# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1632
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32625 "2019-05-18T05:26:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has been threatening to jail people for three years now. How is this news? He now has the AG to make this happen --that is YUUUGE news. Authoritarianism starts with consent, with authoritarians telling voters what he would like to do. Then they vote for it. Then they challenge democracy. Make no mistake about it: for democracy in America, this is a code red. We are in mortal danger of losing democracy, and primarily because Americans are fucking morons. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32626 "2019-05-18T06:20:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He now has the AG to make this happen --that is YUUUGE news. I’m not sure Bob Barr has enough power to get a traffic ticket squashed. Will Trump hurt this country? Absolutely. But he’ll do it by tripping over his own feet not by carrying out some sinister plan. As I’ve said before, Trump couldn’t successfully hold up a convenience store if you dropped him off in the parking lot and put the gun in his hand. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32627 "2019-05-18T12:59:13Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Not even this part? > I mean, I guess it’s possible that she graduated with a degree in economics and learned nothing about macroeconomics, but it seems unlikely. For those who are interested, here’s a clip of AOC at a hearing grilling a pharma executive over drug pricing and talking about commodities and the elasticity of demand curves: [AOC Confronts Gilead CEO for $2,000 Price Tag for HIV Drug Truvada](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma2FvPTi5uQ) I have limited knowledge of economic theory and don’t know whether price levels in a single industry like pharma would be considered macroeconomics or microeconomics (I suspect micro), but I’d bet she knows more about economics than Jared Kushner. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32628 "2019-05-18T13:07:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > IAs I’ve said before, Trump couldn’t successfully hold up a convenience store if you dropped him off in the parking lot and put the gun in his hand. Yes, Trump is an incompetent buffoon, but he does possess the ability to get more competent people to do his bidding: “Bill, I’m going to give you this gun someone gave me–tremendous gun, by the way–it’s true, and I want you to go into 7-11 there and bring me out all that beautiful, beautiful money in the cash register”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32629 "2019-05-18T13:11:45Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Yes, Trump is an incompetent buffoon, but he does possess the ability to get more competent people to do his bidding: Because he holds out the promise of money. Without that, he has nothing. As POTUS he tries to add a promise of power as well, but the truth is we can deny him that ability. And if we see from his tax returns that he really has no money, well… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32630 "2019-05-18T13:53:41Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Yes, Trump is an incompetent buffoon, but he does possess the ability to get more competent people to do his bidding [Underline mine] In a thread about Kushner, Carson, and Barr (lately) I’m gonna have to ask for a cite on that statement. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32631 "2019-05-18T14:53:41Z")
“More” competent. A class that includes slugs and pond scum. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32632 "2019-05-18T15:04:09Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > [Underline mine] > > In a thread about Kushner, Carson, and Barr (lately) I’m gonna have to ask for a cite on that statement. Well, relative to Trump himself–the business artist of the deal who lost a billion dollars in a decade. Kushner may be slightly less incompetent and doesn’t seem to have Trump’s massive ego (although, who does?), and he’s no business genius either, with the 666 5th Avenue purchase (which raises his conflicts of interest with trying to get bailed out by foreign money). Barr so far is doing what Trump wants–they got their initial spin on the Mueller report out, but we’ll see what happens in the end. He’s stymied congressional oversight so far and is conducting his dog-and-pony investigation into the investigators. But as I mentioned, as a younger man Carson was a very competent neurosurgeon. Here’s a cite about what made his name: [Patrick and Benjamin Binder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_and_Benjamin_Binder) > [@](#): > > Patrick and Benjamin Binder (born February 2, 1987) were conjoined twins, joined at the head, born in Germany in early 1987, and separated at Johns Hopkins Hospital on September 7, 1987.[1] They were the first twins to be successfully separated by neurosurgeon Ben Carson, of Baltimore, Maryland. For this operation Carson was able to prepare by studying a three-dimensional physical model of the twins’ anatomy. Carson described this separation as the first of its kind, with 23 similar attempted separations ending in the death of one or both twins. Unfortunately, this story did not have a happy ending. > [@](#): > > Although Carson was able to separate the boys, they were both left profoundly disabled. The Associated Press reported, in 1989, two years after the separation, that Patrick remained in a “vegetative state”, following the surgery.[2] He never came out of his coma. According to a 2015 Washington Post article, he “died sometime in the last decade”.[3] > > Benjamin recovered to a certain extent.[2] The Washington Post reported that Peter Parlagi, the twins’ uncle, said their father was emotionally unable to ever handle them, or share in their care.[3] He said the twin’s father became an alcoholic, spent all the couple’s funds, and left their mother destitute and alone. She was forced to institutionalize them.[3] > > In a 1993 interview, their mother, Theresia Binder, described guilt for agreeing to the operation that ruined the boys’ prospect of ever having any quality of life.[3] According to the Washington Post’s 2015 interview with Parlagi, Benjamin never learned to speak or feed himself, but he does enjoy visitors, and being taken for walks.[3] And it’s sad to see what Carson is today compared to what he was doing 30 years ago. Now he [spouts scientific ignorance](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ben-carsons-scientific-ignorance) instead of doing ground-breaking medicine. He’s not competent in what he’s been tasked to do today. Does he have any real qualifications to be HUD secretary? He once lived in a house? Carson actually said he was unqualified to be HHS secretary and that would have been at least related to his background. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32633 "2019-05-18T16:07:39Z")
