# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1660
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33185 "2019-06-02T19:55:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I listened to the audio. Little Donnie Fail-Fail clearly said, ‘What can I say? I didn’t know that she was nasty.’ His sheep will listen to their Messiah’s words, in his own voice, and conclude he never said them. Hmmm, well, that actually does describe quite a number of self described “christians” as well. “‘Love my neighbor as myself’, what fool came up with that nonsense?” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33186 "2019-06-02T20:12:45Z")
The House Majority Whip [thinks impeachment, or an impeachment inquiry, will happen.](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1135198202435497984) > [@](#): > > Tapper: “It sounds like you think that the President will be impeached, or at least proceedings will begin in the House at some point, but just not right now?” > > Rep. James Clyburn: “Yes, that’s exactly what I feel.” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33187 "2019-06-02T20:19:17Z")
A Republican group called “Republicans for the Rule of Law” is [hand-delivering special counsel Robert Mueller’s report](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/446140-republican-group-to-hand-deliver-mueller-report-to-every-gop-lawmaker), with sections highlighted, to every lawmaker in its party. > [@](#): > > “As Republicans and conservatives, we consider an uncompromising commitment to the rule of law in the best interests of both the Republican Party and the United States,” the group said in a letter to lawmakers. They also released a video with three GOP-appointed federal prosecutors claiming Trump would have been indicted if he were not president. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33188 "2019-06-02T20:29:35Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > A Republican group called “Republicans for the Rule of Law” is [hand-delivering special counsel Robert Mueller’s report](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/446140-republican-group-to-hand-deliver-mueller-report-to-every-gop-lawmaker), with sections highlighted, to every lawmaker in its party. > > They also released a video with three GOP-appointed federal prosecutors claiming Trump would have been indicted if he were not president. I heard about this group yesterday. They have the potential to become a game changer in this nightmare. I wondered if/when any principled Republicans working in the legal field were ever going to stand up for the rule of law. I guess they’ve finally shown up. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33189 "2019-06-02T20:36:41Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I wondered if/when any principled Republicans working in the legal field were ever going to stand up for the rule of law. I guess they’ve finally shown up. Hopefully, it will, over the coming months, become crystal-clear to everyone which Republicans have an “uncompromising commitment to the rule of law”, and which don’t. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33190 "2019-06-02T21:19:51Z")
Republicans…for the rule of law? Oh shit, the party leaders ain’t gonna like that even a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33191 "2019-06-02T21:42:26Z")
The Republican leadership likes rule of law. They just want to decide moment-to-moment what the law is. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33192 "2019-06-02T22:16:11Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The Republican leadership likes rule of law. They just want to decide moment-to-moment what the law is. They love the rule of law. It’s the rule they smack you across the knuckles with, until you understand that they determine what the ruttin’ law is. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33193 "2019-06-02T23:10:13Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Related to this: > > [Help Wanted: Trump administration riddled with vacancies](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/help-wanted-trump-administration-riddled-vacancies-n983036) > _The president has yet to nominate people for nearly 140 top-level positions, which experts say is hampering his long-term goals._ Anything that hampers Trumps long-term goals is A-OK in my book. Not seeing a downside. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33194 "2019-06-02T23:40:45Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Mick “Shithead” Mulvaney: “This is all perfectly fine, perfectly normal.” > > [Mick Mulvaney: 'Not Unreasonable' To Ask Navy To Move John McCain Warship | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mick-mulvaney-trump-john-mccain_n_5cf3dd08e4b0a1997b6bf82b) > [@](#): > > “An advance team is hundreds of people,” Mulvaney told host Chuck Todd. “The fact that some 23- or 24-year-old person on the advance team went to that site and said, ‘Oh my goodness, there’s the John McCain. We all know how the president feels about the former senator. Maybe that’s not the best backdrop. Could somebody look into moving it?’ That’s not an unreasonable thing to ask.” A twenty-something aide doesn’t have to run a dumb idea past a supervisor? Then there’s the whole matter of prioritizing “hurt feelings” over acting like you have the slightest inkling what being Commander-in-Chief entails. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33195 "2019-06-02T23:40:51Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Anything that hampers Trumps long-term goals is A-OK in my book. Not seeing a downside. I’m assuming one of his long term goals is staying out of jail, so… yeah. Anything that hampers that is fine with me. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33196 "2019-06-02T23:45:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 says he never called Meghan Markle “nasty”. The video clearly shows him calling her nasty. > [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48491602](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48491602) He uses “nasty” as a shortcut for “is mean to me” so often that he’s not aware he says it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33197 "2019-06-02T23:55:01Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > A twenty-something aide doesn’t have to run a dumb idea past a supervisor? > > Then there’s the whole matter of prioritizing “hurt feelings” over acting like you have the slightest inkling what being Commander-in-Chief entails. It’s 25th Amendment material. They can’t trust this unstable President to stay calm when he sees an actual US naval vessel, and/or insignia of that vessel on sailors’ uniforms. That’s not normal. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33198 "2019-06-03T00:10:49Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > He uses “nasty” as a shortcut for “is mean to me” so often that he’s not aware he says it. He always uses it to describe women, never men. You never hear him say “Nasty Joe Biden” or “Nasty Bernie Sanders”. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33199 "2019-06-03T00:12:05Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I used to give you the benefit of the doubt, but even you can’t believe the President decides whether the economy rises or falls. Did you think Obama was awesome when the economy was recovering? > > You’re not even trying that Fighting Ignorance stuff, are you? Why would you give a stranger on the Internet the benefit of the doubt? And yes, I thought the improving economy under Obama was awesome. > [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > It’s not Trump’s economy, stupid. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33200 "2019-06-03T01:10:26Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He always uses it to describe women, never men. You never hear him say “Nasty Joe Biden” or “Nasty Bernie Sanders”. Typically black women, at that. It’s very much a throwback to the 80s or 90s. You’d think with his regular Twitter habit, he could be bothered to learn the modern racist/misogynist dog whistles, but I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33201 "2019-06-03T01:16:24Z")
Today’s news ranged from petty disrespect to global-order-threatening. On the one hand, Trump made a rare appearance in a church today, having come straight from the golf course. He still had on his golf attire, complete with ill-fitting khakis and golf spikes. He wore his golf spikes into a church. > **[Trump Visits Church On Franklin Graham’s ‘Pray For Donald Trump Day’](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-church_n_5cf463aae4b0e346ce8032ee/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&__twitter_impression=true)** > > Trump stopped at a Northern Virginia church on the way back to the White House after another golf outing without bothering to change. On the other hand, Trump has been considering tariffs against Australia. Australia. Because apparently we don’t need allies in Oceania. > **[Trump Administration Considered Tariffs on Australia (Published 2019)](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/business/trump-australia-tariffs.html#click=https://t.co/woDorTFhzF)** > > The White House shelved the plan amid fierce opposition from military and State Department officials, who argue that tariffs would antagonize a critical ally. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33202 "2019-06-03T01:25:51Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s 25th Amendment material. > > They can’t trust this unstable President to stay calm when he sees an actual US naval vessel, and/or insignia of that vessel on sailors’ uniforms. > > That’s not normal. He knows what happened to the strawberries, though, you bet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33203 "2019-06-03T01:27:58Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Today’s news ranged from petty disrespect to global-order-threatening. > > On the one hand, Trump made a rare appearance in a church today, having come straight from the golf course. He still had on his golf attire, complete with ill-fitting khakis and golf spikes. He wore his golf spikes into a church. > > [Trump Visits Church On Franklin Graham’s ‘Pray For Donald Trump Day’ With Hat Hair, Golf Shoes | HuffPost](https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5cf463aae4b0e346ce8032ee/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&__twitter_impression=true) > > On the other hand, Trump has been considering tariffs against Australia. Australia. Because apparently we don’t need allies in Oceania. > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/business/trump-australia-tariffs.html#click=https://t.co/woDorTFhzF](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/business/trump-australia-tariffs.html#click=https://t.co/woDorTFhzF) > [@](#): > > And his hair, which is always carefully coiffed, appeared stuck to his head, as if pressed there by the golf hat he held in one hand. [stunned] He took off his hat! [/stunned] ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33204 "2019-06-03T01:30:45Z")
I’m confused. Haven’t we always been at war with Oceana? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1659) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1661)