# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1631
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32605 "2019-05-17T23:29:32Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > It’s actually sad. Carson as a young man was a world-class neurosurgeon and the youngest department head in the history of Johns Hopkins Hospital, one of the most prestigious in the world. Now he comes across as a befuddled loon. It is kinda sad. I think that Carson is possibly some type of savant. Brilliant neurosurgeon, but kind of a weirdo. Note the paintings he had in his house of Jesus with his hand on Ben’s shoulder. That’s just not normal for a man of science. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32606 "2019-05-17T23:42:39Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The problem of slavery is not that people were unhappy or mistreated or whipped - **everyone** was mistreated and whipped in those days be they factory workers, soldiers, wives, children, or anything else (though far less frequently than a slave) Wait. What? Factory workers were literally whipped like Black slaves? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32607 "2019-05-18T00:22:30Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Firstly, bartender or waitress aside, there was no “just” in my statement. You read that in, assuming that my statement meant something for or against the individuals being discussed, rather than just accepting the text as written. > > Secondly, while that is a more impressive resume than I was aware of, if I had been aware of it and thought that it negated her as being a good example of what I was discussing, then I simply would have used some other Congressperson. As said, my statement had nothing to do with AOC or Kushner, pro nor con, just the reality of how things work. > > Thirdly, while her credentials are better than I had been aware, it still remains that none of it makes her know anything about Macroeconomics. Put down the shovel. You’re just making the hole you’re in deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32608 "2019-05-18T00:24:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wait. What? Factory workers were literally whipped like Black slaves? I’m pretty sure factory owners rarely forced their workers to have sex with them. And I’ve never heard of a case where a factory owner took their workers’ children away and then sold them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32609 "2019-05-18T00:27:05Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Oh, what a surprise that someone in the Trump administration would misuse taxpayer money and tell lies! :rolleyes: No one could have foreseen this kind of thing happening now, more than 2 years into this administration! No one! Speak for yourself. I, for one, am astonished that two years into the Trump administration the Department of Housing and Urban Development still had forty thousand dollars in its budget. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32610 "2019-05-18T00:45:42Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What kind of a dishwasher costs $9,000? Or even “nearly” $9,000? I was going to say a commercial one (which seems reasonable, an executive dining room is going to potentially generate a lot of dishes), but it looks like you can one of those for under $4,000, and around $6,000 gets you what appears to be top of the line. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32611 "2019-05-18T00:54:00Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > It is kinda sad. I think that Carson is possibly some type of savant. > > Brilliant neurosurgeon, but kind of a weirdo. Note the paintings he had in his house of Jesus with his hand on Ben’s shoulder. That’s just not normal for a man of science. And let us also never forget his [theory about the pyramids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhol3WdB4QU&feature=youtu.be&t=18): > [@Ben Carson](#): > > My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids in order to store grain. Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it would just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain. And when you look at the way the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they would have to be that way for a reason. And, you know, various scientists have said, “Well, you know, there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how they were…” You know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32612 "2019-05-18T00:57:56Z")
So the extra 3 grand went into his pocket as the down payment for the next Jesus portrait. As for 19th century factory workers, read Herman Melville’s “The Paradise of Bachelors and the Tartarus of Maids.” Even eithout whippings and forced sex, those women had it mighty bad. > **[SAYLOR-ENGL405-5.2-PARADISE.pdf](https://resources.saylor.org/wwwresources/archived/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/SAYLOR-ENGL405-5.2-PARADISE.pdf)** > > 164.99 KB ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32613 "2019-05-18T01:20:17Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What kind of a dishwasher costs $9,000? Or even “nearly” $9,000? From The Hill, “HUD did violate section 710 when it obligated $31,561.00 for the purchase of a dining set for the HUD Secretary’s dining room and $8,812.84 for the purchase and installation of a new dishwasher and associated water treatment system in the kitchen connected to the dining room without providing advance notice to the Committees on Appropriations of the House of Representatives and the Senate.” So the $9,000 wasn’t _just_ for the dishwasher. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32614 "2019-05-18T01:23:36Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > So the extra 3 grand went into his pocket as the down payment for the next Jesus portrait. It appears he [lives in a shrine](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-displays-achievements-portraits-throughout-home) dedicated to himself, and Jesus, although Jesus only appears to be there to pay his respects to the good Dr Carson. P.S. Look out for the easily-spottable spelling error. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32615 "2019-05-18T01:28:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So the $9,000 wasn’t _just_ for the dishwasher. Thank god for this nugget of information. For a second there, I thought this was going to be an example of frivolous government spending by a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32616 "2019-05-18T01:52:53Z")
