# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32985 "2019-05-28T14:31:46Z")

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His dignity. Mmm, yes. Quite.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32986 "2019-05-28T14:46:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> it appears that Trump strongly resembles the Red Queen from _Alice in Wonderland_[, screaming “Traitor!” instead of “Off with their Heads!” and then not following through, either because it would be boring, or he forgot, or he considered it below his dignity.

Nitpick: Queen of Hearts. The Red Queen was in Through The Looking Glass and was the one who had to run faster and faster just to stay still.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32987 "2019-05-28T15:08:46Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Nitpick: Queen of Hearts. The Red Queen was in Through The Looking Glass and was the one who had to run faster and faster just to stay still.

Sorry. Should’ve remembered. After all, he likes his tarts.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32988 "2019-05-28T15:12:19Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I saw this story yesterday. :smack: It’s worth quoting a couple of lines:  
> Good soldier, following her Fuehrer’s example. :dubious:

This is what struck me:

> [@](#):
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> Earlier this month, Patton joined a Twitter feud between Eric Trump and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. The president’s son and de Blasio were trading barbs on Twitter when Patton chimed in to write “You know what else has GONE TO [S\*\*T] under the watch of the @NYCMayor? The largest public housing authority in the Western Hemisphere, housing more people than the entire city of Miami: @NYCHA! Thank goodness @SecretaryCarson’s federal monitor will fix it!”

Ben Carson is going to fix housing? When? After milk and cookies and his nap?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32989 "2019-05-28T15:17:52Z")

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I’m kind of surprised that the regional head of HUD is (apparently) a political appointee. I would have thought that would have been a civil service position.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32990 "2019-05-28T15:38:28Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The cult of Trump has infected our professional military.
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> [https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1133203283227529217/photo/1](https://t.co/rQKAyrcDte)

Freely advertising that their crew needs to be made great again strikes me as a curious self-own, or at least an overt insult to their former members. But hey, nobody asked for my civilian opinion…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32991 "2019-05-28T16:34:08Z")

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If it was their idea, got no problem with unless they were ordered to do it. After all, lots of photos of guys in Viet Nam with “peace signs” and “FTA!” on their helmets.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32992 "2019-05-28T16:35:59Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well yeah, this so-clled president is the first to let them have a “happy” Memorial Day!  
> Onboard the appropriately named USS WASP:  
> “I have to wish you all a very happy Memorial Day,” Trump said. “On this Memorial Day evening in the United States, Americans are concluding a sacred day of remembrance, reflection and prayer.”  
> Before appearing on the USS Wasp, Trump and first lady Melania Trump visited a Japanese destroyer, the J.S. Kaga, docked nearby. Standing alongside Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Trump delivered the same “happy Memorial Day” message to the Japanese forces."  
> [Trump wishes troops 'happy Memorial Day' as he heads home from Japan](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-wish-troops-happy-memorial-day-he-heads-home-japan-n1010631)

What he meant to say was Happy Hiroshima Day.

- stolen from another board.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32993 "2019-05-28T16:41:29Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The cult of Trump has infected our professional military.
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> [https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1133203283227529217/photo/1](https://t.co/rQKAyrcDte)

Let’s hope they won’t be forced to swear personal loyalty to the Orange One the way the White House staff has.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32994 "2019-05-28T16:42:15Z")

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Because sticking your head in the sand is a viable solution:

[The Trump administration is reportedly stepping up its war against climate science by forcing scientists to omit key details from a major report](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-stepping-up-its-war-against-climate-science-2019-5)

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> \*The Trump administration is stepping up its war against measures to address climate change, according to The New York Times.
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> \*The administration reportedly plans to prevent the National Climate Assessment, a report funded by the federal government, from assessing worst-case scenarios in its four-year reports.
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> \*The US Geological Survey will also be made to change its modeling to project only until 21040, not a century ahead, as in previous assessments, The Times said.
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> \*“What we have here is a pretty blatant attempt to politicize the science — to push the science in a direction that’s consistent with their politics,” Philip B. Duffy, the president of the Woods Hole Research Center, told The Times.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32995 "2019-05-28T17:26:33Z")

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This is dated May 26.

The Rolling Thunder motorcycle ride which goes to Washington every year to raise awareness for veterans’ issues, has announced that they won’t be doing it any more, to concentrate on local events. Individual 1, while in Japan, claimed that the issues have been worked out and the ride will continue next year, and further on. The founder of Rolling Thunder has no idea where that information is coming from.

