# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1645
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32885 "2019-05-24T17:56:03Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Oh, heavens to Betsy! You should know by now that when Republicans do something slimy, Democrats NEVER retaliate in kind! No, no…we take the HIGH ROAD. > > Incidentally, one of those people out there sharing the doctored video that makes Pelosi look like a drunk is “Mr. Integrity,” Rudy Giuliani. > > [WHOOPS: Giuliani Busted With Doctored Pelosi Video As He Tweets About Integrity | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-nancy-pelosi-video_n_5ce750afe4b0a2f9f28c4f44) And when called out for it he said he would apologize to Pelosi if she would apologize to Individual 1. * * * Individual 1 names the names of people whom he would not rule out executing for treason. > **[Trump refuses to rule out opponents being executed for treason: 'They tried...](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-refuses-rule-opponents-being-101115081.html)** > > Donald Trump conspicuously failed to deny former FBI officials involved in probes into his presidential campaign should be put to death for what he describes as treason. The US president listed former FBI directors James Comey and Andrew McCabe, as... ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32886 "2019-05-24T18:26:57Z")
Trump proposes dropping healthcare for transgender people > **[Trump Administration Proposes Nixing Health Care Protections For Transgender...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-transgender-health-care-protections_n_5ce80495e4b0a2f9f28e1622)** > > The announcement comes just days after the Trump administration proposed removing homeless shelter protections for transgender people. …after proposing that Homeless Shelters can turn away transgender people > **[Trump Admin Rule Would Allow Homeless Shelters To Shut Out Transgender People](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-transgender-homeless-shelter-equal-access_n_5ce56715e4b0547bd130a0db)** > > HUD Secretary Ben Carson's department proposes weakening Equal Access Rule protections for transgender people established in 2012. And yet they’re selling **LGBTQ For Trump** T-shirts > **[Advocates Shred 'LGBTQ For Trump' T-Shirt Sale Ahead Of Pride Month](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lgbtq-for-trump-t-shirts_n_5ce7e45ae4b0cce67c8968eb)** > > The president has never acknowledged June as Pride Month, but his campaign wants you to buy a discounted rainbow shirt anyway. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32887 "2019-05-24T18:36:19Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Trump proposes dropping healthcare for transgender people > > [Trump Administration Proposes Nixing Health Care Protections For Transgender People | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-transgender-health-care-protections_n_5ce80495e4b0a2f9f28e1622) > > …after proposing that Homeless Shelters can turn away transgender people > > [Trump Admin Rule Would Allow Homeless Shelters To Shut Out Transgender People | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-transgender-homeless-shelter-equal-access_n_5ce56715e4b0547bd130a0db) > And yet they’re selling **LGBTQ For Trump** T-shirts > > [Advocates Shred 'LGBTQ For Trump' T-Shirt Sale Ahead Of Pride Month | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lgbtq-for-trump-t-shirts_n_5ce7e45ae4b0cce67c8968eb) If you notice the pattern, it’s going after the vulnerable minorities first. They don’t go after African Americans or Jews - not yet. Sure they’ll wink and nod at police brutality, and they’ll say “Some very fine people” were chanting “Jews will not replace us,” but they save their terror for brown migrants coming into the country and brown Muslims at home and abroad. That’s the bone they’re throwing to the racists for the time being. They haven’t gone after gays or gay marriage - not yet. They’ll just dehumanize the transgendered and treat them like subhuman animals. They haven’t tried to roll back women’s rights. They’re just going after the evil slutty whores who stand up for abortion rights and the right not to be treated like a sex toy in the workplace. That’s the bone they’re throwing to religious nuts. But if you’re naive enough to think that they won’t eventually come for you…LOL, keep wearing sunglasses. It’s a game of divide and conquer. That’s how a minority rules everyone else. Marginalize someone. Take the stronger among the weaker classes and make them feel like they at least have someone else they can be better than. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32888 "2019-05-24T19:02:49Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > And yet they’re selling **LGBTQ For Trump** T-shirts > > [Advocates Shred 'LGBTQ For Trump' T-Shirt Sale Ahead Of Pride Month | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lgbtq-for-trump-t-shirts_n_5ce7e45ae4b0cce67c8968eb) > [@](#): > > Advocates Shred ‘LGBTQ For Trump’ T-Shirt Sale Ahead Of Pride Month It is possible that people are only buying them to shred them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32889 "2019-05-24T19:42:26Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I, for one, was totally reassured about Trump’s sanity once he forced a parade of aides to talk about how sane he is. Were any of these aides named David Dennison, John Miller, Carolin Gallego, or John Barron? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32890 "2019-05-24T20:11:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > “Some very fine people” were chanting “Jews will not replace us,” Huh, all this time I thought it was “_ **YOU** _ will not replace us!”, i.e. a defiant challenge to anyone who was thinking about replacing the protesters. I also have trouble parsing song lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32891 "2019-05-24T23:47:06Z")