Note that I never said it wasn’t frivolous spending, just that the approximate $9,000 expense was not just for the actual cost of the dishwasher. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32617 "2019-05-18T02:13:47Z")
I can’t imagine Trump is happy seeing this on the state propaganda channel: [Chris Wallace on Fox News exclusive interview with AG Barr: ‘He clearly is protecting this president’](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chris-wallace-on-fox-news-exclusive-interview-with-ag-barr-he-clearly-is-protecting-this-president) > [@](#): > > “Fox News Sunday” anchor Chris Wallace weighed in on the Fox News exclusive interview with Attorney General William Barr, saying Friday that Barr “clearly is protecting this president and advocating his point of view.” > > Speaking on “America’s Newsroom,” Wallace said, “What really comes across to me most of all is that for two years, Donald Trump sat there and said I don’t have an attorney general, I don’t have somebody out there looking for and protecting my interests. He clearly has that now with Bill Barr.” > > “Not saying that Barr isn’t right in everything he says, but he clearly is protecting this president and advocating his point of view on a lot of these issues.” > > “And I suspect that President Trump, who probably has watched some of this interview himself, is saying finally, ‘No Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr instead,’” Wallace added. Hasn’t Wallace gotten the memo? One of the few over there that has any integrity. Someone mentioned that Trump sees a lawyer’s sole usefulness in life as being able to protect and enrich him before all else. ---
**Author:** ![sta3535](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@sta3535](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sta3535)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32618 "2019-05-18T02:33:48Z")
I haven’t heard/seen this much news about a president since George Bush back in the 2000’s. CNN has a field day because that’s the only way they can handle such a tragic loss, and they’re working adults! IMO, they should just accept the L & wait until 2024 because let’s be honest, Biden/Sanders vs. Trump? On an extra note, no one is perfect in life. We all make mistakes here & there because we’re human. However, Trump’s “errors” have been significant enough to the point of no return (Ex. His Bus Conversation) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32619 "2019-05-18T03:12:42Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I skimmed. Sorry, swap the word “Macroeconomics” to “Diplomacy”. So in your skimming you also missed international relations. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32620 "2019-05-18T03:54:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Note that I never said it wasn’t frivolous spending, just that the approximate $9,000 expense was not just for the actual cost of the dishwasher. Understood. My comment was aimed directly at Carson. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32621 "2019-05-18T04:00:36Z")
> [@sta3535](#): > > IMO, they should just accept the L & wait until 2024 because let’s be honest, Biden/Sanders vs. Trump? That would be the Biden who is leading Chump by 12 points in a recent poll asking about a match-up between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32622 "2019-05-18T04:05:25Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > It appears he [lives in a shrine](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-displays-achievements-portraits-throughout-home) dedicated to himself, and Jesus, although Jesus only appears to be there to pay his respects to the good Dr Carson. > > P.S. Look out for the easily-spottable spelling error. The irony of the plaque extolling humility overwhelmed me to the point that it took me two tries before I spotted the misspelling. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32623 "2019-05-18T04:59:09Z")
I’m surprised that nobody has posted this: > **[Trump invokes treason, calls for ‘long jail’ time for officials involved in...](https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/trump-invokes-treason-calls-for-long-jail-time-for-officials-involved-in-russia-probe-s-origins-59861573532)** > > WaPo’s Ashley Parker, AP’s Jonathan Lemire, NYT’s Nick Confessore, and former US Attorney Joyce Vance on the president turning up the volume on his war on justice Trump has now, with the confidence of knowing that his Attorney General is his loyal attack dog, is now threatening to jail members of the FBI. Look, I know you all called me Chicken Little, but now it is beyond clear that I was right. I tried to educate you naive children. I tried to, but you wouldn’t listen. You ridiculed me. You still do. But let’s be honest: I know you’re starting to shit your pants, because the reality that I have predicted, is here. Read my posts, and subscribe to the rare, razor-sharp analysis that I offer. You have only a limited time. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32624 "2019-05-18T05:14:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Trump has now, with the confidence of knowing that his Attorney General is his loyal attack dog, is now threatening to jail members of the FBI. Trump has been threatening to jail people for three years now. How is this news? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1630) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1632)