# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32645 "2019-05-19T15:40:12Z")

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18 angry Democrats now? Last year it was only 13.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32646 "2019-05-19T16:04:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> 18 angry Democrats now? Last year it was only 13.

You are a doubleplusungood doublethinker. It’s always been 18.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32647 "2019-05-19T16:21:58Z")

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So the Mueller report is totally biased and fake news but it totally exonerates Trump and everyone in his campaign?

You’d think somebody who lies so much would be better at it.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32648 "2019-05-19T16:23:12Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> You are a doubleplusungood doublethinker. It’s always been 18.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

“13 Angry Democrats” sounded a bit too much like Jesus and his twelve disciples.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32649 "2019-05-19T16:24:59Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> I have limited knowledge of economic theory and don’t know whether price levels in a single industry like pharma would be considered macroeconomics or microeconomics (I suspect micro), but I’d bet she knows more about economics than Jared Kushner.

Both. They’re micro from the point of view of the company’s accounting; macro from that of how they affect the country’s economy. What makes something micro or macro isn’t the concept itself: it’s the point of view.

Note that the effect on the country’s economy isn’t only monetary: if, say, ibuprofen prices multiplied by 1000 tomorrow, the consequences in terms of missed hours of paid and unpaid work would be huge.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32650 "2019-05-19T16:47:24Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So the Mueller report is totally biased and fake news but it totally exonerates Trump and everyone in his campaign?
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> You’d think somebody who lies so much would be better at it.

It’s much easier when your audience is too stupid to notice the side by side contradictions. And more than willing to deny them when it’s pointed out.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32651 "2019-05-19T17:53:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So the Mueller report is totally biased and fake news but it totally exonerates Trump and everyone in his campaign?
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> You’d think somebody who lies so much would be better at it.

And also, there was no crime, but the crime that wasn’t committed was committed by the other side.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32652 "2019-05-19T18:51:17Z")

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Geez, thump is easy to bait.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32653 "2019-05-19T19:01:45Z")

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Christ, yes. The son of a bitch just can’t let ANYTHING slide.

“A minor Michigan congressman said something against me? WHAR MY TWEET-PHONE???”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32654 "2019-05-19T19:24:15Z")

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I’m surprised he hasn’t said anything about Amash’s Arabic ancestry.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32655 "2019-05-19T19:45:57Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> …“13 Angry Democrats” sounded a bit too much like Jesus and his twelve disciples.

Il Douche is the one with the 30 pieces of silver that he is reluctant to account for.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32656 "2019-05-19T19:51:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Close.  
> [https://www.axios.com/trump-attacks-rep-justin-amash-impeachment-5070a4b9-2f57-489f-b747-6bcf1e38c532.html](https://www.axios.com/trump-attacks-rep-justin-amash-impeachment-5070a4b9-2f57-489f-b747-6bcf1e38c532.html)

Like Trump himself has read the report. Sumbitch probably didn’t even read Barr’s 4 page long doorstopper.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32657 "2019-05-19T20:11:24Z")

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> [@kobal2](#):
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> like trump himself has read the report. Sumbitch probably didn’t even read barr’s 4 page long doorstopper.

EEK! Four pages! Tl;dr!

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32658 "2019-05-19T20:55:53Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> EEK! Four pages! Tl;dr!

In this case, I have a feeling “dr” means “duck & run.”

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32659 "2019-05-19T21:57:02Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So the Mueller report is totally biased and fake news but it totally exonerates Trump and everyone in his campaign?
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> You’d think somebody who lies so much would be better at it.

Chump doesn’t have to be better at it. To his troglodyte base, Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32660 "2019-05-20T03:49:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Il Douche is the one with the 30 pieces of silver that he is reluctant to account for.

Lost 23 in one of his casinos and used the other 7 to pay for sex.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32661 "2019-05-20T22:00:48Z")

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Well, looks like we have [Judge Ahmit Mehta](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/mazars-trump-records/index.html) says he “has told the accounting firm Mazars it will need to turn over Donald Trump’s accounting records from before he was President to the Democratic-controlled House Oversight Committee.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32662 "2019-05-20T22:17:43Z")

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[Just saw the AP News story about Judge Mehta’s ruling](https://apnews.com/49d1caabd0124ef1b874eec67302c55d).

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> U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, said Trump cannot block a House subpoena of financial records. He said the Democratic-led House committee seeking the information has said it believes the documents would help lawmakers consider strengthening ethics and disclosure laws, among other things.
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> The committee’s reasons were “valid legislative purposes,” Mehta said, and it was not for him “to question whether the Committee’s actions are truly motivated by political considerations.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32663 "2019-05-20T22:26:41Z")

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First: I hate the fact that these days every reference to a judge’s ruling has to include which President appointed him.

But that said: HEE HEE HEE…this ought to be good. Tweet-storm coming!

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32664 "2019-05-20T22:57:21Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Well, looks like we have [Judge Ahmit Mehta](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/mazars-trump-records/index.html) says he “has told the accounting firm Mazars it will need to turn over Donald Trump’s accounting records from before he was President to the Democratic-controlled House Oversight Committee.”

It will be appealed immediately to the DC Appeals Court - whose Chief Judge is Merrick Garland.

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