Oh wow, SCOTUS rules that maybe Gerrymandering along racial lines isn’t a problem after all. Who would have guessed? > **[Supreme Court blocks gerrymandering rulings in Michigan and Ohio](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/supreme-court-blocks-gerrymandering-michigan-ohio-1344369)** > > Lower courts had thrown out GOP-drawn district lines in both states, ruling that they were unconstitutional partisan gerrymanders. The hits keep on coming, eh? Oh well, as JohnT, John DiFool, Sunny Daze, Guinastasia, and Sad Lender say, call your senator. Go door to door, and get out the vote. You’ll show 'em then. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32892 "2019-05-24T23:53:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Oh wow, SCOTUS rules that maybe Gerrymandering along racial lines isn’t a problem after all. Who would have guessed? > > [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/supreme-court-blocks-gerrymandering-michigan-ohio-1344369](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/supreme-court-blocks-gerrymandering-michigan-ohio-1344369) > > The hits keep on coming, eh? > > Oh well, as JohnT, John DiFool, Sunny Daze, Guinastasia, and Sad Lender say, call your senator. Go door to door, and get out the vote. You’ll show 'em then. LOL I assume you meant “partisan”, not racial? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32893 "2019-05-25T00:04:42Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I assume you meant “partisan”, not racial? Uh, yeah. “Partisan”:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32894 "2019-05-25T00:21:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Oh well, as JohnT, John DiFool, Sunny Daze, Guinastasia, and Sad Lender say, call your senator. Go door to door, and get out the vote. You’ll show 'em then. LOL Good advice from that lot. But the LOLing makes you look pretty fucking stupid. What’s _your_ counsel, you self appointed Cassandra? Is it rioting / armed insurrection? Some less radical but more effective strategies for change? What actions do you actually advocate? If you just want to say “we’re fucked” or “give up” or “it’s all gonna go to shit, pack your ‘go bags’ and be ready”, then why don’t you go do that and STFU with this sad and boring superior dance you do. This board is full of smart and politically ept, sociologically astute people. You don’t rank quite where you seem to believe you do in their numbers. But you’re up near the top in affected cynicism, I’ll give you that. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32895 "2019-05-25T00:24:39Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Good advice from that lot. But the LOLing makes you look pretty fucking stupid. What’s _your_ counsel, you self appointed Cassandra? Is it rioting / armed insurrection? Some less radical but more effective strategies for change? What actions do you actually advocate? > > If you just want to say “we’re fucked” or “give up” or “it’s all gonna go to shit, pack your ‘go bags’ and be ready”, then why don’t you go do that and STFU with this sad and boring superior dance you do. > > This board is full of smart and politically ept, sociologically astute people. You don’t rank quite where you seem to believe you do in their numbers. But you’re up near the top in affected cynicism, I’ll give you that. Nope, quite the contrary, these fucking smart-asses ridiculed me and said I was nuts for thinking we’d get to this point. Made threads about me. Shit posted me. So it’s on them to fucking come back and own up. Everyone here knows what I’m talking about. I wasn’t the one who started this shit. I didn’t call out other posters, but fuck it, if they want to label me a chicken little or wacko, fine. But they’re fucking stupid now. There’s not a goddamn person reading this thread who doesn’t seriously believe that Trump and the GOP couldn’t actually succeed in turning this country into an authoritarian state and destroy the constitution. Asahi \> the aforementioned. Everyone knows it now. Just in case we’re not clear: fuck you, Sad Lender. I never bothered you, but you fuckin called me out. Fuck you ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32896 "2019-05-25T00:30:43Z")
I predict he won’t respond. He’ll privately complain to a moderator that I upset him and just quietly leave. Bitch. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32897 "2019-05-25T00:33:14Z")
What’s really sad is that if could be a complete clueless moron that ends up taking the US down. Perhaps the republicans tried with Bush the lesser. And then Trump came along, and they just might do it. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32898 "2019-05-25T00:38:23Z")