> **[Trump Says Rolling Thunder D.C.'s Ride Won't End This Year, Mystifying...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolling-thunder-return-washington-204238373.html)**
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> "I know he means well but I don't know what the story is with they're 'working it out with us,'" Artie Muller said.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32996 "2019-05-28T17:42:03Z")

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“Published 3 hours ago, update 1 hour ago”

When Elaine Chao (Mitch McConnell’s wife) was nominated to be Secretary of Transportation, she pledged to divest herself of her shares in Vulcan Materials, a construction company with contracts with the Department of Transportation. She hasn’t.

> **[Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao reportedly still holds construction co....](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/28/transportation-secy-chao-reportedly-retained-construction-co-stake-she-pledged-to-divest.html)**
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> Elaine Chao's shares have risen in value by more than $40,000 since the month she said she would let go of them, The Wall Street Journal reported.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32997 "2019-05-28T17:42:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> “Published 3 hours ago, update 1 hour ago”  
> …

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> This is dated May 26.

🙂

> [@](#):
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> The Rolling Thunder motorcycle ride which goes to Washington every year to raise awareness for veterans’ issues, has announced that they won’t be doing it any more, to concentrate on local events. Individual 1, while in Japan, claimed that the issues have been worked out and the ride will continue next year, and further on. The founder of Rolling Thunder has no idea where that information is coming from.
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> [Trump Says Rolling Thunder D.C.'s Ride Won't End This Year, Mystifying Event's Founder](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolling-thunder-return-washington-204238373.html)

I can tell him where it came from. It came from the President’s lower intestine.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32998 "2019-05-28T17:46:47Z")

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Trump talking shit again.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/32999 "2019-05-28T17:53:38Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> This is dated May 26.
> 
> The Rolling Thunder motorcycle ride which goes to Washington every year to raise awareness for veterans’ issues, has announced that they won’t be doing it any more, to concentrate on local events. Individual 1, while in Japan, claimed that the issues have been worked out and the ride will continue next year, and further on. The founder of Rolling Thunder has no idea where that information is coming from.
> 
> [Trump Says Rolling Thunder D.C.'s Ride Won't End This Year, Mystifying Event's Founder](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolling-thunder-return-washington-204238373.html)

NPR [reported](https://www.npr.org/2019/05/25/726965544/rolling-to-a-halt-memorial-day-motorcycle-rally-ends-30-year-tradition) that the reason they cancelled the ride was the cost of about $200,000, which the Pentagon charges for use of the parking lot, security, toilets and so forth. So unless Trump knows someone who is willing to cover the costs, I don’t know what he’s thinking.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33000 "2019-05-28T18:00:19Z")

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A possibility-A bunch of Trumpettes on cycles form _Trump’s Thunder_ and go to funerals unbidden to promote him.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33001 "2019-05-28T22:51:44Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> A possibility-A bunch of Trumpettes on cycles form _Trump’s Thunder_ and go to funerals unbidden to promote him.

And yell at the mourners, a la Westboro Baptist Church.  
ETA: Had a couple hundred Harley riders show up at our church for a funeral\*, and despite being dressed like Hell’s Angels, they were respectful, and polite to the old church ladies. And quiet (as soon as they turned off their bikes).

\*It was for Bill Davidson, the other half of Harley.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33002 "2019-05-28T22:59:59Z")

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[Trump knows best how to build aircraft carriers–but not what “digital” means](https://thehill.com/policy/defense/445713-trump-criticizes-aircraft-carrier-design-as-wrong?amp).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33003 "2019-05-28T23:08:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> “Published 3 hours ago, update 1 hour ago”
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> When Elaine Chao (Mitch McConnell’s wife) was nominated to be Secretary of Transportation, she pledged to divest herself of her shares in Vulcan Materials, a construction company with contracts with the Department of Transportation. She hasn’t.  
> [https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/28/transportation-secy-chao-reportedly-retained-construction-co-stake-she-pledged-to-divest.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/28/transportation-secy-chao-reportedly-retained-construction-co-stake-she-pledged-to-divest.html)

I am shocked that someone within the Trump administration put their ability to make money over any other concerns. SHOCKED!

ETA: :eek:

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33004 "2019-05-28T23:13:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
> >
> > This is dated May 26.
> > 
> > The Rolling Thunder motorcycle ride which goes to Washington every year to raise awareness for veterans’ issues, has announced that they won’t be doing it any more, to concentrate on local events. Individual 1, while in Japan, claimed that the issues have been worked out and the ride will continue next year, and further on. The founder of Rolling Thunder has no idea where that information is coming from.
> > 
> > [Trump Says Rolling Thunder D.C.'s Ride Won't End This Year, Mystifying Event's Founder](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolling-thunder-return-washington-204238373.html)
> 
> 🙂
> 
> I can tell him where it came from. It came from the President’s lower intestine.

Putting these two items together reminds me that “Rolling Thunder European Regularity Tonic” was a regular advertiser on WKRP before the station changed its format. The fact that CFSG is involved is a bonus.

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