Trump’s White House can’t even organize the Easter Egg Roll](http://www.salon.com/2017/04/11/donald-trumps-white-house-cant-even-organize-the-easter-egg-roll/) It’s a War on Easter. He might win this one. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3238 "2017-04-12T01:05:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > “Confounded Meaningy Bits” - band name or poetry slam group? You be the judge! It’s those dang **words**! There are just so freakin’ **many** of them. And they mostly all mean something different! How can anyone keep up? There should be a book or website or something to help a fella out. Day 1- Sean Spicer says something stupid. Day 2- He backpedals, tries to 'splain, and winds up looking like a doofus. Rinse and repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3239 "2017-04-12T01:07:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Sean [del]Pretzel[/del] Spicer [gets all entangled](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/11/sean_spicer_hitler_didn_t_use_chemical_weapons.html) by those word things and their confounded meaningy bits while telling us that Assad’s actions were unprecedented – even Hilter never used chemical weapons on his own people, for cripes sake. Dude, quit pallin’ around with Bannon. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3240 "2017-04-12T03:27:54Z")
[Eric says Ivanka influence Daddy to bomb Syria.](https://theintellectualist.co/eric-trump-ivanka-influenced-dad-bomb-syria/) So, in other words, Ivanka was the last person he spoke to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=161) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=163)