# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 166
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3301 "2017-04-13T16:21:51Z")
Enjoy the cake, peoples, the meat might make you sick. “Violations found just days before the state visit of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe included failure to use proper parasite destruction on fish intended to be served raw or undercooked, the Herald reported, quoting the inspection report. Inspectors ordered that the fish be cooked immediately or tossed out. Inside the broken coolers, inspectors found raw meats meant to be stored at 41 degrees that were potentially dangerously warm, including ham at 57 degrees, raw beef at 50 degrees, duck at 50 degrees and chicken at 49 degrees, the newspaper said.” > **[Improperly stored raw meat among violations found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-maralago-idUSKBN17F23A)** > > Undercooled meat, potentially dangerous raw fish and broken coolers were among 13 violations found by restaurant inspectors at Mar-a-Lago, the exclusive Florida resort owned by President Donald Trump, during visits in late January, state officials... ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3302 "2017-04-13T16:34:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > _Anyway, this cake is great > It’s so delicious and moist…_ Thank you. I was waiting for that. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3303 "2017-04-13T16:36:21Z")
BBC detailing several _course corrections_ in the past day or so, including that the President has made NATO great again: > [@](#): > > US President Donald Trump has reversed course in the space of 24 hours on an array of populist positions he adopted during the election campaign. Gosh, that didn’t take hardly any time at all: > **[Trump reverses course in 24 hours from Nato to China to Fed](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39591032)** > > From China to the Federal Reserve, the US president flip-flops, hinting at a more pragmatic style. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3304 "2017-04-13T16:38:47Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > Trump \*sells \*chocolate cake. The cake is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3305 "2017-04-13T16:50:29Z")
LOL, whoops! Ninja’d by **bobot**. Never mind. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3306 "2017-04-13T16:51:02Z")
Can’t we just get rid of all those pesky food safety regulations that keep restaurants from making a profit? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3307 "2017-04-13T17:06:14Z")
[So we just dropped the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/) I hope this isn’t the beginning of a “We have it, we might as well use it” military strategy. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3308 "2017-04-13T17:11:54Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > According to the Miami Herald, Trump might be _poisoning_ all those dignitaries and foreign leaders by making them eat food from the Mar-a-Lago kitchens. Cool! > > [http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/restaurants/article144261894.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/restaurants/article144261894.html) So Trump may have already started biological warfare against China with that beautiful chocolate cake. Putin should definetely throw few missiles to Mar-a-Lago. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3309 "2017-04-13T17:19:06Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Can’t we just get rid of all those pesky food safety regulations that keep restaurants from making a profit? This. People have been dining at Mar-A-Lago for years. Have you ever heard of anyone complain that they got sick dining there? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3310 "2017-04-13T17:36:03Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > This. > People have been dining at Mar-A-Lago for years. Have you ever heard of anyone complain that they got sick dining there? Ukulele Ike’s link on previous page ( Miami Herald ): > [@](#): > > In the past, Trump, who has spent most weekends at the club so far this year and hosted Chinese leader Xi Jinping there last weekend, was often involved personally in the day-to-day operations. > It wasn’t rare to see him check out the kitchen and give directions to the club’s floor personnel. > At the time, Mar-a-Lago passed inspections with flying colors, with one or two violations at most. > > But as Trump jumped into presidential politics, so did the number of health violations. > There were 11 last year compared to just two in 2015. It seems that as a germaphobe Trump indeed is competent. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3311 "2017-04-13T17:55:39Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Ukulele Ike’s link on previous page ( Miami Herald ): > > It seems that as a germaphobe Trump indeed is competent. People get sick every day and most get better. But regulations make the economy sick and what’s the poor employer to do who has to fret over safety of his customers and employees at the cost of getting richer and thus supposedly creating jobs? ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3312 "2017-04-13T18:16:55Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [So we just dropped the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/) > > I hope this isn’t the beginning of a “We have it, we might as well use it” military strategy. I just read that and have a sickly uneasy feeling. I don’t care about ISIS, but things are starting to feel frightening. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3313 "2017-04-13T19:09:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [So we just dropped the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/) > > I hope this isn’t the beginning of a “We have it, we might as well use it” military strategy. Seriously? One bomb is going to change things? If this halfwit is going to lob missiles and bombs every time his poll numbers suck, then three are going to be a lot of bombs going off. Afghanistan is ungovernable. Just pull out. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3314 "2017-04-13T19:19:29Z")