In the sound clips I heard Friday, where he touted his new immigration policy, Trump sounded as though he were reading from a teleprompter, and about half asleep. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32634 "2019-05-18T18:54:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m surprised that nobody has posted this: > > [https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/trump-invokes-treason-calls-for-long-jail-time-for-officials-involved-in-russia-probe-s-origins-59861573532](https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/trump-invokes-treason-calls-for-long-jail-time-for-officials-involved-in-russia-probe-s-origins-59861573532) > > Trump has now, with the confidence of knowing that his Attorney General is his loyal attack dog, is now threatening to jail members of the FBI. > > Look, I know you all called me Chicken Little, but now it is beyond clear that I was right. I tried to educate you naive children. I tried to, but you wouldn’t listen. You ridiculed me. You still do. But let’s be honest: I know you’re starting to shit your pants, because the reality that I have predicted, is here. > > Read my posts, and subscribe to the rare, razor-sharp analysis that I offer. **You have only a limited time.** The self-congratulatory obnoxiousness in this has inspired me to respond by offering this paraphrase of Marvin Lee Aday: _I wish Forever would hurry up and get here already…_ ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32635 "2019-05-18T21:51:03Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And it’s sad to see what Carson is today compared to what he was doing 30 years ago. Now he [spouts scientific ignorance](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ben-carsons-scientific-ignorance) instead of doing ground-breaking medicine. He’s not competent in what he’s been tasked to do today. Does he have any real qualifications to be HUD secretary? He once lived in a house? A house? I’m pretty sure he lives in a pyramid. As for the science, notice that he’s not criticizing _ **all** _ scientists, just the “highfalutin” ones, who probably deserve it. Nobody likes highfalutin scientists. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32636 "2019-05-18T21:54:29Z")
The Asshole-In-Chief [used Air Force One and the Presidential Seal](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/its-entirely-inappropriate-trump-shot-a-political-video-on-air-force-one/ar-AABy6I5?ocid=spartandhp) in a political video he shot. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32637 "2019-05-18T22:07:42Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > A house? I’m pretty sure he lives in a pyramid. > > As for the science, notice that he’s not criticizing _ **all** _ scientists, just the “highfalutin” ones, who probably deserve it. Nobody likes highfalutin scientists. Take it as you will. Having a MD does not make you a scientist. That’s what a PhD is for. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32638 "2019-05-19T00:13:58Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Take it as you will. Having a MD does not make you a scientist. That’s what a PhD is for. That was supposed to be a joke. Carson is such a complete blithering moron that it’s a wonder he can walk upright. I can’t imagine how anyone who went to school at all, at any level, could have such an appalling lack of understanding of even the most elementary scientific concepts. It’s like his ignorance is some kind of performance art. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32639 "2019-05-19T01:11:09Z")
[Justin Amash (R-MI) is now calling for Loser Donald to be impeached.](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/18/politics/justin-amash-trump-impeachable-conduct/index.html) I knew I liked him when I saw him in the Cohen hearings and he actually asked questions relevant to the investigation instead of rambling about book deals and movies like the other Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32640 "2019-05-19T01:19:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Justin Amash (R-MI) is now calling for Loser Donald to be impeached.](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/18/politics/justin-amash-trump-impeachable-conduct/index.html) > > I knew I liked him when I saw him in the Cohen hearings and he actually asked questions relevant to the investigation instead of rambling about book deals and movies like the other Republicans. Gonads found on the Pubbie side in the House! :eek: Thump Twitter attack in 3…2…1… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32641 "2019-05-19T01:58:09Z")
Yeah, that’s nice, but what I REALLY want to see is some GOP SENATORS calling for impeachment ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32642 "2019-05-19T02:10:04Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Yeah, that’s nice, but what I REALLY want to see is some GOP SENATORS calling for impeachment Hey, it’s a start! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32643 "2019-05-19T07:16:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Thump Twitter attack in 3…2…1… “Ever since Spineless Justin Amash came to my Office, ranting like a dog that he needed my Help to become Speaker of the House (and I said NO!), all he has done is help Nancy and the many other haters of “Trump”. A total disgrace to M. Must resign NOW!” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32644 "2019-05-19T14:46:14Z")
Close. > [@](#): > > “Never a fan of @justinamash, a total lightweight who opposes me and some of our great Republican ideas and policies just for the sake of getting his name out there through controversy. If he actually read the biased Mueller Report, “composed” by 18 Angry Dems who hated Trump,… > …he would see that it was nevertheless strong on NO COLLUSION and, ultimately, NO OBSTRUCTION…Anyway, how do you Obstruct when there is no crime and, in fact, the crimes were committed by the other side? Justin is a loser who sadly plays right into our opponents hands!” [https://www.axios.com/trump-attacks-rep-justin-amash-impeachment-5070a4b9-2f57-489f-b747-6bcf1e38c532.html](https://www.axios.com/trump-attacks-rep-justin-amash-impeachment-5070a4b9-2f57-489f-b747-6bcf1e38c532.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1631) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1633)