# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1664
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33265 "2019-06-03T21:00:27Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > In another bit of foreign policy stable geniusosity (that should be a word if it isn’t), [Trump folds on ‘maximum pressure’ against Iran, offers to meet with no preconditions](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/trump-pompeo-iran-negotiations-pressure.html). > > Possibly someone pointed out to him that Bolton was trying to get him into a war. For all his faults, I don’t think Trump is personally a war-monger. … and the Iranians [press their advantage](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran/iran-calls-u-s-sanctions-economic-war-says-no-talks-until-they-are-lifted-idUSKCN1T42GB): (Reuters) > [@](#): > > Iran called U.S. sanctions “economic war” on Monday, and said there could be no talks with the United States until sanctions are lifted, a day after Washington suggested it could hold talks without pre-conditions if Iran changed its behavior. > > “#EconomicTerrorism against Iran targets innocent civilians. Like this little boy, whose heartbroken mother can’t get him prosthetic legs as he grows. They’re sanctioned,” Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted on Monday, with a video clip of a woman saying the prosthetic leg her son needs is sanctioned. > > Reuters could not verify the authenticity of the video. The Great Negotiator. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33266 "2019-06-03T22:17:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Maybe it’s not the best idea that a cabinet secretary, who can only be removed by a vote in the senate, be married to the guy running the senate. Trump’s experience with marriage in general is “NO COLLUSION !”, so you have to keep that context in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33267 "2019-06-03T22:30:27Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I think this is for real, but honestly who the hell knows anymore? It seems the Buckingham Palace band a > played Emperor Palpatine’s theme when Trump appeared. > > [https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1135628156818415617?s=19](https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1135628156818415617?s=19) > [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Alas, it’s fake. Hat tip to **Folacin**. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21678526&postcount=6347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21678526&postcount=6347) In reality they’d be more likely to play the Bozo the Clown theme. …apparently Trump’s motorcade rolled through nearly-empty London streets. There were more police on duty than people interested in seeing the Idiot go by. The photos in this thread are telling: > It’s another side-by-side comparison opportunity, Obama versus Trump, a la the Inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33268 "2019-06-03T23:11:15Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > In reality they’d be more likely to play the Bozo the Clown theme. > > …apparently Trump’s motorcade rolled through nearly-empty London streets. There were more police on duty than people interested in seeing the Idiot go by. The photos in this thread are telling: > > [https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1135556208239267841](https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1135556208239267841) > > It’s another side-by-side comparison opportunity, Obama versus Trump, a la the Inauguration. Those pics are pretty funny. Also the comments of the British cop. 🙂 How is thump going to spin this? _“The crowds that turned out to greet me in the English Isles/U of K (or whatever) were 100 times larger than when Obummer came! MAGA!”_ ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33269 "2019-06-03T23:49:22Z")
I can’t find the link now but earlier today, a protest sign in the UK became my favorite. > [@A British Protest Sign](#): > > “All in all you’re just another prick with no wall” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33270 "2019-06-04T00:11:41Z")
I heard rumors of a nice hat that says **M** ake **E** ngland **G** reat **A** gain **T** rump **W** elcome **A** ny **T** ime ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33271 "2019-06-04T00:17:30Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > In reality they’d be more likely to play the Bozo the Clown theme. Being this is in Great Britain, maybe the Benny Hill theme would work, too. > [@jasg](#): > > I can’t find the link now but earlier today, a protest sign in the UK became my favorite. [A pic here](https://me.me/i/all-in-all-youre-just-another-prick-with-no-wall-42b0a7dc57b641f7b65c6bfa7b0af94e). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33272 "2019-06-04T00:36:41Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I heard rumors of a nice hat that says **M** ake **E** ngland **G** reat **A** gain **T** rump **W** elcome **A** ny **T** ime Stealing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33273 "2019-06-04T01:10:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He owns a “good suit”? A good suit? No. He owns the greatest suit. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33274 "2019-06-04T01:14:03Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Eh, promote it a bit, and Trump will believe it happened. We’ll get that war with England yet. Or Trump will propose we build a wall along the border between America and England. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33275 "2019-06-04T02:42:25Z")