I dunno, I’m as anti-Trump as the next guy, but dropping a giant bomb on some remote mountainous region of Afghanistan to destroy caves/tunnels doesn’t really bother me. What are they supposed to use, grenades? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3315 "2017-04-13T19:36:44Z")
Remember when the right was warning us against Hillary? She’s a hawk! She’ll get us into a war! America first! America first! Then this shit. Fifty-nine Cruise missiles, the Mother of all Bombs (which you fucking well know as well as I he chose as an option because of the name) on top of mistakenly killing eighteen US backed fighters in Syria. Oh yeah. Good thing we didn’t elect Hillary. Fuck, the world probably would have blown up by now. Nice job rubes. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3316 "2017-04-13T19:36:54Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > I dunno, I’m as anti-Trump as the next guy, but dropping a giant bomb on some remote mountainous region of Afghanistan to destroy caves/tunnels doesn’t really bother me. What are they supposed to use, grenades? My concern, and has been since Trump got elected, is that he wants to use all the toys in the arsenal. I don’t think he’s gonna authorize ICBMs, or start a nuclear war with another nuclear power, but given his cavalier ignorance about “the nuclear” during the campaign, and his lack of learning anything since, I have real concerns about him using low yield “tactical” nukes on the battle field. From a pragmatic point of view, there is nothing wrong with tactical nukes, they don’t have all that much fallout (compared to a strategic strike anyway), they aren’t devastating for miles around, but they do hit the target you are aiming for a mite bit harder than a conventional warhead can. From a diplomatic or political point of view (which are two things that trump does not do well) nukes of any kind are a terrible idea. Once you use a nuke of any size on the battlefield, it opens the door for nuclear escalation. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3317 "2017-04-13T19:43:38Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > I dunno, I’m as anti-Trump as the next guy, but dropping a giant bomb on some remote mountainous region of Afghanistan to destroy caves/tunnels doesn’t really bother me. Me neither. What bothers me is[his comments about it](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mother-of-all-bombs-moab-isis-2017-4): “If you look at what’s happened over the last eight weeks and compare that, really, to what’s happened over the last eight years, you’ll see there’s a tremendous difference. Tremendous difference.” How petty and insecure can Trump be? Why does he have to include a smear against Obama or Hillary or both, every time he opens his mouth? And because I’m too lazy to put this in a separate post: the Trump administration has been all over the map about the effect of the Syria strike. They’ve said it destroyed 20 planes, they’ve said it destroyed 20% of Syria’s air force, they’ve said it destroyed 20% of Syria’s operational air force, etc. When are we going to have eight congressional hearings about why they said different things in the first few days of after-attack confusion? I know, apples and oranges. It’s much easier to read the minds of a Libyan crowd than to count the number of planes you’ve hit. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3318 "2017-04-13T20:15:48Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > I dunno, I’m as anti-Trump as the next guy, but dropping a giant bomb on some remote mountainous region of Afghanistan to destroy caves/tunnels doesn’t really bother me. What are they supposed to use, grenades? No, they should have used a bomb that actually works for what they were aiming at: "It was unclear what the GBU-43 strike accomplished, as the bomb is not designed to penetrate hardened targets such a bunkers or cave complexes. " [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-military-drops-22000-pound-bomb-on-islamic-state-forces-in-afghanistan/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-military-drops-22000-pound-bomb-on-islamic-state-forces-in-afghanistan/) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3319 "2017-04-13T20:20:34Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > I dunno, I’m as anti-Trump as the next guy, but dropping a giant bomb on some remote mountainous region of Afghanistan to destroy caves/tunnels doesn’t really bother me. What are they supposed to use, grenades? > [@mistymage](#): > > No, they should have used a bomb that actually works for what they were aiming at: "It was unclear what the GBU-43 strike accomplished, as the bomb is not designed to penetrate hardened targets such a bunkers or cave complexes. " > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-military-drops-22000-pound-bomb-on-islamic-state-forces-in-afghanistan/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-military-drops-22000-pound-bomb-on-islamic-state-forces-in-afghanistan/) I repeat: > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > … you fucking well know as well as I he chose [it] as an option because of the name … ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3320 "2017-04-13T20:35:53Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I repeat: Or just because it’s the biggest and baddest bomb in our arsenal. So what if it is entirely ineffective in the way it was deployed, they got to drop their biggest toy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=165) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=167)