**asahi** : ATFQ Or not. But you keep avoiding the question every time it’s asked of you, and this dodge is no better than your usual. Illustrative of why you’re really not someone I feel compelled to pay attention to. But you’re just in _every damned political thread_ and I don’t block anyone so you’re hard to disregard to the level merited by your relative rhetorical skill and political acumen. So I tried to prompt something more productive from you. (And by the way, plenty of people opined that Trump had a chance to succeed in 2016, and even those who thought differently could -and in some numbers actually did- describe with a remarkable degree of clarity and accuracy the problems which would be incumbent in a Trump administration. Why you think you’re anything special there, other than being derided for the remarkably foolish moral certainty you exhibited then and now, I have no idea.) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32899 "2019-05-25T00:42:10Z")
Meanwhile back to our regularly scheduled programming: > **[Intel chief warns Barr could imperil national security by declassifying...](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/barr-dan-coats-intelligence-declassify-1344531)** > > The remarks come after Trump granted Barr sweeping investigative powers Thursday. Here we have the chief intel guy (maybe one of the last few “normal” leaders in the entire executive branch of the federal government), Daniel Coats, trying to explain the consequences of Pitbull Barr – er, Attorney General Barr’s recent policy moves. Let’s get this out on the fucking table. We have an attorney general who has basically gone on record to defend the president in whatever the hell he does, and he is being warned by the chief intel guy that he is threatening to blow up our entire intel gathering apparatus. Understand this: people can, and probably will, get **MURDERED** because of this fat fucking cocksucker’s desire to protect a corrupt president. Tell me, JohnT and Sad Lender, what the fucking fuck do you think now? Think this can be fixed by just calling your rep, going door to door? Think you can fix this by making other posters look ridiculous? You fuckers don’t have a goddam clue – you never did. Just shut yer goddamn mouth. Everyone else, fucking read what I post, because I know shit (that maybe morons don’t). ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32900 "2019-05-25T00:44:50Z")
Oh wow, Trump is going to declare an ‘emergency’ to give Saudis (that’s right, the same fuckers who were involved in 9/11) weapons. Do we ever fucking learn? Rhetorical question -don’t answer. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32901 "2019-05-25T00:53:34Z")
“I tried to warn you people!” Go fuck yourself. And fuck off, too. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32902 "2019-05-25T00:54:54Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “I tried to warn you people!” > Go fuck yourself. And fuck off, too. Fuck you. 🆒 Don’t give a shit if you like me, assume that you don’t. Fuck off, cvnt ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32903 "2019-05-25T00:55:51Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Meanwhile back to our regularly scheduled programming: > > [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/barr-dan-coats-intelligence-declassify-1344531](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/24/barr-dan-coats-intelligence-declassify-1344531) > > Here we have the chief intel guy (maybe one of the last few “normal” leaders in the entire executive branch of the federal government), Daniel Coats, trying to explain the consequences of Pitbull Barr – er, Attorney General Barr’s recent policy moves. > > Let’s get this out on the fucking table. We have an attorney general who has basically gone on record to defend the president in whatever the hell he does, and he is being warned by the chief intel guy that he is threatening to blow up our entire intel gathering apparatus. Understand this: people can, and probably will, get **MURDERED** because of this fat fucking cocksucker’s desire to protect a corrupt president. > > Tell me, JohnT and Sad Lender, what the fucking fuck do you think now? Think this can be fixed by just calling your rep, going door to door? Think you can fix this by making other posters look ridiculous? You fuckers don’t have a goddam clue – you never did. Just shut yer goddamn mouth. > > Everyone else, fucking read what I post, because I know shit (that maybe morons don’t). C’mon now. Who knew that a concentration of power in the state to ram through one agenda would eventually be hijacked to ram through a different one? It’s not like anything like that has ever been written in history books or something. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32904 "2019-05-25T01:05:43Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > C’mon now. Who knew that a concentration of power in the state to ram through one agenda would eventually be hijacked to ram through a different one? It’s not like anything like that has ever been written in history books or something. Oh like you cared in 2001/2 when they signed the USA Patriot Act and created DHS. Bruh, you didn’t care, did you? Didn’t think so. Silence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1644) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1646)