The House [will vote next week](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/house-dems-set-barr-contempt-vote-on-mueller-report-for-next-week-1352442) to hold Attorney General William Barr and former White House counsel Don McGahn in contempt of Congress for defying congressional subpoenas. Barr has failed to comply with a subpoena for special counsel Robert Mueller’s fully unredacted report and underlying evidence; McGahn balked at a subpoena to testify before the House Judiciary Committee. They are [also moving](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/house-dems-to-hold-barr-ross-in-contempt-over-census-question-1352387) to hold Barr (again) and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena seeking information about efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33276 "2019-06-04T03:21:13Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The House [will vote next week](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/house-dems-set-barr-contempt-vote-on-mueller-report-for-next-week-1352442) to hold Attorney General William Barr and former White House counsel Don McGahn in contempt of Congress for defying congressional subpoenas. Barr has failed to comply with a subpoena for special counsel Robert Mueller’s fully unredacted report and underlying evidence; McGahn balked at a subpoena to testify before the House Judiciary Committee. > > They are [also moving](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/house-dems-to-hold-barr-ross-in-contempt-over-census-question-1352387) to hold Barr (again) and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena seeking information about efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. YES!!! DO IT!!! Let these fuckers be on the wrong side of history, especially chickenshit McGahn ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33277 "2019-06-04T04:17:39Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I can’t find the link now but earlier today, a protest sign in the UK became my favorite. I saw a sign outside a London cafe where they were offering free fish guts to throw at him. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33278 "2019-06-04T12:08:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m almost afraid to ask. Did Donnie give the Queen a present? Wait–let me guess: a framed, autographed picture of himself, amirite? > > Seriously, did he give her a prezzie? He gave QEII a Tiffany brooch, and Prince Philip a personalised Air Force One flight jacket and a first edition of James Doolittle’s autobiography. Pretty decent, to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33279 "2019-06-04T12:38:07Z")
Was it one Tiffany made in grade school? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33280 "2019-06-04T12:43:31Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > He gave QEII a Tiffany brooch, and Prince Philip a personalised Air Force One flight jacket and a first edition of James Doolittle’s autobiography. Pretty decent, to be fair. Wow. Those are good prezzies. Congrats to whoever came up with those. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33281 "2019-06-04T13:25:02Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > He gave QEII a Tiffany brooch Sort of coals to Newcastle, isn’t it? But to be fair, what DO you give a woman who actually has been a billionaire forever? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33282 "2019-06-04T13:37:56Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Sort of coals to Newcastle, isn’t it? But to be fair, what DO you give a woman who actually has been a billionaire forever? You realize it’s not about the monetary value of the gift, right? You were just being funny. Hehe. Louis Comfort Tiffany was a renowned American designer and artist and the brooch was a very appropriate gift. More appropriate than Donnie was capable of coming up with on his own. Coincidence with the name of thump’s daughter-- maybe. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33283 "2019-06-04T13:40:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You realize it’s not about the monetary value of the gift, right? You were just being funny. Hehe. Louis Comfort Tiffany was a renowned American designer and artist and the brooch was a very appropriate gift. More appropriate than Donnie was capable of coming up with on his own. Coincidence with the name of thump’s daughter-- maybe. “When did she get her own store?” ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33284 "2019-06-04T15:24:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Wow. Those are good prezzies. Congrats to whoever came up with those. Whereas her gift to him of a book - Churchill’s _The Second World War_, albeit an abridged edition - was surely her just trolling him. I did like this analysis not of the gifts but of the items from the Royal Collection she brought out to show him. > **[What art did the Queen show Donald Trump?](https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2019/06/03/what-art-did-the-queen-show-donald-trump)** > > We take a look at the art that Her Majesty dug out of the Royal Collection for the US president > [@](#): > > The Royal Collection has some of the world’s greatest Old Master paintings, ceramics, furniture, gold and silverware, jewellery and objets d’art, among other things. In view of this fact, it seems that the Queen has deliberately pitched this presentation at a rather low, people-pleasing level: a few prints, minor manuscripts, photographs and a statuette. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1663) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1665)